Do you believe in "Baby Scoop Era" or "EMS" or was it made up?

PhilM

Some people don't believe the Holocaust happened either.

Not Adopted

Read:

Buterbaugh, K. "Not by Choice," Eclectica, August 2001.

Buterbaugh, K. "Setting the Record Straight", Moxie Magazine, April 2001.

Fessler, A. (2006). The Girls Who Went Away; The Hidden History of Women Who Surrendered Children for Adoption in the Decades Before Roe v. Wade. New York: Penguin Press. ISBN: 1-59420-094-7

Kunzel, R. (1995). Fallen Women, Problem Girls: Unmarried Mothers and the Professionalization of Social Work, 1890-1945 (Yale Historical Publications Series) (Paperback). Ann Arbor, MA: Yale University Press (August 30, 1995) ISBN: 0-30006-509-4

Mandell, B. (2007). "Adoption." New Politics, 11(2), Winter 2007, Whole No. 42.

Petrie, A. (1998). Gone to an Aunt's: Remembering Canada's Homes for Unwed Mothers. Toronto: * McLelland and Stewart. ISBN: 0-7710-6971-5

Moor, M. (2007). Silent Violence: Australia's White Stolen Children. A thesis submitted in fulfilment of the requirement for the Doctorate of Philosophy in Arts, Media and Culture at Griffith University, Nathan, Qld. http://www4.gu.edu.au:8080/adt-root/uploads/approved/adt-QGU20070111.172012/public/02Whole.pdf

O'Shaughnassy, T. (1994). Adoption, Social Work, and Social Theory. Brookfield: Ashgate Publishing. ISBN: 1-85628-883-8

Shawyer, J. (1979). Death by Adoption. Cicada Press. ISBN: 0-90859-902-1

Solinger, R. (2000). Wake Up Little Susie: Single Pregnancy and Race Before Roe v. Wade. New York: Routledge. ISBN: 0-41592-676-9

Solinger, R. (2001). Beggars And Choosers: How The Politics Of Choice Shapes Adoption, Abortion And Welfare In The U.S. (Hill and Wang))

Laurel J

As far as I know I was not physically ripped out of anyone's arms, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I believe the women who say it did happen to them because they have no reason to lie to me, a perfect stranger.

However, my first mother's "choice" was between giving me up and being disowned and known as the town wh*re for giving birth out of wedlock. She didn't really "choose" to go across state lines and live in an unwed mother's home to hide her shame either. It's simply what was done back then. The "choice" was a loaded one.

Your confidence in the US as a nation that does the right thing is touching...and incredibly naive. Kent State happened in 1970; do you believe in that?

Linny G

It ABSOLUTELY happened. Yes, some were voluntary. But there were a lot of dirty mind games, too.

Here are a few links. Im sure you will not feel they are reputable, and if you don't, you're like some a parents I know who never want to know the truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_scoop_era

http://www.babyscoopera.com/

http://www.adoptingback.com/infant_adoption.html

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~adoption/topics/birthparents.htm

http://www.adoption-articles.com/human_right_adoption.htm

http://www.cyf.vic.gov.au/adoption-permanent-care/more-resources/resource-kit

tish

you know, there some who deny the holocaust, the horrors of the enslavement period of africans in american and the mass slaughter of the native people too.

it's easier to deny atrocities because it goes against the belief we have that all people intrinsically wish to do no harm to each other.

it helps us sleep at night.

Heather B

Yes. It is well documented and Australia has even acknowledged and apologized.

Perhaps google Georgia Tann for examples of some of the practices that went on

Sofiakat

It happened.
Where are you getting your facts from?
I would love to know who your other avatars are.

opedial

yes I do believe it.

Here in Canada, we had somethign called the 60's scoop, that actually was from 1960-1982, another attempt by the Canadian Governmnent to assimilate First Nations people. Many of these children were adopted out after a brief stint in foster care, almost all were closed adoptions. Some were even adopted overseas!

Yes these events are real. Don't assume all the history that exists is what you have read in school. There is an entire HERSTORY that exists, and it is now being told.

Independ"ant"

It existed and not just in the US.

http://www.magdalenelaundries.com/news/28-10-97.htm

You don't have to buy anything. Stay in your ignorance if your comfortable with it. There will be ignorant people that will claim the Holocaust was embellished or staged. There will be ignorant people that won't acknowledge that beating your wife to near death was legal until the 70's and laws changed.
Reality is a little hard for some people to grasp especially if they were the one's benefiting off of anothers misfortune.

My grandmother volunteered for the Salvation Army for over 60 years and would tell us some of the b/s that went on over the years and the way they used to treat young pregnant vulnerable girls. I'm glad to know that she didn't participate in that and would direct the girls to temporary shelters that assisted them. She's pro natural families.
I lived in one of the few states that actually had gov't sponsored shelters w/o religious influence during that time that tried to help pregnant teens and single parents without support systems.

Mei-Ling

www.adoptioncrossroads.org/

Go. Read. Learn.

Especially under the Exiled Mothers category.

Anha S

Yes, I truly believe it happened. Human beings have a nasty history of deciding for others in their "best interests".

Someone already mentioned the Residential schools, I had coworkers who were in the residential schools in Canada. It marked them for life, and their parents sure as heck didn't give them up willingly. But I suppose as with anything else there are people who will ignore something, even in the face of heaps of proof.

sunny

Yeah, and the Holocaust didn't happen either.

America is Disneyland, nothing bad has ever happened here in the land of milk and honey. Wake the &*#@ up.

Read the Girls Who Went Away by Ann Fessler.

Annabelle

I was going to say what Phil said. Are you just trying to make people mad?

Lillie

Don't want to hear it from the first mothers?

Fine. Take it from me, an adoptee victim. 1973, my mother wasn't given a choice either.

grapesgum

Yes, it happened. Hello, it still happens. Read the Girls Who Went Away.

Rowan

go look it up on Google. it did happen.

Are you trying to upset people??

Freckle Face

Ummmm yeah.

Of course, I believe in it. The same way i believe the holocaust happened, we landed on the moon, and slavery really happened too.

please read the book "Girls who went away".

Sly

As some other posters have responded, this occurred in various places around the world, including Australia. Recently, Dian Welfare, the woman who spearheaded the movement to obtain a Parliamentary Inquiry was honored as an Unsung Hero in Aus. Di passed away earlier this year, at 57 years old. This link is to a professional video that honors her. This explains it very well.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/myfavouriteaustralian/wellfare.htm

Another woman in Australia who is instrumental in achieving the Inquiry is Lily Arthur, a dynamo of a woman. She has a couple of videos on Youtube that tell the story well, also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkxP1iEWN7Q&feature=related

The situation was very much the same in the United States as it was in Australia, and in Canada, and in the UK (Ireland is where the Magdalene Laundries were)..

The BSE/EMS is NOT a myth. It was a dreadful time in history when women predated on other women.

Carol c

It happened and it's well documented. All kinds of manipulative tactics were used to make single mothers believe they had no other option but to surrender their child.

The EMS or BSE is a term typically used to cover the time frame at the end of World War II through the early 70's.

May I respectfully ask if you have a trust issue or two?

Joy M

I can only believe what people tell me, I wasn't there and it didn't happen to me, unless you count the me being the babe.

I won't write about what happened to my mom as it is too personal and exploitive.

I read a book that helped me understand not just that situation, but lots others, it is called,

"The General Theory of Love"

you should check it out, I think it would help you a lot.

Jenny

http://www.originsnsw.com/ it not only happend in the U.S.A.

SJM

Yes, it happened. I was one of those children. Believe it or not, I first learned that my mother wanted to keep me from the adoption agency. Apparently, twenty years ago, they didn't think much of admitting they had used coercion. They told me my mother hid her pregnancy until she was 7months along and that she had received no prenatal care before she was taken to the maternity home. While she resided at the home, she refused to consider surrendering me, and she never did sign the papers. I met her a year or two after learning this. She never mentioned a word of it. She did, however, tell me that she was not allowed to see me at birth because the hospital staff thought that it would only make the adoption harder for her to accept.

Yes, the stories are true. Children really were taken from delivery rooms and adopted out against the will of their mothers.

Indian-vision

I used to wonder about it too when i came to this section. But then why not ? In India and some countries it happens in the worse way. We have honor killing prevalent here. Meaning your own parents or family member would rather murder you than loose face in the community. Honor killing is obviously illegal and shocking But in many muslim countries its acceptable and the Police look the other way.

In America or West it must have been the milder version of what we have here still.

As for those telling this user making people mad. I read worst ones yesterday.I felt pissed too. I didn't even sign in to answer some dumb *** questions. Big deal. Valid doubt and question.

ETA- Oh ya- Thumbs down - your question on adoption= baby buying and infertile people should not be buying babies wasn't pissing off to many people ?So you think !

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