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What makes one think that adoption agencies are JUST out to make money?


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Hugs- what does that say about the nuns, leaving your brother in a friggin' box?


    




Gershom
The fact that there are over 3000 in the US alone.

That after checking their 990 forms(which are public online) some CEO's and Directors make more than 300,000 a year.

Many make over 100,000 a year.

That most use coersive adoptive terminology instead of honest adoption language.

That places like Ethica, even need to exist.

That prices differ on the adoption 'fees' for the different races because they "know" which are in highest demand and which they can make the more "money" off of.

In 1980 something called the Model State Adoption Act was introduced by the US Department of Health, Education and Welfare. This act would have made alot of changes in all of the United States. Amoung the most controversial especially on this board were:

- Confidential sealed records were to be opened retroactively
- Unmarried men would have been given even more power to remove choice from and block women who wanted to place their babies for adoption.
-Against the advice of the American Academy of Pediatrics, among others, the minimum time for babies to have to wait in "limbo" before their mothers could sign adoption papers was to be stretched out to two weeks.

Agencies flipped out. This draft was published in the Federal Registar for comments. There was some opposition from the public. The act is said to have appeared to have been going through anyways, I wasn't alive at this time I only know from reading about it.

The agencies representatives met together and they decided it would "cost too much" and that they didn't want to take all of that on. That would expose certain coverups some didn't want to 'get out.' and they formed the NCFA. Which exists today, and still uses the wrongful adoption language. Still encourages mothers to surrender their children if they're unmarried. Still advocates against the opening of sealed records, infact they're our largest opponent. They are the enemy.

All of this comes from the NCFA's own history book. A couple things about "scandal" i through in because I know them to be true. They all flew to an airport and made the pact there to start their organization to combat reform to protect their invested security of business. It was then called the National Committee for Adoption. Made up of the very people who profit from it. To fight against the changes.

Its always been about pocket books. The adoption industry brings in over 3 BILLION dollars a year. Thats CRAZY.

If adoption agencies were in the "business" NOT to make money, they'd be addressing the rights of the children. The adoptees. Yet clearly, our rights are being walked all over. They would be helping women parent, their services wouldn't be for providing couples with children, yet I bet if you went to 10 random adoption agency sites online they'd be addressed to the adoptive parents and theres maybe a little section about being pregnant and considering with a big heart next to it off to the side somewhere.

If agencies are not in it for the money, why are they in it?


mlassi65
One example: The CEO of the Children's Aid Society was paid over 387,000.00 in 2005. How much money of these agencies actually goes to help those in need?


Lillie
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Go to www.guidestar.org and download the pdf's of the IRS 990 forms for the adoption agencies of your choice.

Just see how much money they are making from the "loving choice."

You can make up your own mind.


LaurieDB
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At $30,000 or so per adoption, hmmm. Covering costs is one thing, but check out the numbers. They all file 990 forms with the IRS, so you can see a business' financial stats.

Adoption agencies are businesses. Just because a business has a non-profit status doesn't mean profit isn't being made. All it means is that they cannot SHOW profit. Someone's making some decent money off of the adoptions. It's not the workers, such as the clerical workers, social workers, etc. But, just like any other business, there are high up administrative people.

In short, businesses are in business to make money. Agencies are not necessary in order to have adoptions occur.

ETA:
Gershom, your answer is fantastic. Thank you, thank you!


TotalRecipeHound
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That's actually pretty easy to figure out. They bully and demean white women with healthy babies, but if you are another race, they find all sorts of help for you. Religiously run adoption agencies are the worst because they are trying to protect the regular funding they get from happy Catholic or Mormons who otherwise wouldn't be parents. Single people don't typically donate much to their church. Parents do.

Not ALL adoption agencies are in it for the money, but the social workers certainly don't want to work themselves out of a job. If they don't produce babies or babies are taken back, they have no work. On the other hand, I know of 2 agencies that are dedicated to finding homes for kids in foster care. They do a pretty decent job.


freedom34_2000
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It's always about the almighty dollar. That's it. It is what drives our economy; it's why people leave their native countries to come here: TO MAKE MONEY, HONEY!


sunny
There is no other reson for ANY business to be in business! What, you think they're doing it out of goodness in their hearts?!

GERSHOM rocks!


hugsandhissyfits
when its there are somany kids that need homes.But people cant afford 50,000 or more to get a child.Its about love and not leaving these kids w no real homes or in foster homes.


blondie
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because alot of families that they place children with really shouldnt be able to adopt and most have too many already and just want more to get more money...but thats some and not all...





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