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Can my wife take our son out of the country without my permission?

Can my wife take our son to mexico without my permission? She threatens me with this if we were to split up. Instead of going to court for custody she says she will just move back to mexico and if i want to see my son I can fly there to visit. I want to go the legal route with this but not sure what to do if she decides to just take off. Things are really rocky bad between us right now and its headed for a divorce. How can I protect my son from being taken out of this country. He and I are legal citizens here she is not (yeah, I know i should have been more careful). Anyways my son is the most important thing here. Any advice would be helpfull.


    




n0body
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If your son has a passport, yes, she can take him. If he doesn't, then no, because you would be required to apply in person, together with your wife, and you can simply refuse to do it.
And no, it would not be kidnapping, because she is his mother. If you get divorced, sue her for custody and win, and then she takes him - THAT indeed would be kidnapping.


elisiolloyd
No she cannot, i don't know who on here is saying she can just fly off forever with your son because she is mother.
That would not fly in a court.

Please try and keep it legal as long as you can.
Women think having a vag.ina means they can do whatever the hell they want these days. If it becomes necessary to take drastic measures, make sure to cover your bases.


john doe
it happens everyday


Countess
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If your law is the same as in the U.K then she cannot take him to any country without your permission,and vice- versa.I am assuming that you need a passport to get into Mexico,get in touch with the authorities and see if you can have his passport ceased(if he has one) if she tries to use it.


Daisy
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Report her to INS immediately. She will be deported, but your son who is a legal US citizen will stay with you in the USA.


bobemac
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Retain an attorney, then find them if you don't know where they are. Act quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ART
Yes she can and it happens all the time. Just get in a car and drive away, they don`t check at all out going here in AZ unless they are alerted to something. I go across all the time. Make sure you have the kids passport. You don`t need it to get into Mexico but gives you advantage at the US Embassy and with Mexican authorities. Once a passport is issued it can`t be issued again. Get him one and put it in a safety deposit box along with the birth cert. Besides you`ll need it to make it easier to return to the US. The US border patrol will not let you cross back with a baby without paper work and a lot of questions. A dad alone with a baby in Mexico runs up red flags at the border. A passport is a free pass. Remember The Mexican border is not the only way to get to Mexico. My Mexican sister in law came here across the Canadian border near White Rock WA. Don`t count on an Airlines to guard your kid from kidnapping.
Know how to use Amber Alert and make sure they understand she is headed across the border.. If your kid is 8 or more get him a Verizon Omiga cell phone ( It is programmable for 4 one touch out going numbers only and 911). It has GPS but dont tell him or Mom that it does. If you separate get a court order to prevent her from crossing state lines with the children. This won`t prevent it but puts her in trouble and gives you more legal powers if she does. Pay your spousal support or child support Judges like men who do..You keep your nose clean let her screw up.
Oh yes get DNA lifeprint kit. it provides digital photo, video and DNA id.
You won`t need any of this hopefully but better safe than sorry.
All the cards are in your favor as she is illegal here get a lawyer and get the kid in your custody. Remember she can be the worst person in the world but the Judge will still give her weekends until the divorce is final. Mine got weekends. Then after she abducted one she still got 24 hours every other week. Thats when you sweat bullets. Mine took off with one of them (took him to her house thankfully not across the border) but wouldn`t return him. It took a month of Lawyers talking to lawyers and a judge and a Sheriff, to get him back. This was in Arizona.


Joy
Lisen to me, she is here illigally and her citizenship is no mexico, the child has duo citizenship. yes she can take your son, and that crap about a passport is garbage until Jan,1, 2007 unless they postpone it again, you can go to mexico without a passport until then.

Your best bet is, if you want out of this marriage and you are prepared to raise your son is to leave with him and then file for custody and a divorce. Let her know that if she contests this arrangement and If she shows up in court, you can let them know she is illegal and I will be willing to bet that she does not leave the courthouse.

Remember that she has no rights in this country, you and your son do. What ever you do, do not threaten her with this until you have taken your son to a secure place, because she will surly run back with him and you will never see him again because you have no rights in that country. You also will not be able to allow her unsupervised visits if she has threatened this, because again once she hits the border it is all over for you.


susycal03
yes, first of all she dosnt need a passport to take him out because you can do it with just thair birth certificate it use to be where you had to go to get a certified letter that explained you were agreeing that its ok for her to take your son out of us, but now in days all we ask here in the airport is for the birth certificate.


Journey
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Why wait around for her to take your son away from you.Yes there are ways for her to take your son to Mexico with out your permission.You should pack you and your sons things and leave at once.International child abduction happens all the time.Anyone who tells you this cant happen doesn't know what they are talking about.If you want to keep your son in your life you need to first secretly record her threatening to leave the country with your child and get a good lawyer.Second pack you and your sons bags and go into hiding immediately.Tell your lawyer she is an illegal immigrant.This may seem harsh but the fact is she is willing to hurt you in the ultimate way and not think twice about it.Do you and your son a favor and get away from her if not one day you will walk into your worst nightmare and there wont be anything that you can do.


Kitten,Doc
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get the divorce , she cant kidnap a citizen,call immigration to come and take your "wife' back and show them yours and your sons S.S cards . Any judge will grant you sole custody over abandonment
good luck


Mendi8a
well it seems kinda fair, since she is probably from Mexico that she would want to return there. And since he is her son and she is listed on his birth cert, I do believe they would let her in. Expecially since she is illegal it is not legal for her to stay here. Once in Mexico you can sue her there.


vickie
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She can't take him out of the country. She would have to get him a passport.. and with her being illegal that would be hard.


ANGELa
If you want to go the legal route, take her to court first, before she leaves. The first person to file in children's cases are usually better off. However, know that this won't stop her from leaving and illegally taking him if thats what she really wants to do. You'll have to ask a lawyer if she can take him without your permission, but I think that she can because you two have not been to court yet which means you both could make any decision you want and legally there is nothing the other one can do until you go to court and one of you ends up with custody. Then, that person is the one most likely to get their way. Hurry, before she beats you to it!


proud mom ♥
No. Airlines require written permission from the parent not traveling with the parent. This also needs to be notarized. Don't let her threaten you with this If she does take him, and somehow she gets away with it, crossing at the boarder by car, etc. that is kidnapping and the FBI then gets involved. She becomes a felon!


Jen G
That would be kidnapping.


DAR
If they drive, I don't think they always check, to Mexico. My ex asked for permission for one vacation there, but not for another (Baja California) and was never given any trouble.

Sorry, but there it is. The US is pressuring them to be stricter and the passport rule is to go into effect in January, but until then it is going to depend on if they check.


DMBthatsme
She cannot take your son out of the country without your permisson; otherwise it would be kidnapping. You should speak to a lawyer as SOON as possible.


barbarina
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She would be able to leave the country with your son if he has a passport but entering another country is a different story. Many countries require a notarized letter signed by the other nontraveling parent giving permission for the traveling parent to bring him to that country. Nowadays because of all the problems between parents and kidnappings other countries are becoming stricter with their immigrations laws. Of course, you never know what country she will be traveling to and if they apply this strict policy.


volleyballchick
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It would all depend on the terms of the custody agreement. I think that has to be worked in. I don't think she can just take him without the court's okay - regardless of if she is the primary guardian or not.

Speak to a lawyer just in case. If she can't, I would start making some arrangements. If she gets him over the border, that will be that. . .


Surf n' Snow
the answer to your main question is NO. its illegal.


Kris B
She can't move to a different state without your permission, so I doubt she can move to Mexico. Kidnapping.


machiko_146
Actually, if she is still a citizen there, she can. File for custody and divorce. Get a restraining order. If she ever gets custody or even visitation of your son, you quite possibly will never see him again. Get a good lawyer and get him away from her. Change his school and alert them never to release him to the mother. Best wishes.





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