Agree of Disagree: U.S. Employers are the biggest facilitators of illegal immigration?

Sashie

Our government, and our employers, in that order ... and shame on both of them!

NiÃ±a Boniita

I think you are right

agree, but also politicians in my country (mexico) who do not do enough for improving quality of life of the citizens they rule.

me_worry?

Definately an agreement from me. If the illegals cannot find jobs, they would only be here to rob, maime, and kill others just to get by. The biggest problem is that big business employers are not severly punishment enough for hiring illegals. Basically a slap on the wrist and a couple of dollars fine.

booboo

Absolutely agree !!

TrigueÃ±a

I truly agree, because some Employers do not verify the illegal aliens social security number and they pay them with a
1099-Misc which is non-employee compensation. The Employer gets the deduction,but does not pay Social Security Tax, unemployment tax, Workman's compensation etc. etc. and illegal aliens cant go to the Labor Board and complain, so the Employers save tons of money having therefore a juicy profit.

kingstubborn

Agree.

Except for the Wal-Mart part.

Bonzai Betty

I agree, and I think the same can be said for American computer and software engineers, not to mention call center operators who lose their jobs to outsourcing in India. How dare these corporations take advantage of the buying capability of the American people yet refuse to provide them with the well paying jobs needed to continue to buy their rip off products. They should be forced to sell their product in the countries where they are being made, and watch how fast they go out of business. American companies can still do business in the USA and pay Americans a decent wage, rather than being ultra greedy and wanting more for themselves. The same is true for these "supposed jobs Americans dont want". Americans will apply for jobs that they are informed of, I have yet to see any of these farms post ads in the classifieds! These companies need to be held responsible for being down right anti American.

itzfitzhere

Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

junkmailsucksalot

I agree... That's why I think those who hire illegal immigrants should also be dealt with and properly punished.

Carol R

I agree if there were no jobs, no immigrant would immigrate here.

Debra H

Definelty... not to mention all our government members.. who do you think they all have working for them...

nobodytotalkabout

I agree to a point but ask yourself how many of you are willing to do the jobs that immirents are doing such as the meat packing industry would you stick your hand up a cows neck??

Big Super

Agree. However, I believe that companies are only partly to blame, and that some unknowingly hire undocumented workers. Proof of citizenship is required under the I-9 form from the Department of Labor. That requires one Class A document, or a Class B and Class C document. Class B and C documents are easily reproducible and forged. When an employer sees these documents, and if they are not obvious fakes, then the employer has done the background and verification in good faith. As for those I-9 Forms, those, along with copies of the identification documents, are sent to the Department of Labor.

kysteelgirl

I think our corrupt federal government is the biggest facilitator because they are not enforcing our laws....of course, big business is paying them to look the other way.

jerofjungle

Agree, the the buck begins and ends with that.

Batch D

You nailed it. If we prosecute them, then a domino effect will occur and therefore the costs of the border patrol as well as taking care of them would decrease.
These employers should be hiring American citizens. It may cost more and the price may go up but LONG-TERM COSTS mentioned above would decrease.
Here is something I don't hear a lot. There is a way to hire Americans while making the cost for hiring them equal or lower than the cost of hiring illegals.

As Donald Rumsfeld said in "Rumsfeld's Rules" on the Wall Street Journal, "Watch the growth of middle-level management. Don't automatically fill vacant jobs. Leave some positions unfilled for six to eight months to see what happens. You will find you won't need to fill some of them."

Applying to these employers is that they should consider hiring FEWER Americans (on a minimum wage) than illegals (not on it) for costs to go down. The key is EFFICIENCY. Even better, these employers should use more machinery to lower long-term costs. These machines don't think and whine like we people. In fact, they wouldn't demand for HIGHER wages. Anyway, I hope that helps.

aka white knight

AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!

mark j

I disagree. I believe the employers are just as much to blame as the benefits the illegals exploit as well. I also believe the American people had their eyes shut for too long and before we know it, the illegals are exploiting everything.

functionary01

Disagree. The Mexican government is the biggest facilitator of illegal immigration. Mexico's people wouldn't be leaving if their country was in better shape. Unfortunately, the fact that they can leave so readily is what prevents it from getting into better shape.

tylergrl

Totally agree!!!

DAR

Disagree. You can't break a law to get here and have other people pay to educate your children while ruining their children's schools, give your employer fake ID and say it's all the employer's fault.

It may ALSO be the employer's fault, but it is absolutely the illegal who broke the law to get here and is using services in this country's fault.

sprcpt

I agree.
Providing an illegal with a job is no different than leaving food out in your kitchen to attract roaches.

Sage B

America became the economic powerhouse, in part, because it allows the concept of supply and demand to work (capitalism.) When migrants are allowed to arrive and provide a service below the cost that the employer would be required to pay to the legal citizens or permitted individuals, it upsets the balance of capitalism, which then disrupts the whole economy from the Federal Reserves control of the monetary supply to the legislature's progressive income tax plan. When exacerbated by the money then being sent overseas, the effect is multiplied: the situation basically becomes a tax on the working class of the US which is sent as welfare to the foreign country (Mexico, here.)

The solutions aren't pretty. Either the laws in America mean something, or they don't. Taxes on the middle class have to increase to cover the loss of revenue to the government. Institutions that provide a public service and that cannot, by law or ethics, avoid that service end up going bankrupt. The workers themselves have no protection. In a capitalistic society, which the corporations espouse for their own benefit, supply is directly related to demand. If they need a service, they must be willing to pay for it, or they SHOULD go out of business.

blogger

I agree somewhat. I still say the illegal mexicans come here for the welfare, WIC, and medicad though.

Sleazy P. Martini

It is all to make profit, if you could make more profit by paying less, I'm sure you would do it too. Maybe we need to enforce the laws, seal all borders, and live in quarantine.

sister_godzilla

Anyone who hires illegals is committing an illegal act.

david42

I agree that folks come here for a job. If there were no jobs, then there would be no incentive for the workers to come here. What is needed, in my view, is an effective guest worker program that allows quick entry for workers tracks them and when the work is over is able to return them to their home nation. It is estimated that 25% of construction workers are undocumented. I suggest that any American can obtain employment. It might be working in a meat packing plant or hauling bricks, but there is plenty of work to be done and our nation does not have enough workers to do the tasks.

ram456456

Why are they illegal its only civil offense to be in America without a work visa, and people hire migrants so they can help them fix their deck, or a contractor cant find a person to do contracting jobs so they hire who they can. Remember its not a crime to be in America illegally its only a civil offense to work without a work-visa. Should be treating are neighbors better in regrads to them coming to America to work, and its easier and more practical to limit immigration from people coming overseas. Big companies are more likely to follow immigration law than a small mom and pop shop, and making it so restirctive with forms to hire people gonna put Americans out of work with some of these stupid work documentation requirements.

Dr. Greenthumb

I disagree.

crct2004

Always picking on the little guy. It is the CEO's and the lobbyists who are crushing America with offshore bank accounts, billion dollar salaries and golden parachutes, but they can't afford health benefits for their workers.

People have been coming to this country since the 16th century without "permission" to make a better life for themselves. Since when do you get to decide ok, that is enough?

I don't like pressing 1 for English anymore than anyone else, If they want to be here they need to learn the language, but it's not them that is the problem.

And as for their character, I have worked along side spanish speaking people, from many different countries including Mexico and I have no idea if they were legal or not, but they worked like slaves and were good people and I have more respect for them than Joe CEO who is raping thousands everyday, from their pockets to their pensions.

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