Do you agree, only those with an absolute loyalty to America should have the right to be here?
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Do you agree, only those with an absolute loyalty to America should have the right to be here?
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Many on this site feel an entitlement to be here. Something that they falsely believe...a fairy tale of sorts. The truth is there is NO entitlement to be here...none....if you are not legally here you belong elsewhere.
Frankly, I'm sick of the illegal spin and am anxious for the mass deportation to begin, and it will.
But, in an effort to educate, Renagade shared this with us and I would like to share it once again
Here is a portion of U.S. LAW.
( US citizenship vs. US nationality )
US law makes a distinction between "citizenship" and "nationality." All US citizens are also US nationals; however, some US nationals are not US citizens.
The term "national of the United States" is defined in Section 101(a)(22) of the INA [8 USC § 1101(a)(22)] as "a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States".
Section 308 of the INA [8 USC § 1408] says (more or less) that a person born in an "outlying possession" of the US -- or*( a foreign-born child of such a person) -- is a US national, but (not a US citizen.)
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Renegade. AMERICAN NATIVE!
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True American patriotism needs to become reborn in America.
We need to stop trying to be politically correct no matter the cost to our nation, political correctness is becoming the downfall of this nation.
Label me what you will, I know in my heart who & what I am. AMERICAN & DAMN PROUD!!
Tokoloshi, You speak of respect, & America being reviled throughout the world, None think that way when they are receiving AMERICAN dollars in the form of subsidies, foreign aid packages, or AMERICAN disaster relief funding. Dont bad mouth MY country with your mouth full, & your head dry. RENEGADE. |
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Bambi slayer
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No, otherwise, whom would we laugh at for being so stupid? |
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Gizmo
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The idiots have spoken...again....
Yea, your cool with immigrants taking your rights away as an american...you should leave with them ! |
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darkvale
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I've contacted them personally...i wanted to know how they think so as not to make hasty decisions about illegals........they truly do not care for this country at all they wish to use it and abuse it and send money home.............pisses me off even more after getting "their side of it" hell yes they need to be deported. |
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cyclops
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In time war, like now ,we can see , who is loyal to America .
Whatever we disagree with, should be kept internal in our House.
Not aired out to the Foreign Press, and to our enemies.
To put personal gain , before , loyalty to America, is Treason.
Yes , I'm Talking to the Democrats, and Liberal Republicans, including McCain. former EX Presidents. deserve special credit
for spitting in the face of Loyal Americans. |
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Norskeyenta
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I am not sure about all the laws you printed, but I am sure of one thing. America was built on people who Loved it. If someone is not happy here, then they can leave or at least live in peace.
Freedom rings the bell and all people are free to leave if they hate our wonderful country. Even if there are laws protecting people who are on American soil and they hate us and won't leave, then I still think they should be deported. What good are they in this country, living with hate and always planning to harm our innocent citizen's ??? America needs to cleanse it's face and wipe away any debre. We need a clean, peaceful country in which to live. All emmigrants are welcome here, only if they do it the legal way and aim for Peace.. |
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Justa_Honay_Guy
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I am amazed at how many people, mostly on the illegal side, actually have no idea at all why so many of us are saying "deport the illegals". The key word here is "illegal".. You're damn right they should be deported. I don't care what race they are. I have no problem with someone coming to this country (legally) to start a new life. This is the greatest country in the world. But don't come to our country carrying the flag of another country. |
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Perplexed Music Lover
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Loyalty to America DOES NOT mean loyalty to its politicians (especially corrupt and evil ones like those currently running the government), a certain (near fascist) political party (yes, I mean the GOP), or the hate-mongering, right-wing, xenophobic, racist and so-called Christian supporters of the aforementioned. |
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Humanist
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May I suggest you start by taking your rather oversized self away to a place where that distinction makes sense. The aboriginal Indians may take a different view from that which you espouse.
I am sick to the stomach of people who want to constantly forget about who and what America is. |
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Tonatiuh
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no.... i don't live in a world of absolutes....
absolute loyalty to anyone or anything is dangerous.....
ask the german people after world war II... |
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JuanCarlosNoMore
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Sadly, it's hard for me as a citzen to have much patriotism when my country and government allow things like illegal immigration to occurr.
That said, if folks that came into this country to work had to swear allegiance, speak English etc. as the legal immigration laws require ....we wouldn't be in the fix we now face on this issue. |
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Racist insecurity is great
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/americanleftparty/ |
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ShanniC
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No. I think if you live here and obey the laws then there is no problem. As long as you are not treasonous why should you swear complete fealty to the government. Legal citizens have MANY problems with our government. Should they be forced to leave? |
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Arthur Margarine
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Yes. If People are born in one country they should just stay there forever, and never move to a country because they might just have a better life.
What is wrong with you? |
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r_k_winters
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I agree that those who come to this country illegally should be sent home. I also understand that most who come over intend to work for a period of time and then go home with pockets full and will return months later with the same intentions. They do not consider America their homeland and do not intend to be citizens and do not feel the need to apply for citizenship. Therefore, they sneak in and sneak out.
This is not a question of loyalty, it is a question of opportunity. In the case of Mexico there is little being done by their government to employ their people. Their leadership has actively encouraged its citizens to break the law to enter the US in order to meet their economic and health needs by stealing financial and health benefit welfare. It's that simple, stealing.
There is also a general feeling by those "south of the border" that the lower states belong to them and were taken. This is an entitlement to them for entrance into the country.
The basic answer to this problem is three-fold.
*All employers (domestic and commercial) who have illegal workers should be shut down and/or heavily fined. Whether it was accidental or intentional should be immaterial. This will ensure that all make sure they know employees and will not hire illegals.
*Second, all illegals who are now residing in the United States should be returned to country of origin at the cost of the country of origin. Bill every country who allows illegals to enter with interest for every benefit and cost used for those individuals.
*Third, laws regarding birth of children to illegals should be changed. Birth in this country to an illegal alien should not be a path to citizenship. This is a common ploy to get state and federal children's aid. The numbers of children without medical care and good living conditions is seriously miscalculated due to the masses of illegal children taxing local, state, and national government. |
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seizod
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Absolutely not. Allowing diverging ideas and opinions is the basis of our constitution, thank God, even if one disagrees with what the country is doing. How boring if everyone thought alike- and dangerous too! |
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Quiet Amusement
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In Civics last year, we looked at the test that immigrants have to take to becom citizens. Most of the questions even I didn't know the answers to. Why should people born outside our country be expected to be able to name 5 supreme court judges if the majority of Americans can't even name 3? |
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Reisimo
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Well you can still have an appreciation for your own county.. but if you live here.. you should say your an American.. I see people waiving other flags at parades and it just doesn't seem right. They should be waving the stars and stripes! |
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JJ Car
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I agree. |
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jorettah2001
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America, Love Her Or Leave Her! |
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carey sanders
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Bravo... you finally opened a book for a chance. However, may I remind you that this country is based on IMMIGRATION. Not LEGAL immigration but IMMIGRATION period. The early settlers did not have visas, i.d. They killed, raped and stole from the Native Americans to get this land and opened it up to immigrants from all nations.
Whatever happened to "Bring us your poor huddled masses yearning to be free?" Aren't undocumented citizens a group of oppressed people who just want a chance at a better life?
What gives you the right to dictate what types of people should and shouldn't come here? Just because you share the same race as our founding fathers doesn't give you the right to equate your ideas with theirs. This country is a nation of immigrants not LEGAL immigrants. Just IMMIGRANTS period. |
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Salem
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How loyal were you when Clinton's Administration entered Somalia? |
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Doug W
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AHh No. See it's what people like you never understand, America is founded and based on FREEDOM. FREEDOM means I don't have to like what our government is doing. Freedom means that if enough of us don't like it, we can change it.
You have a Bush mentality (IE Dictator mentality) You would do well working for Castro. |
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I feel that anyone in search of freedom should be allowed to come here lawfully and try to fulfill their dreams. That is how we ALL got here. The wonderful melting pot. I love the diversity of this country. |
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Yukaza
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There is absolutely nothing insecure about loving this country and being grateful that you are a native born citizen.My patriotism is part of my upbringing,I was taught by example that one should respect this nation.My father taught me the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 4 yrs old. I didn't under stand what all the words meant but I knew by my fathers actions that it was something very important.As I grew older ,it became automatic to place my right hand over my heart when I said the pledge or when I heard our national anthem.I am very proud of my native country and being able to live my life in the arms of
patriotism is one of my greatest joys.To travel all over this beautiful land and to see its wonders is a joy I do not take lightly my debt to this country that has afforded me so much.I would gladly lay down my life to keep this country the land of the free.I will fight for this country ,this land is mine and yours
.We are Americans and I thank the Gods
everyday for that privilege .My loyalty is to my country and the Bushes of the world do not represent me or my views of my country.She wasn't asking about politics just about loyalty.You damn right if you are in this country you should respect her laws and her flag.if you don't then expect a back lash from those who do.And to all those that had all the negative comments about the USA,I bet you never turned down one thing offered to you from this country.You are the hypocrites.
Nobody just stop ,we live in the United States of America
We are Americans ,we are what we choose to call our selves.Would you prefer to be called a United Statser
or Statesian....I'm sick of hearing that lame statement.Grow up |
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nobodysfool
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America is a continent. |
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gidget lil bit
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The mass deportation will not happen some will be most will not be. But I can't say I have total devotion to everything America stands for lots of things I disagree with. |
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Mendi8a
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No. Your version of "loyalty" is not acceptable. Loyalty should not equal racism or superiority. |
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tjdrum7
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NO - WHERE's THE LOYALTY WHEN OUR POLITICIAN'S ALLOW COMPANIES TO SHIP JOBS OVERSEAS, WHILE THEY GRAFT KICKBACK FROM THE SAME CEO'S . THEN , THE WHITE HOUSE ALLOWS BIG TAX BREAKS . WHERE'S THE LOYALTY WHEN CHENEY HAD ALL THOSE DEFERMENTS FROM VIET NAM , WHILE BUSH WENT A.W.O.L. There are new hospitals being built overseas.....do you have a NEW HOSPITAL in your town .?????????? |
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Wise ol' owl
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Great, but how do you enforce such an act? |
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saulg21
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Let me guess. Next you're probably going to recommend we sign some "Oath of Loyalty" form or something like that. Next,we'll be goose stepping up and down the street with our right arms outstretched. Get off this illegal thing. You're beating a dead horse. |
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Whats the most answer youve ever gottin to a question youve asked???? |
Additional Details Um the reason i posted this under immigration is because i dont know where to post it...LOL... |
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Should I lie? |
| Ok hi, my daughters father is American should I lie on my daughters birth cert and say I do not know who the father is? I'm not sure if this is true but I heard the father can object me taking ... |
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Why are white people so scared of mexicans? |
| I'm white and I live and grew up in a 60% hispanic california city. They are some of the most friendly people on the planet. I do not see the logic in being so scared that you move somewhere ... |
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Why aren't the illegals fighting back on this forum? |
| It's funny how I always see a lot of hate topics toward illegals...not LEGALS, right? I would like to see some of them talk back at those who wrote trash about them. Is it because of what they ... |
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Why is it a crime to be Ilegal? |
| the mayority of ilegal people come over to the United States to work is it a crime to work ?... |
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Why are some of you americans, such fools and ignorant? |
| i mean come on you think your army is the greatest in the world, its not, how do you know it is? it has never been in war against canada or mexico (im talking about the present and venezuelas army, ... |
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Would it be fair in the assumption that the Mexican government promotes illegal immigration? |
| For instance, a few years ago a U.S. corporation moved it's operations to Mexico under the fair trade agreement. Their starting pay was about $3.00 an hour less than our min. wage. The Mexican ... |
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Who are your favourite Immigrants? |
| I'm a Brit and work with a few polish they are a good laugh, work hard and like a beer after work. Also got some carribean mates, again sound people, and the indians are nice aswell wicked food, ... |
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Why is it okay to rip families apart just because one of the parents came here illegally? |
| My husband is in the process of being deported. He was ripped away from my 11 month old daughter and I have been left to support her on my own. He has always supported us before now. I agree that ... |
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Should we round up all illegal immigrants and exterminate them? |
| They are ruining this great country and taking america jobs , its high time we get rid of these scum ridden rodents!... |
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I want to move to the UK to live off benofits.....? |
| .....whats the best way of getting into the country?... |
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Is obama a legal immigrant of USA? |
Additional Details Evidence shows he was born in kenya. He was ordered off the Polls by a judge but he still kept going. I dont really think that he is but i migh tbe wrong...... |
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Here's a solution to the (so called) "immigration problem". What do you think? |
On this side, the most rabid, hateful, racist Minuteman in the USA.
On this side, and average border jumping mexican guy.
A 12 round fight. minuteman wins, the Mexican goes home. Mexican ... |
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Why can't illegals learn English? |
Additional Details I don't know how many websites which say that the illegal aliens don't want to learn English and have no desire to assimilate...all they want is money and ... |
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