If the baby's father never gave up his parental rights then how can the adoptive parents have the baby?

SJM

Like the guy who is still legally the father but has to pay child support to the paps who won custody?

That's what happens when the rule of law is replaced with psychological mumbo jumbo. It's called the psychological parent model. It assumes that a child's first bond is with it's first primary caregiver after birth, and that bond becomes more important in the eyes of the judge than actual parenthood.

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~adoption/archive/FreudBBIC.htm

ETA: I don't think it's right, either.

Purple: It's not double standard at all. Abortion is a reproductive choice that involves a woman's body. Adoption is a child placement issue that takes place after reproduction is complete and the child has exited the woman's body.

Hunnie Bunnie loves chocolate

If parents adopt a child, they can't ask for child support from a biological parent.

In some cases a biological father doesn't even know he fathered a child, and the biological mother can say "unknown" as far as he is concerned.

If the biological father finds out after the adoption, DNA would have to be done, and the whole thing would be a messy court battle.

Edit) That's unbelievable /wrong considering adoptive parents have to show that they are financially stable in order to adopt in the first place.

Sarah

I would believe it depends on the state's / country's laws.
For Australia, TYPICALLY, the natural father would try to be contacted about the impending adoption of their child. I believe that they have a time frame for them to reply. If they can't be contacted, or they never contact back, then their rights are automatically relinquished.
Also, if the father refuses to give up his parental rights AND won't let the mother adopt the child out, the mother can fight him if she can prove that he doesn't even care about the child, or does nothing to help support the child. However, if the father chooses to raise the child, then the mother can relinquish her rights and it'll go to the father / the father can prove that the mother is unfit and he is etc.

Sly

In most states unless a man states that he is the father, or the mother names him and he is DNA tested, it is illegal to put his name on the Birth Certificate. In Texas, I know, they strongly encourage men to step up and register their children, and while it is increasing slowly, it isn't universal. I worked in the County Clerk's office and we attended classes on how to encourage them to do so and would take them step by step thru the process. We didn't have a lot of takers.

In the past, the men had been the ones who wrote the rules, and did the enforcing. The men wanted to make sure that they didn't get stuck acknowledging a child that wasn't their own. They were really concerned about their seed!

Serenity71

In my state in (Aust) If a father has NO involvement during the time AFTER a baby is born then it can be taken to court and his right are taken away by the judge due to abandonment. After that he has no say in it.

This can also happen in if a baby is left a church etc by their mother and after extensive searching she never comes forward to claim her baby. (Usually about 6 months.) The rights are then terminated and the baby is placed with a suitable couple for adoption. (Not everyone is approved to be place with a child through abandonment, we were though.)

Social services always try and bring the father into the decision making time if its possible. This is because of the family preservation approach. (My children's birth dad was involved and decided it was for the best, even when he never knew until after the her birth, he still came into it when social services contacted him. ) We have a good relationship with him, and I respect him for not running away from any responsibility when it came to it. He did have a say in it and I'm glad he did.

We learn all of this later on, since potential adoptive parents aren't part of that process here. (Not comparing all cases, everyone is different.)

Some people get things relating to adoption and family court mixed up. No father is ordered to pay child Support to an adoptive parent, that's just ridiculous since their rights are relinquished so is their responsibility when it comes to financial support. However in some cases in fostering where a;; rights might not be relinquished it could be a different story. The laws vary so much in states and countries its mind boggling.

Sophie

Mabe the father is "unknown."

Daisey Duck

It could be that the father was found unfit to raise the child and since he won't sign papers to terminate his parental rights they allow the child to be adopted and allow him visitation therefore he has to pay child support.

purple_sakura_fairy

This isn't really and answer to your question. But, I'm wondering why anti-adoption people think that the Bio dad has a say in the adoption, but doesn't have a say when it comes to abortion. Double standard much?

Edit/ Why the Thumbs down? The truth hurt too much?

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