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Are illegals really taking jobs you would want?

We keep hearing that they are taking jobs from "hard working Americans". I'm just wondering what job you wanted but didn't get because they hired an illegal. The jobs that I want all require a post graduate degree so I have not been faced with this situation and would like to hear from people who have experienced this.

Please, no one tell me you wanted to pick fruit out in California for $2 an hour and were turned down.
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What about the ones working with stolen social security numbers. They are paying into the system and they will never get that money nor does the person whose SS# that was used. And shouldn't the SS people be catching this?


    




Mohammed F
Yes. I used to work in construction making close to $20 an hour. None of the consturction companies will hire me anymore becuase they can hire illegals at less than half that.


PANCHA
Nope,never happened to me.


Lil's Mommy
If Americans wanted those jobs, don't you think that they would have them. We put to much emphasis on how much are we going to get paid, but yet they don't want to do the work. In my experience as a small business owner, I had my nephew work for me that was a bad decision, he kept demanding more money but did not want to put any effort into his work. On the other hand I have 2 guys that are immigrants one is a legal resident and they produce more work in 1 hour than my American crew do in 1 day. Does that not tell you something????


shy_angeleyes01
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Illegals aren't just settling for Fruit picking Jobs anymore. They've taken over the US housing Industry, Warehouse Work, There moving into More and More Job areas and they are STAGNATING wages in those Job fields.


mixmastersback
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i wanted to work at mcdonalds!!


Thomas P
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take mine just bring the money to old dad


xadralix
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If nobody will hire them here in the first palce they will be force to go back to where they came from but since theres greedy people that rather pay alow wage to an illegal than the fair wage toa legal citizen we will never get rid of them . Some people might not like this but theres a lot of people that actually benefit from it. including a lot of us when we buy the tomatoes or lettuces at cheap price. When you stay in a hotel or buy a new house, track it back and some illegal put some work into it.


GTcasper
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Yes, I do think they take jobs from Americans. It happens here where I live in the south east all the time..
Broken wing I think you're exaggerating a bit!!
Most Americans I know are very hard workers. Some people don't give a damn who they hire, all they are interested in is lining their pockets. They don't care about our laws.. The government needs to get serious and make it a felony for all these people that hire undocumented workers.I bet that would stop a lot of this..

They get paid a lot more then $2.00 that's b*** s*** if that's what you think. The min wage in their country equals to about 4.00 an hour..

They aren't just taking the s*** jobs here either. They are getting jobs with the government. Thousands of illegal immigrants were hired by department of forestry, putting some fire chiefs out of their jobs. They get jobs in airports, missile ranges, big companies that make MRE's( meals) for our soldiers.. I know many Americans that would love to have these jobs.. Americans are not being treated right, because of this and if anyone cant see it they are blind.... The middle class and poor Americans are hurt mostly by this.. Its not fair at all ... A lot of things need to be changed and quick...


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how blind can anyone be your country is being taken right out from under your nose and your scratching your head looking at the clouds saying i dont see nothing!..look around you open your eyes and know an INVASION of America when you see one..its plain and simple nothing complicated


baq2calli
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One of the main jobs that are being taken away are construction and roofing jobs. I've seen plenty of black and white Americans on the roof or on construction sites, yet they can't find decent jobs anymore because builders want to exploit cheap Mexicans at $4 an hour under the table. Remember that not everyone graduates high school or goes off to college. There's a certain section of LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS that would like to do those jobs if it weren't for the Mexicans.


Lora L
I think the question isn't why illegals take the job's Americans want but why the companies hireing illegals do it because they can pay them so little and work them so hard. May be Americans would take these same job's if they didn't have to live in deplorable conditions; work long hours on back breaking job's; get paid minimum wage of $5.12 an hour.

The question is why are these big companies getting away with hireing illegals? It would be much easer to control big business than to patrol our borders.


The Captain
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Yeh... took my job from me... i was making 3$ an hour picking fruit... then they came and undersold me X(


hayleylov
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yes they sure do


jpxc99
I think that they do take jobs that others wouldn't do, but if you look at the unemployment in this country....how many jobs could be filled if the gov't would make some of the people who are unemployed take these jobs.

Mostly the issue is taxes, and getting benefits without ever having paid for them.


Sashie
Wanna hear a real life story that I've told before? And which I KNOW is true? A friend of mine has a son, who has worked in call centers for a couple of years ... he applied for a job in another call center that just opened in Texas ... filled in the application form, handed it in personally and was told there and then he wouldn't be given an interview ... he was a bit taken aback, he's white, 21, neat and clean, and with experience .... now guess what? A week after he found out the job had been given to ... guess what?? An illegal ... yep!! There was no requirement for Spanish stated on the application form, and without an interview, the company could never have known whether he could speak Spanish or not anyway .... now what does that tell you???? You think I'm lying? I wish I was ..... :(


Todd Maz
Kris, the jobs that I had when I was a high school were McDonald's, bus-boy, pool maintenance and lawn maintenance and the jobs that I had in college were construction worker and golf course maintenance. That was 15 and 20 years ago but today most of these jobs are being filled by illegals and I am willing to bet that they are not getting paid a 'Fair' wage. I have heard that many American teens would not want these kinds of jobs but I can assure you that I know dozens that do and they are not hired as more often some illegal has the position already. Many of the jobs that illegals have could easily be filled by America's high school and college students. Of course, the employer would have to pay them at least minimum wage...

I think that there are many Americans that would be willing to pick fruit in California or other fruits and vegetables anywhere in the USA for minimum wage. $2 an hour is illegal! Hiring practices and minimum wage need to be enforced in the USA.

Here is another point... Many of the fruit and vegetable growers get the water for their crops for free through out of date water rights. They are also paying low wages to illegal workers and more than likely they are not paying any insurance for those workers either. I have not seen prices for fruits and vegetables going down. Where do you think the profits are going? The profits are going into the pockets of the farmers who are getting more wealthy...


yars232c
picking oranges, fast food, construction


Can you name me any other country that wouldn't laugh if you asked who does the jobs they won't do???

It's a CROC

And sorry, YOUR DAMN RIGHT I WAS TURNED DOWN SO EXCUUUUSSSE MY ENTHUSIAM!!! AND THEY DON'T MAKE $2 AN HOUR THEY GET 10 WITH FREE HOUSING AND BENEFITS!!!


trinitarianwiccan
Yes, they are taking the American's jobs! We don't want to be paid $2 an hour! If they would pay minimum wage we'd be happy to work for them, but they want to hire these immigrants that don't know any better and it sounds like a lot of money to them. It is ridiculous!


lexie
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they aren't taking the job I want... but they are taking the services my tax money goes to pay for... health care, road maintance, sewage maintance, etc...


Hadenough
Yes.
Look on web. Meat cutters, Factories, Stores.
You make it sound like they only do Farming (10%) or McDonald's or lawns or something like that. News Flash-they do all kinds of jobs. One was in government office not to long ago on the news. They are capable of doing anything-just like anyone else. and I posted the other day what farms pay --average $10.00 an hour. You act like they can not do anything better.

The average wage for skilled and unskilled farm workers is about $10 an hour, said Austin Perez, a labor specialist with the federation

Give that a break. And look up things for Goodness Sakes. Ignorant American or what?


roadmaptoamerica
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I used to work in construction, hanging cementboard siding. I made about 18 hr. One day the owner or the company told me and my coworker that he was going to hire illegals and do three times the amout of business. Shortly after that, our work dried up, and he never called us back. I was subcontracted to do the work, had to pay all my own insurances, transportation, provided all my own hand tools, paid for my licensing. In reality, I was only making about fourteen an hour. Had to work in the heat of Florida, started at 8 took lunch from noon til noon thirty, and worked the hot afternoons till about five.
If you don't think Illegals are taking jobs, you need to look around some more.
And if the Illegas are paying taxes, utilizing STOLEN social security numbers, then why should they get any money. THey are criminals. PERIOD, and should be deported TODAY.


sealRborders
OF COURSE they are taking jobs from Americans!!!! ANd,i don't know where YOU are from,but around HERE, they get paid $10.00 an hour, NOT $2 to do farm work!!!!!!

ILLEGALS are in EVERY business,NOT just farmwork!! They are working in ALL the construction companys around here!!! And,these ARE jobs Americans WILL do and NEED!!!! They also work in factorys etc.!!!
And just because YOU are lucky enough to go to college,there are THOUSANDS of Americans who do NOT have that opportunity!!! And it's THESE poor people that NEED those jobs the illegals are STEALING!!!


badjanssen
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no one picks fruit at 2 bucks an hour...they all make about 10 bucks an hour...while their wives and kids sit in the welfare line scamming the gov't out of everything they can get....what are we gonna do when we catch them cheating..??? deport them..?????

it costs us taxpayers approx. 55,000 dollars for every illegal alien every year because of their emergency room visits, welfare fraud, housing, schooling, food stamps, police, jails, etc...

this doesnt take into account the private money lost due to them driving uninsured and unliscenced...or the devastating toll on our society from drug smuggling and the diseases they are carrying across the border....


all of these menial jobs you talk about would be taken by our kids oout of high school..or if they were too menial..some lazy american would innovate a way to mechanize the job and thus increase the output at a lower cost thus savinf time and money for all....thats the american way....


Billy C
I am set in a career, but the image that you draw of someone in a field picking grapes for $2.00 an hour is not the complete story. In my part of the country, contractors hire Ilegals to build homes and other construction projects. Since they pay a low cash salary, they are able to submit a low price bid on jobs that require them. Thus the average American guy that has a crew on legal citizens does not get the work. The same applies to landscapers. They charge a lower price for lawn care with Illegals then a small business with citizens. But the big problem is paying their medical cost, education cost, and entitlements that they get with my our tax dollars.


sweet..dude..sweet..dude
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I am 100% against illegals. If they want to come, then come legally. I am not against them taking our jobs, but I am against how they skip out on paying taxes, getting free pretty much everything. Getting away without having to pay for car insurance, driver license. It's a drain on the economy. They are taking away American jobs that help support our u.s. economy. Think if the 12mil illegals b/c citizens, if you think Social security is bad now, ha, just wait. Unless you have a great job and know how to save up, i'd say you'll be screwed when you get older.


jc ♫
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I totally agree with you. I posted a question yesterday and included a story about how my father came to the US as an illegal immigrant 30 years ago and started out working at a farm picking fruits and vegetables for very little pay (about $75 a week). But he took it cause it was more than he would have made in Mexico. Well I got an answer that stated that my father stole an Americans job.
How? Those jobs are there for anyone to take, who's fault is it an American doesn't want it? I was born and raised in the US and there's no way in hell I'd take a job like that. The job I want requires a degree and experience I highly doubt an illegal immigrant is going to "steal" that job from me.

My father worked hard and worked his way up. He learned English, made himself a citizen, went to college and got a degree to better his life. He's now at the top of his company.


screwedbytheleft
I know it's difficult to comprehend, so let me give you a hand: We have a pretty sizeable low class and poverty class in our nation without the help of adding 20 million of the Mexico's peasant.

These people, as stupid as you may think they are, have done the math. These jobs are illegally paying below the minimum or right at the minimum wage, either of which does not provide a person the ability to support their family. So, should this person go and take this subminimum paying jobs? Or shuld this person just apply for unemployment and government services? Hmmmmm, let me see what they would choose.

So, you see, illegals ARE taking the jobs that American's would do because they are taking them at such low wages that the legal American is better off living off welfare than to take that job.

It's not that hard if you stop trying to make excuses dear.


stupid.liberals
The problem isn't really the jobs that they are taking. The problem is that they are breaking the law and it isn't right. Do you know how many illegals fill our jails? Do you know how many illegals come here with criminal records in their own countries? I bet you would feel different if you or someone you know was criminally effected by these illegals. Plus it isn't fair to the people who are going to arrive in this Country by following the rules.





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