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Just a Mom
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Okay, I agree that it is sad that the grandparents didn't get to adopt their kids. But I can't believe that the only reason is age. Or maybe it is just the difference in countries.
Those kids have been in foster care for 2 years! They need to be out whatever it takes. And why is going with a gay couple horrible? Are you saying that us gay people should be able to adopt only after every straight couple possible has had their chance? So, if kids are so bad that straight people don't want them, throw them to the gays, huh?
We must deserve eachother...you know, us gays and the worst of the worst foster children.
I am thankful at this moment that they didn't go around "looking" for a straight couple to adopt my kids. The babies would have been grabbed up and the older children would still be with us because no one else would want them. And then my kids wouldn't be growing up with their sibling group of 7. How sad for them that they are stuck with gay parents. |
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MamaKate
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Dear Lady Moon,
This story made me sick when I saw it. I almost posted a question about it myself. My issue with this is not the "gay aspect" of this situation, but rather the fact that these social workers are:
A.) Obviously not interested in what the children think. "Social workers themselves have admitted that the little girl is 'more wary' of men than women. "
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B.) BLACKMAILING the grandparents into agreeing to the adoption ."'You can either accept it, and there's a chance you'll see the children twice a year, or you can take that stance and never see them again.'"
The reasons that the GPs are being given about not being qualified are ridiculous.
Too old?! They are 46 & 59!! There are people still HAVING babies at that age! Are they going to start taking kids from older parents now?! Is there some magic age between 20 something and 30 something that is the only time people are capable of parenting??!?!?!?
And the so-called health issues?!
The man has angina and the woman has diabetes. Both are highly manageable, non-fatal issues that generally have good prognosis and quality of life when properly treated. People parent with far more "interfering" health issues.
Then I have heard people argue that the GPs are responsible for having raised a heroin addict (bio-mom). This really chaps me. I seriously doubt that this mother was doing heroin while in the care of her parents. I would bet that her problem started AFTER she left home and was an adult (WHEN HER PARENTS WERE NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE FOR HER DECISIONS.) I would bet $$$ on that particular issue being from a poor choice of romantic relationships and/or friends. I bet these poor people have already suffered the loss of their daughter to drugs and now they are literally RAILROADED out of their grandchildren.
These are not babies either. These are OLDER (4 & 5) children who are AWARE of what is going on. Where is the consideration for their bond with their grandparents?!
I couldn't care less that the people adopting are gay. What I DO care about is how these children will feel. They have been victimized by their mother and then the system. Just awful. My heart goes out to them.
I also don't understand how so many people can still think that no one in the agencies that deal with families never abuse their power. I am not saying it happens all the time but it DOES happen. Most people in this line of work are good people who do their difficult and emotionally straining jobs with care and do them well, but I cannot ignore that there are some people who do not. JMHO. |
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SJM
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I'm almost the same age as the grandmother, and my daughter is 4. What a bunch of garbage. And if the little girl is not comfortable around men, how can it be in her best interest to have two men as parents? I couldn't care less about the gay issue. Gay people are entitled to their own children. They're not entitled to the children of others. Scream discrimination all you want. This isn't about you. What an awful story. |
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Opedial
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When the hell did 49 become too old to keep your grandchild?>???? WTF?> |
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Rowan
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MamaKat , i totally agree. It just seems theres a total disregard here for the childrens well being and feelings. The grandparents are nowhere near old and it does seem they were blackmailed.
Teresa:I see nothing wrong with gay parents adopting, just so you know. Those that do, go take a long walk off a short pier. |
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Independ"ant"
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AGAIN.....what kind of Pap would fight the natural family on this. If they want children so desperately they should just have some themselves or foster children that need to homes. These children already HAVE a home.
Something is seriously wrong with the court systems.
It sounds like its all about POLITICS instead of the best interest of the children.
I guess according to that judge I will be too old to care for my 7 yr. old when I turn 46. Unbelievable. |
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Nurse Autumn Intactivist NFP
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This is just so sad, ugh, it just makes me wanna cry. The gay thing doesn't bother me, but why would ANYONE want to adopt these kids when they have loving family willing to raise them? |
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Serenity71
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There was no neglect or abuse happening in the grandparents house. so why was social services involved at all once the kids were with them. And if the little girl is hesitant with men then the kids shouldn't have placed them with a male gay couple. If anything the grandparents should have a say in this case where the kids go.
This really had nothing to do with weather a couple was infertile or gay. It was about taking the kids from family who wanted to care for them and placing them in a family that was unsuitable to the kids needs. That could have been a couple who are very fertile- and not suitable to adopt those kids. |
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BLW_KAM
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This makes absolutely no sense to me. Either we're missing something or there was money moving under the table. No other explanation seems plausible.
It's appalling. |
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Heather Leigh
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When I first saw the heading of the article I was thinking they were in their 70's or 80's. They are not that old. Many people are having their own kids at that age. My mother is in her mid 50's and is raising my 7year old niece. My now adopted son was sent to live with his grandparents when we were fostering. They were in their late 70's.
I have nothing against people that are gay adopting, but in this case, when the little girl is wary of men she should not be adopted by two men.
(((Just a Mom))) Great answer!! |
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Indian-vision
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I second everything Serenity said. Whats this got to do with infertile or gay couples. Its a tragedy when the grandparents who wanted to parent did not get that choice and the kids were placed out side the family. But why kick the infertile and gay couples for what social services did wrong? |
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Cam
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That is tragic and wrong. Those grandparents should have been the first choice by social services. Shame on them.
Talk about putting the knife in ....and then twisting it. |
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Siver C
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OHHH I bet there's a lot more to this then an un-respected paper like the DailyMail is reporting. |
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IDK!!
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What is a shame it that, they weren't informed that if they are caring for children who are place outside of their biological home and not yet adopted, that they will qualify for Medicaid making their care possible...... And really they aren't that old. There are people their age with kids their grandkids age, should those kids be removed? This is just sad. |
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Not A Supermum!
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what a horrible story, those poor kids.
And they did say that the little girl is more comfortable with women, they could at least send them to a couple which include a woman in order to help the transition!
So much for priority to blood relatives. |
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Jane S
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sickening. |
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Cindy B
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This is so sad |
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Kimby
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Why does this article make out that the gay couple adopting the children are the ones to blame, when all they're doing is offerring to raise two children?
What about the mother who cares more about her drugs then those poor little kids? Why doesn't she feature in the article?
What about the fact that the system is so flawed - it has to be if they can get away with threatening biological family members!!
If the grandparents wanted to raise the children, they should have been allowed to - at the very most the kids should have been fostered out, not adopted, if Social Services were so worried about their welfare.
Sorry, i'm just so mad at the "gay agenda" slant that was put on that... |
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Ghost Writer Rides Again
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If this couple who is adopting those children had any heart at all, they would allow the adoption to finalize and then turn around and give them to the grandparents.
Once the children are adopted, social services shouldn't be able to interfere and stop it. I would send the kids to the grandparents and then smuggle them out of country.
But that is just me. |
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Cool Hal
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Well in the UK - the government gives the council money for adopting out children. The grandparents needs social workers to visit. Adoption is cheaper.
Slavery alive and kicking in the UK.
I am disgusted by the antics of Edinburgh Council and saddened that the only reason that homophobic piece of sh1t the Daily Mail picks up on the fact is that it is two men and fails to look at the bigger issue of adoption in the UK.
Murderers and Rapist are freed and allowed to get on with their lives but a 26 year old RECOVERING drug user has a life sentance without her children
Mamma Kate agree with you 100% |
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Jackie B
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I don't understand the rationale. Assuming that the woman is 46 and the man is 59, it's very plausible that the children could be their biological children. Even if age is a factor, the overriding factor should be that the kids would be staying with their biological famlies. This should trump a younger couple any day. |
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Hakomar
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It's disgusting. If they can look after a child well enough, they should be able to keep them. I don't really think that article should be mentioning that they are gay all the time though, there is nothing wrong with that. I was adopted when I was 6, and the woman beat me and made me work for her, until her husband came home from work and she acted nice. I luckily had a good enough social worker to get out after a year, but Social Services are still slipping up with everything, and not noticing the obvious, like Baby P for example. |
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Wherever you go, there you are
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That's horrible. Kow can those men live with themselves knowing they too the kids from a loving home? And on what planet is 46 considered to old to care for children. I know women who have giving birth in their forties, they are great moms. And 59 is not ancient either. Whats with the kangaroo courts in Scotland |
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