Explain to me how 4% of the population can cause so much damage?

yars232c

Really?

Illegals make up 14.5% of the population by estimate, where did you get that from?

If 20 Million People Are 100 Percent ILLEGAL ALIEN

Then 6.6 Percent Of The US Population = ILLEGAL ALIEN

Thats 5 Percent Of The US Workforce = ILLEGAL ALIEN

There Are Currently Closer To 30 Million ILLEGAL ALIENS
In The USA

Thats More Like 10 Percent Of The US Population

Get Your Facts Straight

hayleylov

come on pancha we can post facts from our very own government websites and you will still ask the same question tomorrow

meathead

When you put into the equation that 4% of 300 million is about 12 million people, it puts a different perspective on things !!!!
Now to ask how can 12 million people cause much damage seems to be a very simple answer.

â™¥love2havefunâ™¥

in california, 1/3 of the population is mexican and only a small percentage of them are here legally. it may be 4% spread across the states, but in the border states its a different story.

shanney fan

Sorry, I don't understand the question. What 4% are you referring to?

ok o

i think blacks make up more than 4%

MikeInRI

If you are talking about illegal aliens while that fact that they are illegal is why they are hated. They are breaking the law and seem to be getting away with it. No one likes it when some group is seen as getting special treatment that most people in the land did not get to go through or there immigrant ancestors. I think the better question is why does that suprise you?

riverhawthorne

No, it's true. It is the "small percentage" that are running things. Our leaders are mostly figure heads...because they can't come into power without the backing of a behind-the-scene force (and conspiracy buffs will love this!). The world operates from a basis of money, land, and greed...and it is guarded zealously.

The majority does not hold this power...however, there is power in numbers...and it is the only way things can come into balance. If you poll the majority...around the world, you will discover they want the same things we want...a decent place to live, peace, and abundance for all. If this is true, why do we have so much strife? It's because we aren't in power...we do not control the purse strings, make the decisions, etc. Does this make sense to you? I hope so. It is through our recognition of these things that real change can take place.

wave

I beg your pardon, je ne comprende pas.

No, Pancha- there is proof that illegals are causing a lot of trouble. I'm sure you saw this before: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49965
-(I post it a lot- out of 25 websites that I looked up and that showed excellent immigrant statistics, this one summarized all of them the best.) Anyway, you want an explanation? Simple:
a. Unlike most legal immigrants- who come here for a better life AND consider the USA their new homeland- most illegal immigrants just consider the USA a place to make money to send back to Mexico and to collect welfare. (There are always exceptions to these two groups, but on this issue there can't be gray areas.)
b. Since most don't consider the USA to be their new homeland, many don't see anything wrong with committing crimes or doing anti-American acts. (They can always return to Mexico.)
c. Finally, if you want proof that minorities can cause more crimes then majorities, just look at the racial percentages of prisons. Although I seriously doubt that illegals make up only 4% of the population, the racial percentages say it best:
"In 2002 roughly 93.2 % of prisoners were male. About 10.4 % of all black males in the United States between the ages of 25 and 29 were sentenced and in prison by year end, compared to 2.4 % of Hispanic males and 1.2 % of white males."
-That was from wikipedia, which got it from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Although I doubt those statistics are 100% correct, they give a good idea of minority vs. majority. Even with the Hispanic percentage, Iâ€™m sure a majority are illegal immigrants.

thetravelinggardener

Once you are in high politicaloffice, you can do as much harm or good as you desire. You can steal, you can kill and you can screw whom ever you desire and make everyonelove youin the name of religion or a lost cause.

And if you think we have freedom of religion, ask the Branch Davidians in Waco how they like to be toasted.

freebird

Destroy a random 4% of your body. Does it hurt?

alexander_rom2000

They are just a bit over 2% .
More than blacks.
My humble question is :How an illegal government accept
an illegal immigration ????????
And it is not about damage. It is about work force.
They accept a very low payment for a very low sloppy job.

Sashie

4% if divided out equally between all the states .... 47% in New Mexico now ... you can break it down by state if you like and see what percentages you come up with ... you know it, and I know it ... why post nonsense questions like this? I thought you were cleverer than that ....:(

FREAKZILLA

if they are illegal they don't pay income tax . everybody is saying 11 million illegal immigrants . lets say they are illegally making $12,000 a year . Of course they don't get paid that much due to being very uneducated and not being able to communicate . so $12000 multiplied by 11 million would be 132000000000 . I think 20% is a fair average of what american get taken out of their check for numerous things . so 132000000000 multiplied by .012 which is $1,584,000,000 is how much they owe america give or take . let's go ahead and make it an even billion a year america is losing just to be fair , because if they have 15 kids that is a lot of deductions

DAR

Actually, I think that number is a little higher, which actually helps your argument when it comes to crime (5% of the population being 30% of the prison population is a little better.)

It is part of the non-assimilation factor. They concentrate in certain areas and don't learn English so that when their children enter school they know no English and that is a huge burden for the schools to struggle with. In LA there are literally millions of them.

Wow, yars, that is quite a link. I try to modify them based on clear bias - like when the MALDEF guy in 2003 said there were 20 million (which I think there may be NOW) was he trying to emphasize the difficulty of removing them, or the size of his political power base?

I recognize that my numbers may be a little low because they are based on counts going back to the census, and illegals don't always stand up to be counted in a census. Particularly if the number of them in a dwelling violates leases or zoning laws.

I guess numbers vary. I think it is 12 to 20 million, but I have seen higher. The lower ones are all based on an old PEW estimate without increase for passage of time.

turntable

are you talking about legals or illegals...

nuclearemperor

what's the 4%?

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rle_

easy, they all have to hate a group of people, and all are prepared to break the law or think they are above the law and kill who they hate, oh.. and they are so good at covering up there mess.

mj23

Pancha ...please explain your question

jeeveswantstoknow

I get it. You are referring to illegals; primarily mexican illegals here in this country for permanent residency or temporary work (under the table pay). Some send part of their pay back home, some do not. Let's talk about the crime aspect. 11 to 12 million illegals have the same everyday needs that you and I have. Many of those needs are hard to obtain without "your papers please".

So there is much "black market" enterprise associated with this illegal population. Because of the problem of having no papers; i.e. SS #, drivers license, birth certificate, credit card, bank account, etc. many of these people are frustrated in trying to provide not only for themselves, but for their families as well. So some of them turn to crime or drugs, or both. Many are intimidated into gangs, and a life that is headed in no particular direction. Couple this with a general everyday need of housing, food, medical care, schooling and other basic needs and you have a sector of society that is on the fringe fighting for their very survival.

Walk a mile in their shoes: For one entire week, try to function on the assumption that you do not possess a credit card, a drivers license, auto insurance, Social Security number, birth certificate, green card (if you look other than white), bank account, or some sort of recognized legitimate form of identification that hints of being legal. Imagine that scenario, and if you have the cahonies, act like it for a week.

Now, put yourselves in their shoes acting this way all the time. Them and their spouses and their children. Now, one more level of understanding. As bad as this is, it is BETTER than the existence they left behind them in Mexico.

Why does this government NOT STOP the flow of Mexicans into this country. Simple: Votes and their indebtedness to the international banksters: The owners of the Federal Reserve. The government needs more workers buying "things" and "services" to keep the flow of money in circulation and the economy moving. A slow economy means less votes in the next election for the ruling class presently in charge. More spending means more taxes are being paid; perhaps not by the illegals in the form of VOLUNTARY income taxes maybe, but think of all the other direct taxes that they do have to pay, sales tax being only a percentage of those taxes.

Any government has to survive on taxes. The flow of taxation has to exceed the budget proposed. When the burden exceeds the budget, the legislators impose a higher burden on those who are legally bound to pay the taxes: U.S. citizens, who are legally bound. Those who are not legal have other burdens as those explained above.

Their burdens put a strain on everyone else in this country who is paying for that lack of legality whether it be no income tax revenue, crimes of frustrations, crime prevention, court cost, security measures, stealing, gang wars, drug traffic, medical care (imposed by state policies to be mandatory - even thou the state is not taking up the slack to compensate those institutions mandated to provide those "free" medical services), schooling, day care, etc. and all the other std. operating needs of your average family.

It's like the fellow said. Destroy a random 4% of any part of your body and see if it hurts.

Now think of New Orleans and Katrina. 600,000 lost virtually everything. That loss has put an incredible strain on the immediate area, and to some extent on the rest of the country. Now multiply that cost times 20 and you have some idea of the strain 11,000,000 people, who aren't legal, put on this country every day,.....and that number is growing by leaps and bounds.

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