Are the British frightened of the Islam agitators like Amjam Choudry and 'Lord'Ahmed?
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Are the British frightened of the Islam agitators like Amjam Choudry and 'Lord'Ahmed?
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Both these characters political agitators and Ahmed recently threatened social disorder on UK streets if a film about muslims was shown'Fitna',the British banned a dutch MP and fellow european from entering the UK,makes me very angry,how about you?http://sheikyermami.com/2009/01/29/lord-ahmed-update/ Additional Details http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/lord-ahmed-threatens-to-mobilise-10000-so-wilders-visit-off/
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one shot
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Not frightened - just not allowed to object. It's the shape of things to come.
They already have the power to quell all objections and any threat of action being taken by the use of one word - racist.
That is the most powerful word in the English vocabulary today. It's utterance can topple establishments, it can turn powerful men into quivering apologetic heaps, tip the scales of justice and prevent the truth being told.
I remember years ago a man of Asian persuasion telling me that they would eventually be in a position where they effectively ran this country from within. I thought it funny at the time - now I'm not so sure. |
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Nurse M☺lly
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Frightened? NO, angry? YES!
These Islam millitants are not respecting their host country.They trample on the customs, culture and disrespect the citizens of the UK. They are notorious for Rule by Intimidation. How come UK allows it to happen?
The Netherlands has fallen. The land of tulips and windmills is turinning into the land of turbans and mosques. Don't let that happen in the UK. Block them from immigration or UK is next!
Since they wish to turn the world Muslim I say, let them start with China. |
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Suze
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If you examine the behavior of ANY religious fanatics, only ONE glorifies KILLING those who are non-believers.
HOW do the rest of us differentiate between Muslim Extremists and "Normal" practicing Muslims?
~AND~
IF there is a difference, then WHY are the Normal practicing Muslims not taking an ORGANIZED active stance and speaking out against those Muslims who are shaming the rest by their hatred of non-Muslims?
THE RESULT IS:
The so-called peaceful Muslims remain silent and allow the Extremists to do their bidding. |
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Dave C
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Comes to something when a foriegn national is laying the law down here in Britain as to what can be effing shown and what cannot!this fat rodent will,given the chance,cause Brits all kinds of problems.Banning a euro MP because of the crap is obscene!! |
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The Mechanic
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In all my life i have tried to be tolerant to all races and creeds but im afraid with a Parliament with the backbone of a cringing coward we have to take the road of nationalism with all its faults, to clear our country of this scum and clean our streets for British people to live in peace, there seems no other road for a country run by such abject cowards , we have no other choice or we will not survive the future.The day we allow such threats without serios retaliation we can be blackmailed every time we make a desicion and made to give prominence to immigrants , no county in the world would tolerate such a position . |
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Slick like Rick
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As a muslim i would say to you, the public that these idiots that threaten disorder in the name of Islam can not truly be Muslims.
They are merely hooligans no better than the idiots that cause riots at football (soccer) games and have used the word religion to cause havoc and it is these idiots that give certain Athiests (not all) the feul to say "this is why religion is bad"
a good muslim/christian/jew wouldn't create havoc/disorder in the name of their religion they would fight with words in self defence and protect what is infact a beautiful religion. |
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Kenny
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Not frightened of them just sick to death of them. |
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James M
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We are told that we live in a democracy, but we clearly do not. If you haven't seen his film, Fitna, then I strongly recommend that you do before it vanishes from the internet. I was full of optimism when I read that it was to be shown at the House of Lords but then, of course, 'Lord' Ahmed threatened to mobilise a mob of 10,000 muslims if it was shown. Needless to say, they backed down and another victory for muslims was proudly declared. That sort of behaviour should never be allowed. The film shows angry mobs protesting and calling for people to be beheaded, so why not show it and allow them to protest afterwards, thereby proving that what is contained in the film is correct? I think everyone should see the film and allow it to open their eyes. They cannot dispute what they see with their very own eyes. |
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True Patriot
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I'm not frightened of them, but the Government seem to be for some reason. I would like to know that reason, because I don't think it is in order to be just and fair. On the face of it, they seem to be caving in to threats of violence. It may be they are hoping the public will get so fed up that we call for more legislation to control the muslim demonstrators, and in so doing, we are imposing further constraints on our own right to protest.
I have learned with this government that the thing they want is not the first thing they say, or even the second, but usually the compromise in between. |
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ShinAzure
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ROFL, that actually made me laugh, BRITAIN isnt 'Scared' of those people, tbh they just want to kill them!
and because of people like that were suffereing and many of the population are too, because of delayed flights and delayed transport. seriously why cnt people like that just die....
i think however hard it is for some countrys if your from a different country you should stay in your country! stop immagrating and doing everyones jobs! seriously then it wouldnt be a problem. |
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taxed till i die,
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It is just a matter of time before those two are kicked out. |
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Willow
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The British people fear no one, 1914 and 1939 showed just that.
It is our government who are traitorous cowards.
Is what you say correct, that a "peer" of the realm threatened social unrest unless he got his own way? And that the rest of the house of Lords backed down?
He should have been arrested on the spot and tried for treason, just exactly how much power do such people have?
It is time the people of Britain challenged their rulers on just where their loyalties lie. |
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Sarah W
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easy option,force feed them with good quilaty pork chops.bet thay really enjoy ....... |
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Timaximus
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Im not scared of anyone!... well maybe my mum.. but dont tell her ;) |
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They should show the film to everyone so they can see what is actually going on with the "Religion of Peace"! Freedom of speech is essential. I am not frightened of Satan I have Jesus in my life. |
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Audrey C
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I don't like agitators of any kind! They stand in the way of progress! |
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Sillah
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Let me start by saying that the British are not afraid of any one or any group, they just do what is right when it comes do dealing with issues such as religion.
I don't think this should make any one angry because the issue of religion is very sensitive and can explode very easy.
It is true that the rule of law state freedom of speech but let remember that where you freedom end another man own start from there, it is however wrong that Mr. Ahmed threaten social disorder.
Those kind of films might cause problem in society, the intend of those films is just different in my view, I find those kind of films provocative; it is like making a movie of the holocaust of the nazi and praising the nazi in that movie for the crime. Great Britain can banned any one from entry in to the country if you try to get involve with unacceptable business regardless of who you are or where you're from so it is not limited to the dutch MP. |
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203
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No I'm not scared of them, more so considering I've never even heard of them.
So are they big nasty, really important, scarey people then? |
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Back to the drawing board
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No, Lord Ahmed was probably being a bit optimistic anyway if he thought he could summon up 10,000 Muslims, but the intention was to block parliament, not to cause 'civil disorder' on the streets. Although this sounds a bit extreme I think the UK government is right to consider its attitude to the PVV, this is the Dutch far-right extremist anti-immigration party and some of its MPs have been suspected in the Netherlands of incitement to racial hatred. They are probably a bit like the BNP, so BNP supporters read no further, but non-supporters may want to consider whether Geert Wilders should be welcome here, only UKIP seems to think so. The film Fitna is apparently a biased piece of anti-Islamic propaganda which doesn't differentiate between Islam and Islamism and seeks to stir up bad feeling against and mistrust of all Muslims, and quotes the Quarn out of context.
It is like our debate in the UK about whether the BNP should be allowed 'free speech' when they notably want to deny freedoms and rights to others, presumably their critics and all non-whites.
A group of young Muslim film-makers in the Netherlands have recently made a counter-documentary called Loos Alarm, (false alarm), it would be interesting to know if Geert Wilders and his supporters would advocate the showing of this film internationally as well, in the interests of freedom of speech. |
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Mr Sceptic
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Frightened? No.
Anjem Choudary is a self important, hate-filled lunatic, who speaks for nobody but himself and a few pathetic hangers-on. He does not represent ordinary Muslims, most of whom find him as loathesome and embarrassing as white English people find Nick Griffin.
I hope the security services are keeping their eye on him, so they can lock him up when he crosses the line, but the British people have no more to fear from him, than from any other self-righteous, loud-mouthed hate-driven bigot.
There is no place in our country for people spreading their poison on the grounds of religion or race - I'm sure you'd agree with that.
I just wonder what good it might do exaggerating the threat from such deluded individuals? Surely no one would want to generate unnecessary fear? Would they, Mr Griffin? |
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