What Can Justify These Salaries?

MamaKate

Dear BLW_KAM,

I suppose they justify it by telling themselves they are making dreams come true, but really, there is no excuse.

I have always kind of wondered how much these folks make. I knew it was a lot, but $387,683 turns my stomach. That is obscene.

Especially when you think of the number of people who are pressured into or "choose" not to parent due to financial difficulties.

Greed. It's disgusting - especially when it comes at such a price to children and their families. Those people are living off of blood money. I hope they choke on it.

IMO, if these agencies are "nonprofit" or not-for profit" in the true sense, rather than just on paper (because I doubt that if it were really examined that this is at all legal) then I am a monkey's Uncle.

Thanks for posting this.

ETA: I wanted to add that I feel this way about ANY person who works for a charitable organization and makes beaucoup bucks. It is unconcionable to benefit off of CHARITY.

It may be "legal" to pay these people these vulgar amounts but in my opinion, any person who holds such a position and
ACCEPTS this kind of salary makes me wonder if they are truly concerned with the organizations they are representing and whether or not they should even hold that position with that set of values. (Oh, and I don't give a hoot where they live - there is nowhere on the planet where the cost of living is so high that it makes $387,683 a REASONABLE compensation for doing NON-PROFIT/CHARITABLE work.

My questioning the "legality" of the distribution of these non"profits". There has to be some kind of funky accounting to make it "legal".

This kind of behavior is one of the reasons people hesitate to trust the words "non-profit". This is one of the reasons why people do not donate to worthy causes.

Not Adopted

They use the term "not for profit" as a cover - they need to appear to be a social service, but they are actually in the business of selling babies.

ETA: Randy pointed out that this legal, which is true. But legal does not equal moral or ethical.

People are making large sums of money off the backs of babies and mothers. Blood money is the right term, as MamaKate said!

tish_part deux

gates, et al.. ADMIT that their high incomes are due to selling products.

the difference is that the CEO of some "angel, god's-children..jesus, LDS...praise the lord" adoption agency, prefers to use adoption as some "service to poor wayward birthmothers"; and are too slimy to admit that they sell products too.

their products, are babies.

kateiskate

I would consider those ridiculous salaries for non profit CEOs. I don't care how many employees they manage or what it is their job entails. I work at the corporate HQ of a large company that employs 25,000 employees and has several acquisition companies under our name that are not on our payroll. Our CEO makes about 250,000 a year as CEO of a large FOR profit company. You can't tell me that a non profit ceo should make as much or more than a CEO for a large company that is in business to make a profit. That defies logic.

grapesgum

There is no moral or ethical justification. The salaries are supported by adoptive parents who are ready, willing, and able to pay to for a womb fresh infant.

Yes, I agree completely, it is an odd question from someone who has such a good grasp of the cooperate world.

Laurel J

It's the American way to allow the invisible hand of the free market to operate in social service areas. Corporations are people and people are product. In this case the price is rising because product is getting scarcer. Supply and demand is all there is to it.

Nothing can actually justify it, of course.

Opedial

I can only comment in general to the children's Aid society. These are the agencies officially working on the mandate of Child Welfare, instead of other places where it could be centrally run.

It is not unreasonable for burearcrats at the top level to make six figures.

So if it is just adoption, I am with you it is gross, but if they are also doing foster care, then getting a top person in who can do the job and do it well, you sometimes have to pay for that.

cmc

Where do they live? $100,000 in San Francisco or NYC is a lot different than $100,000 in Columbus Ohio. Just check the differences in cost of living. I think $387,000 is a lot anywhere. Also depending on the size of the organization someone experienced running it deserves to be fairly compensated. I'm not saying the salaries are fine, but I don't have enough info from that list to decide which are and which aren't. Working for a non-profit doesn't mean that you're a volunteer. I think one thing to do is compare these CEO salaries with some for profit organizations of equal size where responsibilities are equal. I suspect most for profit organizations will pay even more.

Independ"ant"

"What Can Justify These Salaries?"

In the business of adoption/child trafficking....Risk.

The Risk that eventually they will get busted and end up in jail.

Look at the agency's that were trafficking kids in and out of Guatemala....some are facing jail time right along with a few doctors and attorneys busted for forging paperwork/bc's and dna tests.

Nurse Autumn Intactivist NFP

They need money to pay for all of the counseling they receive because they feel guilty for coercing a mother that her child would be better off without her.

But seriously, I cant think of anything, I agree with your edit

allchildrenareangels

THEY BITE. I DON'T LIKE ADOPTION AGENCIES. THEY PUSH THE GIRLS TOWARDS ADOPTION WHEN THEY ARE JUST CONSIDERING ADOPTION AND THEY CHARGE ADOPTIVE PARENTS OUT THE BUTT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY SLEEP AT NIGHT. ;0(

Rivkah

The CEO of UNICEF makes $400,000+/year. I don't think it's an unreasonable figure. Their jobs are extremely high-pressure and time-consuming.

By the way, I used to own a small for-profit company in Israel. The company hasn't grown much, but the CEO makes USD$1,200,000/year. CEOs of big for-profit companies make north of $6,000,000.

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Dave Horowitz, president and founder of the David Horowitz Freedom Center: $475,000/year

Bruce R. Lindsey, Chief Executive Officer of the William J. Clinton Foundation: $254,000/year

Edwin J. Feulner Jr., President of the Heritage Foundation: $750,275/year
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Here are the ones that YOU mentioned:

C. Warren Moses, Chief Executive Officer of the Children's Aid Society: $391,307/year - 0.38% of the budget.

(Did you forget to mention that their total revenue is $108,000,000?)

James Huey, President of the Gladney Center: $124,880/year - 3.48% of the total budget. Actually MUCH more ridiculous than the Children's Aid Society.

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