Do adoption agencies lie for noble reasons?
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Do adoption agencies lie for noble reasons?
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Do adoption agencies lie to all parties involved in the adoption triad for the sake maintaining order in society or are there motives as insidious and greed based as some suggest?
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Sunny
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They are as noble as a car dealership.
Well, actually worse since they broker a flesh trade instead of metal. Yeah, I think they could best be compared to pimps--using women to get money by selling children. Does it get any lower than taking a mother away from an infant?
It's a moral crime against mothers, children and Nature. |
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Susan
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how exactly do you propose they are maintaining order in society? some sort of eugenical response to unwed mothers - get all their babies away from them? ha no, maybe christian agencies can pretend to that claim, but agencies lie to make money, that is it. believe me , there is no social conscience involved. |
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gypsywinter
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Adoption agencies.....Noble? NFW!
The latter part of your question is spot on....adoption agencies are motivated by power, profit, corruption, greed and bold-faced lies. |
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R.E.
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Greed
I'm speaking from experience. When I was pregnant with my son, I looked into adoption. It was all hunky dorey, telling me what they thought I wanted to hear, etc. Until I changed my mind. Which is when the harassing phone calls from the agency began. The worker from the agency whom I had been dealing with even stopped over at my house at 10am three days after my son was born. When she discovered we were sleeping she left a threatening note that she intended to contact CPS. Evidently, it was her opinion that it is child neglect or abuse to nap while your newborn naps. Thankfully, my son's paternal grandmother, who had experience in social work, contacted the woman's boss and I finally heard the last of her. Someone else mentioned how alone they want you to feel. Been there. My son's father was pressuring me to choose adoption. Ultimately, the reasons I did not go through with it were A.) I was 23, there was no reason I couldn't raise my child, even though the agency wanted me to think I couldn't and B.) The pushiness and untrustworthy behavior of the agency staff, and PAP's turned me off completely. Who wants to feel like they are being tricked into something as huge as signing over rights to a child? These people seem to forget that birth parents still have brains and can see through dishonesty, just like everyone else. After my interaction with the worker when my son was a newborn it just reinforced I had made the right decision. My son was a paycheck to her. When she didn't get it she was irate. |
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Raven
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I have NEVER found a noble reason to lie. Greed is a good guess though... the world revolves around money. $30,000-$60,000 for every newborn adopted out is (to them at least) reason enough. |
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Blah blah blahhh
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Are you kidding me? They wanna make money and will do whatever it takes to make it. |
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minimouse68
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There are no altruistic motives in newborn adoption......the PAP's want a newborn and are willing to pay for it. The adoption agency is there to rake in the profit. Its part of the reason that adoption agencies dont exist in Australia.......baby trafficking really is illegal here.
Edit: Im curious as to why you think that me being raised by my first family could have disrupted the order of society.........? Wow, I didnt know that an infant had that much power...... |
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Allanas
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How is stealing a baby noble?
Because that's what they're doing. They are lying to a woman, making her feel isolated, and scared, then taking her baby.
Tell me.
Would you call it noble if the mother was a married, 35 year old college graduate that owned her house?
No. You'd call it kidnapping.
Why is it OK to lie to a young, poor, uneducated mother?
Lying to adoptive parents about the baby's past is just like lying to parents of terminally ill child.
It's just as wrong to lie to a child about their past. Whether it's adoption or something else. It's wrong. Nothing noble. |
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Vanessa
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Absolute and utter GREED. These people don't care about the lives they destroy with their lies and manipulation. |
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Carol c
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I think the proof is in the pudding - look at all the dissatisfied "customers" they have who are finally going public - and all the corruption, manipulative, cohersive tactics used to entice women out of their babies and the major misrepresentation about the exchange of accurate health and cultural information to me is pretty obvious that their motives are as you suggest - insidious and greed based.
How often do you see agency representatives going public with mea culpas finally admitting that they participated in unethical practices? Rarely, if ever. Reubon Pannor and Annette Baran in their book "The Adoption Triangle" are among the few who acknowledged what really happens. Here's a link to the first of a video series of interest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlOJ-_mal0 |
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Randy B
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Your use of absolutes such as "all parties" automatically makes the answer to your question "no". Its impossible for them to lie to all parties all of the time. |
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Marnie B
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While there are many corrupt adoption agencies that prey on potential adoptive parents & take money from them, there are also just as many honest, ethical agencies who truly care about all parties in the triad. And while I'm sure there are desperate couples who will seemingly do anything for a baby, there are also lying, scamming birth mothers who take advantage of couples who want to adopt. Stop making generalizations. |
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De
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What makes you think they lie? As an adoptive parent, I met with the agency and I met with the birth family and I still have contact with the birth family through the agency. I am aware of the drug history of birth parents, and medical history. I know that their are half siblings. I paid for the legal fees of adoption.
There may be agencies that are not good but don't lump them all in to the same group. I dealt with a non profit and they are in it for the welfare of the children and the birth family as well as the adoptive family |
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Dread Head momma 2/4
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you need to step out of your little bubble... as do so many others on this site... and accept that teh american way of doing things is NOT what teh rest of the world does...
yup, allowing children to come pre-paid will corrupt people and society... but that's the american way |
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