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Can we afford to live without immigrants?

I think that if we send all the immigrants back then they'll be enough jobs for those on benifits etc.
But I was told that we have to welcome immigrants to our country otherwise if its just us, we wont produce enough money to support our pensions when we're retired through taxation.
What do you think?


    




TeaZe
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Whoever told you that wants a slap. Not only would more jobs be available, but the government would be spending alot less of our taxes is housing them and giving them their benefits.


matzaballboy
we sure can and if we did
everyone would have a job


Leogirl0804
we can't afford to NOT send them back. They are costing the US 68 billion a year.


.
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The resoures would be replenished so would the NHS less greenland taken up for housing,a more stable education for children..But it will never happen we can't turn back time


starlet108
I think 'Can we afford to live with them' ??? They are draining our country - The NHS, Housing Dept's, Prisons, Benefits system - all being drained by them. Lets get rid of them and try it !!!! xxx


hellllooooo
we managed b4 this immigration stuff went crazy so why not again-why cant we be strict like Australia?


barmyberni
Once upon a time we had to work a certain length of time before we were entitled to benefit's, so I believe if we stopped paying the immigrants social benefit's and giving them houses then they would not find our dear country quite so appealing. They should have to support themselves before they are allowed here.


gary244144
send then all home. happy ever after


Andy P.
Hey Sas: in a nutshel...YES!


DAR
The only economic benefits are from legal immigrants, as a class. As a class, illegal immigrants are the ones who are unskilled and uneducated and use more in education funds and other services than they will ever pay in taxes. The legalization question on that front is that, when they are a net economic loss, if they are legalized they will be able to bring in more unskilled and uneducated family, including indigent parents who will take more services, again never making enough to pay enough in taxes to cover their services. People use smoke and mirrors on this. Look at the study and see if it is saying we need 'immigrants' or 'illegal immigrants.' Our legal immigrants are screened specifically to not be those who drain our services and to not be those who commit crimes.

The 4% of the population that are illegal immigrants make up roughly 30% of the convicted criminals in our prisons. That is much higher than the native criminal componant, proportionately. However, our LEGAL immigrants make up a disproportionately SMALL percentage of criminals in our prisons.

That is because those who go through our legal process are those who we believe will be a net benefit to our country. Those who come in illegally are typically those we would not let in legally, at least without a huge wait.

We limit immigration of poor people who cannot pay enough taxes to cover school costs for their children, for a reason. Their better life is at our expense.


LadyMoonlight!!
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Life would be a lot more affordable without immigrants.

There would be enough affordable housing for families (Council houses at £60 per week rather than private rent at £600 per month), more jobs, less stress on the NHS, less crime.

People would have a better standard of life and more money and that would probably encourage people to have more kids because they feel they could afford them and provide for them properly. Money is one of the main reasons people are putting off having kids.

I am sick to death of the pathetic "reasons" why we "need" to be providing jobs and homes for half of Poland while our own people are going without.

The only people who go on and on abouit what "fantastic hard working people " immigrants are are the comfortably off who have no money worries and have not seen first hand the effect large scale immigration is having on the poor of this country. And the greedy bosses who benefit from cheap labour.


kysteelgirl
I think that is what our corrupt government, big business & the media want us to believe...part of their plan to justify amnesty for illegals! The taxation part is a joke - we all know illegal aliens drain from out tax paid social programs rather than add...just read single mother birth rate among hispanic females ages 10-17 are up 60% all other races have dropped -- lots of anchor babies to drain our social programs!


Veritas
Of course we can. Jobs don't just suddenly materialise because you let immigrants in. Why aren't they needed in their own countries? We have 3.5million people on benefits who should be on the unemployment register; even the government admits this. Add to this the huge number of students in universities who shouldn't be there, plus the massive over-manning in the public sector as well as those on the unemployment register. It also puts a huge burden on the public services and causes all sorts of social problems. We will never get people off benefits if you bring in foreigners to do the work. It also drives down wage rates and they won't be prepared to do menial work forever.

Because we have signed up to the EU, we can't stop these immigrants coming in, anyway, left wing governments aren't patriotic. Britain has no borders as far as they are concerned.

The pension problem has got nothing to do with immigration. The government should have set up a fund from contributions made in earlier years instead of spending it as they got it.


arter.m
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What if all countries sent all there immigrants back,? think of all the Brits coming back from all over the World. What chance of there being enough jobs then.


J W
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Immigrants are very important for the economy, and without them we would not be in such a strong position, they generally hard working highly educated and fanstic people. And we can freely move around and live any where and work, so why are we so mean to others comin to our country,,,there are too many people here who don't want to work and people go on about the immigrants taking our jobs, if there our jobs then why are they still available,,,and immigrants are getting them, cause everyone else here are a bunch of lazy b*stards.


jeff k
If only, I say kick the f**king lot of them out, we are short of jobs, short of housing, but no shortage of people on the dole, I actually heard some Asian guy trying to teach his wife (or what ever) how to say housing benefit in English, what the f**k is that all about, send them all packing, and no I am not a nazi, I just want my country back.


martino
Even in times of reduced immigration, the United States has not had full employment.

There are various reasons offered for this. Conservatives say that Democrats create a welfare state atmosphere with handouts that makes a certain percentage of the population dependent on a system that pays you not to work. Liberals say the capitalist system depends for it's smooth functioning on a slice of the populace being unemployed; ergo communism, or something close to it, is the answer if you want a system with 100% employment.

Whichever side you side with, remember: There has always been unemployment in the United States. Always. The recent influx of illegals from south of the US/Mexican border is a handy excuse as to why there is unemployment among citizenry here. --Nothing more.


mnwomen
I dont think legal immigrants are the problem, it is the illegals that drain the system.


Cuddly Lez
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hmmmm that's something to think about.
I believe that we would need more workers to afford those retired baby boomers in 20 years(like Mom & Dad). And if we send them back, There would be more jobs available for those on benefits. I thought maybe if there's a 3rd baby boom from my generation to where we have more kids so they can be the working age, we won't have issues with enough workers. So Mom & Dad can retire without money worries as their grandkids work.


Big Jimi
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It will never happen!!


dermisil
YA IF EVERYONE STOPED WINGING ABOUT THEM AND DID THERE JOB WE WOULDN'T NEED THEM


gogol
Depends - ..... immigrants from the south ??? or

immigrants from the north ??? for me french that's what you are on our estate - Can I afford without you ????


SOMEGUY
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No we cannot. Just ask an American to do their jobs, work, and live in their condition and they will refuse. In order for us Americans to do that kind of work we will demand more money. Increasing the price on everything else and putting a strain on our economy.


Bazil
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without immigrants your workforce would not survive immigrants work hard because they have goals and set out to acheive a goal they did not have the opportunity to pursue in the country they came from where they worked hard for nothing..

people on benifits arent always looking for work a lot of them are stoners bludgers losers and weak mongrels..why do you care about them more than people who are paying taxes to feed your economy?


aqsoaq
i don't think so.
most of teh jobs we don't want to do are done by them.
most of the westren countries were built (developed) by both the people of the countries and by the immigrants.


bluenose
We do need them because of the pension crisis.





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