Do proponents of mass immigration genuinely not understand?

Jigi

I live in the USA not Britain and in my opinion immigrants are great. They come here and they work hard and from my experience cause no trouble.They really care about their new home and are frequently active in bettering the community. Of course, I am speaking primarily of legal immigrants .

Ferrari Babe Â¸.â€¢*Â´`*â™¥ â™¥*Â´`*â€¢.Â¸

Personally I am not an proponent of uncontrolled mass immigration and I do not understand the woolly liberal thinking of those who are. Maybe it's a generational thing since I am fifty and can remember a time when this country was so different. Or maybe years of Political Correctness and Equality propaganda have so affected the thinking of younger generations they can't see the wood from the trees? Whilst I am a BNP supporter (the frequent accusations of racism or Nazi associations don't bother me in the slightest) I think people are becoming more inclined to speak about the obvious negative effects of this Governments disastrous policies, than previously they were. The bigger shame is that the Government isn't listening to the concerns of the indigenous population.

Guardian angel

The economic argument for the presence of immigrants is spurious to say the least.The pro immigration lobby fail to explain exactly how millions of pounds every week,being sent out of the country to support families in eastern Europe is beneficial to the overall economy of Britain.

My Grain

Well said Lady Moonlight,I'm right with you and you are right when you'e saying about people in well paid secure jobs,they're not the ones who have been stung and don't have a clue!

robert c

I agree with the questioner on most points!The question I raise is!!What are the Trade Unions doing about it?Nothing?Why?I suspect that the Trade Union leaders have an 'eye' on becoming Labour MPs and do not want to 'rock the boat' when it comes to selection time!I have suddenly 'cottoned onto why these people are literally fighting to get into @The Crooked House'(The Houses of Parliament)Power, and ;how much can they make out of it with the expenses claims!

Seen it all before

i suspect that those who support it most readily aren't affected in the ways that you point out

if i still lived in a hamsphire village or a cheshire village i would feel differently to the way i feel now that i have moved back to the midlands

twenty years ago birmingham had a huge immigrant poulation but it seems tiny to the reality of today .....the inner cities have now moved far out into the suburbs with many ghettoes developing

there are many schools where almost all the children are english as second language pupils

and birmingham is not the only place this is happening

i suppose it is easy to have a liberal welcome anyone and everyone approach if your children go to private school and you do not need to use the NHS .......

as for being good for the economy .........importing unemployable people to claim benefits for themselves and their wives back home ......how is that a help to the econpmy? i'd say it was a drain .....as is peoviding childcare,education and healthcare for people who have never contributed anything by way of tax or national insurance contributions .....and there are plenty of these in many midlands towns

Maria

did you just ask this question for people to agree with you because that is how it seems!
in britain there are many imigrants which i am sure we are all aware of and a lot of people complain about it including you (the person who asked this question) but have you never stopped and wondered how britain would be without these immigrant. Well let me tell you there would be problems with the bus services, hospitals would be missing about 50% of their workers including (doctors,nurses,cleaner etc) And most importantly there would hardly be any builders anymore
i personally do not understand why british people are so selfish they feel just because they are fortunate enough to be from a well economically developed country that no one else is allowed to live in their country. Imagine that britain was in the bad conditions countries like kenya are in but kenya was the rich country and they complained about the british coming to conquer their country how would you feel because just one day you british people need to look at things from a different angle

LondonGuy

It's important to think about the social and cultural consequences of good economic migration (skilled migrants).

One thing to do would be to encouage skilled migration from countries that have similar cultures to the UK. This way, it minimises the possible change to British culture. Ie, more Americans, Australians, Canadians, South Africans. Less Asian, South Americans, and Africans. Maybe also some Eastern Europeans.

Wealth is also a relevant factor. People who can afford to live a British lifestyle is good. Poverty resulting in 10 people per house is not good.

Razor Jim

They understand but don't care. These are not salt of the earth people. They failed in their home country came here and then promptly sent home for 10 more relatives.

Retired Brits that worked their whole lives now find their meager pension eroded by the government as they switch resources for council house and other trappings for immigrants.
Then ignorant twits call then selfish.

mike UK

Mass immigration is an insult to real British people, it is hated by the real British and is the cause of a new rise in racism.

We should have been asked if we wanted millions of people from usually failed countries to migrate to the UK

A referendum would prove this and it would stop mass immigration in it's tracks.

Mass immigration is a cost to the UK not a benefit. Research by top economists prove this

just_another_user

" Do they simply swallow every line which the government feeds them ? "

Yes... Yes they do...

In my opinion, people in the UK fall in to three categories :

1 ) No work, more benefits!
2 ) Oh god, the tax... Someone make it stop!
3 ) I'm rich! Fwa-fwa-fwa!

As long as the rich keep getting richer it doesn't matter what the working population thinks about anything, immigration being just one of many issues.

It doesn't matter to the rich people that there are tons of immigrants coming in to the UK and taking up jobs because they're rich and totally detached from the issue, they also get cheaper labour which leads to bigger profit margins...

It doesn't matter to the scroungers either because their lives aren't made any harder, if anything it'll be of benefit to them as they may actually have an excuse for not finding work and living off hand-outs.

It matters to the people who aren't super rich and are paying the taxes which support the underclass and line the pockets of the fat-cats in power... And as long as we keep paying taxes, who cares what we think..?

shevek_v

While I know this does not answer your question you might be interested in this article as background information to the immigration issue:

http://www.ukwatch.net/article/european_union_policies_and_migratory_pressures

mischievous

They fully understand but because they hate traditional Britishness they rub their hands in glee when fulfilment of their ideas is put into practise.
It also helps the present government to stay in power because most immigrants get benefits whether they are entitled or not, any refusing department of work employee is immediately labelled a racist and that means they could lose their job. The immigrants therefore vote for Labour at elections. Again they have wangled their names onto the electoral registers and very few local government officers bother to check their eligibility for the previously mentioned reasons.

joeandhisguitar

No, they do not understand. They will continue to selectively realize the truth until it is to late. They seem to be more interested in idle sentimentality of the PC movement then what is truly happening as a result of their own arrogance. They are just as big a problem as those who commit the act.

Aeon Flux

They really don't care about reality and they are more interested in harassing those who oppose present immigration polices than debating

tony12

I do understand you. Do you really experience yourself " climate of competition, low wages, businesses profit for this, sets working people against each other etc etc." or just read it in the newspapers? It is true that too many immigrants in short time do not help. I am not experiencing above but I can read it in the newspapers. Do you believe all what you read in it. I don't.

Veritas

You have my unbridled support. As you point out, it isn't personal. We are not saying that we PERSONALLY dislike every immigrant. Governments should be operating impersonally in the interest of British citizens. Again, you have to blame this Government, the EU and those that support them.

That's the real problem though, isn't it? the anti immigration types, those that scream racist, don't believe in the Nation State. In their incredible naivety, they actually think that you can knock all the borders down and expect us all to get on in a multicultural dream world.

How much worse will it get when recession bites and unemployment increases? It's just starting.

The answer to 'amustaph' is YES. They have lots of money, don't commit crime, don't cause cultural complications, and don't need a job. What caused them to leave in the first place. Incidently, they are welcome in Spain, and if they weren't, it is up to Spain to deal with their own problems, even if that means coming out of the EU.

Claire One Belt

I agree with the first answerer. For centuries britons have traveled around the world and settled in different countries. We have never respected local tradition or law, enforcing our views on everything to everybody. So when a few immigrants chose to live here, we can hardly complain can we? Maybe it will do us some good and make us more tolerant of other people. However, in a few cases I doubt that would work.

Edit: Same old answers? Well this is the same old question you continually ask. People are going to have different views from you, we arent going to read this question and suddenly go 'OMG you are so right' and get our pitch forks ready to rid our fine lands of anything foreign.

As for the part about secure employment, I left college after 3 years and found a job in a different employment sector than what I have a qualification in. I also have a second part time job, where I am employed on a month to month basis. Hmmmm.

Amustapha

OK, so you want the 700,000 Brits in Spain, for example, to come home?

game over

as the answer above explains ur people is also allowed into the countries of others . i had spoken with a few from ur country and they all told me they were finding better opportunities which they did not had in the UK in other countries , so because of that i find annoying all the xenophobia being thrown at the poles and anyone else , how about getting an education instead of living complaining !? .

how many times did the people of the UK through history tried to take the few the poles had for themselves and now when they want a better life the xenophobes have a problem with that !? how ironic !

GEE get over yourself and fast the British have influenced many other countries and now because of that many others live with out enough opportunities , learn to give the same u would like to be given to u plus if ur government helps the poor in ur own country or not is not the fault of the immigrants , fight for ur rights but fight the right people for them .

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