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At what point does this cease to be justice and becomes revenge?

Alleged Nazi Demjanjuk cleared for deportation

This was asked in law and ethics first but received no response.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090501/ap_on_re_us/us_demjanjuk


    




Fletcher
LOL, can you imagine if this guy was a Mexican who did heinous crimes, the Mexicans would be marching for his amnesty ; )


edthespartan
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Demjanjuk could have turned himself in and had his day in court any time he wanted in the past 60 years. He made the choice not to confront his accusers and to try to conceal his actions during the war. Now he's old and ill...he made the choices that place him in his current situation.

Sounds like we're still solidly on the "justice" end of the scale here.


Muerto Mujados
This is a joke right?


Willow
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Apologies, did not open link.
Justice IS revenge, The only difference is that it is done in the name of a few (Judge and Jury) rather than by the masses.
Where the problem now lies, is that the masses have no precedence or influence over the "few".
What the "common man" believes to be justice does not permeate into the brains of academics who have no perception of the life of the "common people".
Hence why white collar theft is allowed to flourish, corrupt politicians can do as they please yet we are fined for placing the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin!!!
I digress, my memory tells me that this particular case has been going on for blooming years.
If there is definitive proof that this individual committed said offences, where is the need for deportation?
Murder is murder in any society in the world, even the most corrupt have some rule of law.
I will submit this and go back and look at your link because I'm not quite sure of your stance on this given the ambiguity of your Q.
Perhaps that is why it received no responses in the first instance.
Have read the link.....what a pile of bull.
Stop arguing, if there was no evidence against him then he would have nothing to defend, end of story.
He has had ample opportunuty over the decades to prove he was elsewhere, doing something else.
As to his family..... I firmly believe that the sins of the Fathers should not be borne by the Sons, however, this family needs to accept the fact that they were not there, they are not credible witnesses as to what happened.
There are many who have given witness as to Demjanjuk's inhumanity, his need for self survival at the expense of his fellow man.
Difficult as it might be for his family, they have to accept this.
Age is no barrier to justice, we are old only in body. It is what our minds and souls do that determines what justice and right is.
Given the evidence, I would have him put down like a rabid dog, given the history I would shoot those who gave him succour the first bullet.
Power corrupts absolutely, those given power are absolutely corript.
Why did this individual evade justice?
The "Nuremburg Trials" were a fiasco, a concoction of European monoliths who highjacked "Nationalism" as the enemy, no longer would pride in your country and culture be accepted. That road led to "Nazism" you now must be multiculturarist/ and diversitty embracing, your culture and history means nothing, for fear you offend the very people that were attracted by it. rofl.
I abhorr what Nazism became, but I can see where it came from, I have a level of understanding with Demjunkuk, unfortunately I do not agree with his methods.


Gus
During his first trial Demjanjuk proved that he wasn't the Nazi guard Ivan the Terrible. Israel was forced to let him go free. Now they want to put him on trial for being a guard at a different camp.

This is a hateful witch hunt. Revenge for letting the holocaust industry make a fool of itself.





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