International adoption, bad for America in general. Need sources to support this and have altered the theory.?

Freckle Face

Hi Alix,
I like this argument better. The two strongest cases i think are how international adoptions affect future domestic adoptions and why take one child for thousands of dollars rather than spending thousands of dollars helping several children in that country.

I would look at gov records on visas into our country to see how many adoptions occur. Also look at state by state foster care systems to average how many total children are in foster care in the USA. Sorry i don't have more info.

Not sure on the population increases. Infertility treatments might have more of an affect on populations with women having like 6 kids at a time. Also there seems to be an increase of couples dealing with infertility so my guess would be that it equals out. Let us know what you find out. Also many people buy stuff outside of America. So i don't know how strong of an argument adoption has affecting our economy.

I wish you the best of luck although i don't agree with you.

jm1970

I don't think you are right at all...exactly how does international adoption hurt the American economy...trust me, international adoption agencies are making a lot of money in this country.

The children come over and we all know how Americans love their toys and things for kids...more money spent.

How does the currency go out, but not in...people with kids spend a ton of money in this country and not just at Disneyland....pediatricians, braces, schools, clothes....your idea is unfounded.

I think America's image in the world has a lot more to do with George W. Bush and Iraq that Mr. and Mrs. infertile American who want a baby.

You're right, you're entitled to be incorrect!

Doodlestuff

The problem is that there is a lot more against your stance than for it. The 120,000 adoptions annually are a spit in the bucket in the economy where more than 4 million children are born annually. Just giving money to those countries doesn't help a child without a home because the child still doesn't have a home. None of that money will go to the orphanages anyway. For example, the only way that children of one orphanage get any decent clothing is because a former member of the village flies back annually with all the clothing we bought at garage sales that she can possibly pack according to airline regulations. She doesn't even take her own clothing (wears the same outfit for the full 3 weeks she is there) to maximize the clothing we have found for the kids.

Most of the money spent in international adoption is to the agency for the home studies, legal issues, visas and such. It does not actually go into the participating country's economy.

Well, let's just take that part about "currency goes out but it doesn't come back in."

I assume you are talking about the expenses involved in International Adoption?

Well, let's see....I spent about $20,000 in fees each time I adopted. However, the money didn't "go out and not come back in". Only 4 to 5 thousand dollars was spent internationally. The rest of it (between 15 and 16 thousand dollars) was spent on the U.S. side - fees for official documents here in the U.S., Homestudy costs, payments to our U.S. agency for their services, and - BY FAR THE BULK OF THE MONEY - airfare paid to United Airlines!!!

Yes, a U.S. air carrier got most of the money we spent when adopting each of our daughters! It was definitely the lion's share!

So before you criticize, check your facts!

And yes, I guess you have a perfect right to your opinion. But we also have a right to point out when we think you are wrong.

Mason's Mama

I'm not trying to get you upset, I just wanted to let you know that many people go with international adoptions because it's less likely that the mother will change her mind and want the baby back when she's in a different country. Nothing could be more heartbreaking than thinking you're finally going to have a child and then getting that child and falling in love with it and then have someone come and take it away.

But as far as bad experiences and the way America gets viewed by other countries during international adoptions, look at Madonna's adoption situation with that little boy from Africa. The father is saying he never knew it was going to happen and all the drama that's been going on since then.

Tam

You have got to be joking! Did you not read about how our domestic adoption went terribly wrong? As an adoptive parent, I have heard far more horror stories about adoption in this country than any other. That takes care of your first point.

As for the population increase in this country, we are a country of immigrants. That is the very nature of the United States of America. Maybe illegal immigration control would be a much better way of handling that point. If you are allowed to have as many children as you want then I should be allowed to have or adopt as many as I want and from wherever I want. Besides, I have put a lot of money into our economy by buying things for my daughter, paying for her health care and her education. Your point doesn't hold water with me. Sorry.

We (my husband and I) did not take advantage of a "poor" country by adopting one of their "forgotten" and "unwanted" children. You have no idea what my daughter went through in Eastern Europe before we adopted her. She has and will suffer long term effects from what occurred there. My heart breaks for those children who will never know the love of a family. What about the children who will go hungry or not be tucked into bed tonight? What about those children who don't get basic health care or vaccinations? We did NOT take advantage of that country. They failed to take care of their own and we stepped in and offered a child a home, love and a bright future. Please do not forget that. Our adoption agency has been around for decades. They were one of the first into my daughter's birth country. Through our agency, that country received an abudance of financial help. Over the years, the country was no better off in spite of the money they received. So, adoption is not the only money these countries are receiving. Therefore, many children have the potential of being helped. Most countries have made strides in social reform. Unfortunately, my daughter's birth country did not. Our agency regrettably stopped placing children from there a few years ago.

I wish you would understand that when you write a paper, such as yours, you have the potential of hurting a lot of children who deserve loving homes. If you change just one person's mind, about adopting internationally, you have cost a chlld a family. That is for your consience.

Again, nothing personal against you. I have strong feelings about this topic and just couldn't keep my mouth shut.

tim b

First i am an a adoptee,. Second I am Native American (Choctaw). Third you are a fool. Nation of Immigrants. Illegal immigrants I might add. My mother once told me that one of the happiest days of her life was when she held me in her arms for the first time. (not my biological mother) We are not talking about economy. We are talking about a bond between Mother/Father and there child.

There is a trend in this country concerning open adoption, HORRIBLE wrong. The person that changes your diaper every day, goes to those god aw full peewee tee ball games when you mostly sat on the bench. The one that cried when you left for the Army. That is a Mother.

How can you give economics into a situation like that. I found my biological mother and she was a total *****. If I was raised by her, I would be far less a person than I am now.

Love=money ya you are a fool

twinsister1111

Adoption, whether in this country or not, is a good thing for everybody.

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