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Drinking & Driving - Is it time for ZERO TOLERANCE?

I think all this confusion over what is over and under the limit for driving is too sketchy. Instead of banning someone over the limit for a year, just take away the licence for GOOD. No return. NO drinking , even a sniff of it, should be tolerated.

When someone gets a 12 month ban, its not over when they get their licence back. They'll struggle to get insurance and any job involving driving.

A new law is needed. Zero Tolerance. Drink & Drive - Lose your licence for life. That'll put a stop to it.
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I think if the deterrent was "drink & drive loose your licence for life" people would not risk getting behind the wheel after drinking. I am struggling to chose a best answer, so putting it to the vote.

thanks all.


    




WelshLad
Then same should apply to:
* Speeding
* On the mobile
etc


Fordman
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I think that you are being a little overboard with it. A person should not drink and drive, I agree. However, a person may need to drive to get to work and support his/her family. Because a person makes a mistake, you can't really punish him for life. There are a lot of murderers out on the street. People with serious crimes walking and driving the streets.

I think that the one year suspension is about right. If there is an accident and someone loses their life due to drunk driving, then there are additional penalities that are being applied to them. The alcohol blood content, has been lowered in many states over the last few years, so there are more charges making it tougher on the offenders.

In fact, neighbor was caught twice in a year with DUI, he was given a year in jail for that. So it was pretty harsh. He has finished his "vacation" and he no longer drinks and drives. If he is going to party, he will call a cab, or get a hotel room and spend the night. But at least he can still drive and earn a living and support his family.

good luck to you.


Doctor John
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NO 80% of all accidents are caused by the sober B*st*rds!


Marky
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What about speeding?

Speeding kills more people than drink driving. As does driving tired.

Are you going to ban all these people for life too?


snoopy
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You are confusing apples and oranges.

If you think the confusion of what is over and under the limit is "too sketchy" then the logical solution would be to make THAT line "zero tolerance" (i.e. no alcohol in body when driving.)

That has absolutely nothing to do with what the punishment should or should not be. But since you bring it up, you're complaining that it is difficult after losing one's license to get insurance or a job involving driving. You suggest that a SOLUTION to that is to take away the license forever. How in the world would that solve the problem of getting a job? Doesn't that make it worse?

If you're going to make an argument for something, be coherent.


Mr Abba
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Yes i think it is. Drinking and driving is very serious because when you are drunk you dont know what the heck you are doing.


harleyhater
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how about stop selling beer at the gas station

allow alcohol sales on sunday

put ted kennedy in jail


gooneress
i run a pub and it makes me sick that so many ppl think they r capable after drinkin so much i have zero tolerance in my pub we have atake the keys n call a cab service, we pay the 1st 3 pounds of the fare 2 stop them driving x


j4mbo
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errrr no


James M
Yes. If you were not allowed to drink any alcohol when you drive the law would be clearer, and there would be less mistakes.


Joey Ray
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Nothing is going to stop it. People are stupid and don't know when they need to stop drinking and when to not drive. Everyone thinks they are superman and feel other people should be responsible for their actions.


focus
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Although your suggestion sounds good on paper. you have to think what would happen in practise. Quite a number of banned for a year drivers just drive anyway and most of them don't get caught. If you banned someone for life they would most certainly continue driving, with no insurance etc. Now what would you do about that problem. Personally I think it is OK as it is but the police should not need an excuse to stop and breath test a driver, as they do now. It should be the same as in Spain-- set up a road block at random and breath test everyone on that road.. I was stopped at 7.00am one Sunday morning (I had not had a drink at all on the previous night) so it does make you aware of the rules much more.


Niall S
yes!


UCANTCME
Whether you’re drinking under age or driving under the influence—or both—you are risking the loss of your freedom, your self-respect, your job, maybe even your life or someone else’s.


MY IDEA WOULD BE JUST LIKE THEY DO FOR DISABLED VETS OR DISABLED PEOPLE BUT WITH A TWIST...

ON THEIR LICENSE PLATES IT SHOULD START OUT WITH (DD) AND SOME NUMBERS, LIKE DD-2367.

THIS WAY EVERYONE WOULD KNOW THAT FIRST THEY ARE A CONVICTED DRUNK DRIVER AND SECOND TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT PERSON.


Dew
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Even if they get there License taken away they can still get in a car and drive,Yes it is illegal but they do not care ,all they Know is they have a way to get more Booze.


Citizen DeCat
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You make a good point, but it would not stop some people drinking and driving.

This is because those who commit this crime know that there is little probability of them getting caught.

Another solution is for car manufacturers to start introducing breathalisers in cars. If it detects alcohol, the engine doesn't start. See link below for details.


Scott H
One problem is there is no way to ensure someone who has lost their driving privilege will not drive. Usually by the time they're found out, it's too late because they have caused an accident.


fuzzydice
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Yes


hε ςαιd..ƒorεvεr♥
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I love that idea! So many innocent people are dying everyday because of stupid drunkin people driving on the roads, and celebrities driving when their drunk don't get in like any trouble! Just 'normal' people! It's just not fair. I basically think that alcohol should be banned in general, just like drugs. But that will never happen...You have a good idea, try speaking to officials about that! You may help the world! :))


AckAck
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Yes i agree

I drive as part of my job,and i also ride a motorbike for commuting and for pure fun.....if im doing either i WILL NOT have any alcohol for at least 24 hours before....i know that even a tiny amount can effect you slightly.

Greater enforcement is needed and more importantly,if you get caught again........you should be facing a custodial sentence.

I would also add to this about Drugs....test and prosecute for them as well.

There is absolutely no defence for a driver to drink/drug drive.


mr_scotsguy
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The human body produces alcohol throughout life 24/7. It’s called endogenous ethanol production and the volume of alcohol produced depends to some degree on what foods have been eaten. On average, it appears that people can produce about one ounce of absolute or pure alcohol each day.However, the law doesn’t distinguish between alcohol produced in the body and that which is consumed.

Unfortunately, so-called alcohol breath testing machines only estimate BAC, which can only be measured by testing the blood itself. Breath, perspiration and urine can only be tested to estimate the amount of alcohol in the bloodstream.

Research indicates that a large proportion of people tested with a Breathalyzer or similar breath machine will receive a reading higher than their actual BAC. This means that many innocent drivers are falsely convicted of DWI/DUI.

But there is good news. You can easily avoid both alcohol-impaired driving and unfair DWI/DUI convictions by abstaining, drinking in moderation, or either being or using a designated driver (DD) who consumes no alcohol.


rocktober_mulholland
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yes your are totally right. i agree with you fully. my dad has a drinking prob. and doesnt have his licence. i get so tired of him drinking. he still drinks but not behind the wheel. i think your plan might work. drinking is so stupid any way. who ever invented it?


Winnie
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I agree 100%


fatdawgs_room
you can pass all the laws you want,people will still do what they want to do


Lokiâ„¢
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Yeah sure and you'll 'never' drink and drive


markaubrey
dont know if id go as far as loose license forever.but you should not drink anything at all if you are going to drive.


Psych0Bug
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Coffee is thee number one cause of all accident's.
Think we should ban that too?
Sure, no one wants to admit they were sipping their morning pick me up, just before running over a few kids.
It's a big conspiracy, think how people would react if you tried to ban them from drinking it on their way to work.


Lozenge
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yep totally agree. The limit should be ziltch.


Happy Murcia
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Yes i agree, have been saying this for long while....





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