Who lobbied for privacy and sealed adoption records?

kitta

oh, anyone can "lobby." Anyone can write a letter to a lawmaker.Lobbying is not the same as courtroom testimony.Citizens are not required to take an oath.

Anyone can testify.

I have done it many times, in support for identifying information for both sides. I testify as a reunited mother.

I have seen NCFA come trotting into our legislature, with their little guy who I think is an adoptive parent. They claim to speak for mothers who wish to be "anonymous.'"They should speak for themselves.....only for themselves...the business of adoption.

But it really is the agencies and the adoptive parents who want the records to stay sealed. NCFA is an adoption agencies lobby group.They speak for the business of adoption.

"Privacy" and "anonymity" are two different things. NCFA has deliberately confused them. "Privacy" is a 4th Amendment Right ...and privacy is real, but it is not about hiding from one's child....nor children hiding from parents.

The general birth certificate laws in the states do not hide parents from children nor children from parents.

. There is no right to "anonymity" between parents and children.NCFA is using the term "privacy" incorrectly in order to make it look like mothers who surrendered their babies were granted a right to anonymity. This is not true..and it is cruel.

The relationship between mothers, fathers, and children is a private relationship.

Family relationships, natural family relationships..are considered private, at least at their beginnings.

This private relationship has been violated....by adoption.
Adoption tears families apart, and sealed , fake birth certificates keep them apart.

Privacy is real. The relationship of a mother, father, and child is created privately. And the privacy of mothers, fathers, and children has been violated by NCFA and their assinine lobbying for adoption and fake,sealed records .

NCFA should shut up and stop testifying for "mothers".

SuziQ

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~adoption/topics/confidentiality.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_adoption

There's some info.
It's a complicated issue, but I feel everyone has the right to know their origins.

Sly

Oh My God! Again, they are speaking on our behalf. If you would please send me a link to this agency, I would be more than glad to send them a letter that I am sending to the NCFA on behalf of Senior Mothers and telling them that they no longer have the right to do so. We didn't vote them our representative,s and don't want their 'help' ever again.

No, natural parents did NOT lobby for sealed records, and want no more privacy than that guaranteed to every other citizen of the United States under the Constitution. We don't want to remain anonymous from our children for the most part, but do want to maintain our privacy as citizens.

It is ludicrous to even consider the natural parents having any power to maintain anything regarding the loss of our children. During the EMS, which is the time period when the vast majority of infants were taken for adoption, it was usually illegal to name the father on the BC unless the couple was married. So, the BC's usually only included the name of the mother. Therefore, when they refer to these anonymous 'birthparents' they are referring to women who were powerless at the time of their losses and have none yet. It has been shown that the majority of women want contact with their lost children in study after study. Why would they also choose anonymity? Could it be because agencies (who still want to earn a living separating babies and mothers) are speaking on our behalf?

Yes, if you would please give me the contact information I would be happy to send them the same letter I am sending to the NCFA and the Donaldson Institute. They are fired. We have a poll on the SMAAC website with 100% stating that they don't have the right to do so, and your agency has even less! They are fired. We don't want them to speak for us, about us, with us, or against us. We want them to shut up....forever.

Thanks, and you can send the link to me through my yahoo answers email or I can send you my regular email address if you would prefer. The letter will be going out next week.

MamaKate

Dear Maybe,

I don't even care who these FEW alleged parents who wish to remain anonymous are. Their rights DO NOT OUTWEIGH MINE, YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE'S. This is a DEMOCRACY and MAJORITY RULES. Simple fact is THE MAJORITY OF PARENTS DO NOT WISH TO BE ANONYMOUS.

These FEW parents with issues rights, DO NOT OUTWEIGH THEIR CHILDREN'S RIGHTS or ANYONE ELSE'S CHILDREN'S RIGHTS to know their origins.

These people HAVE the right to NO CONTACT ORDERS. They have the right to hide under a rock if they want. Everyone else deserves the right to open records. It is a HUMAN RIGHT.

Flying Monkey #073177

I have only ever heard of one natural parent who lobbied for sealed records. That person was a natural father in Ontario who lobbied against Bill 183 along with three adoptees. The father was anonymous. They used a lawyer, Clayton Ruby, to lobby against the bill instead of doing it themselves. Michelle Edmunds did a segment on The Adoption Show (aired May 27, 2007) about it. In the show she talks with Wendy Rowney, from COAR (coalition against sealed records), about what the purpose of these 4 people lobbying against the records was. It appears that they did not want to stop all adoptees and natural parents from accessing the information but did want a non-disclosure veto put in the bill, meaning that either the adoptee or natural parent could file a veto stopping the other party('s) from obtaining their identifying information. The four people who were against open records in Ontario did not lobby with their names but used only their initials instead. I'm unsure if these four people actually appeared in court of if their lawyer appeared on their behalf but the court date was near the end of June 2007, I'm unsure about the exact date.

This is the only case I am aware of where a natural parent lobbied against a bill to open records. Again this was ONE natural father who lobbied along side three adoptees. One.

Gershom

can you site the agency? i want to research this more lol.

Off hand i'd say they're full of b.s. There is no "birthparents" group that is lobying for sealed records. But idk cause idk which agency made the claim. I'd bet its a representative from the NCFA tho. They have a way of making false claims like this over...and over again.

gypsywinter

Maybe....

Please provide a link to this 'adoption agency'...so that we mothers who have no problem speaking out and against the NCFA or any org electing to be our 'voice'...can make our opposition known to them.

realmom lese

adoptive parents, of course. who else benefits from this?

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