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For those who are opposed to illegal immigration, would you ever consider being pro-amnesty?
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For those who are opposed to illegal immigration, would you ever consider being pro-amnesty?

I am opposed to illegal immigration too, but I do believe that in some individual cases we should be pro-amnesty as measure of goodwill to those who are suffering. I just wanted to ask this question to get a feel for everyone's sensitivity level towards his fellow man. OK, let's put the Mexican border issue aside for just one second and consider an individual case:

A starving man flees opression in North Korea and immigrates illegally to the US, knowing that he cannot leave his communist country legally and if he makes his intentions known he will be subject to arrest and possibly torture and execution. Many people would say this man and his neighbors should fight to overthrow their opressive government rather than come to our soil. I can see why you would feel this way. We fought for our freedom. But, say this man doesn't find support from his neighbors because they are afraid. If he fights, he will die and then there will be no life for him to live. Can't amnesty be considered?
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One quick detail I wanted to add that wouldn't fit in my original question. There will be at least one person on here who will assume I ultra liberal. Not the case, I consider myself moderate. Also, I am very pro-American and always have been. I just wanted to add that before anyone thought of throwing an insult at me.


    




Yukaza
I believe that would be an asylum situation ,not amnesty.
To flee an oppressive communistic government is not running across the border to get a better paying job.
Those country's try to prevent their people from leaving,not encourage then to as the Mexican government does.And in Mexico most all the neighbors either has a relative or knows someone that has illegally entered America.I feel you are comparing apples to oranges in this question.There is a huge difference in political asylum and illegal immigration.
I do not ,will not support a blanket amnesty for all illegal aliens from any country.


FozzieBear
No amnesty. He broke our law by coming here without permission. That makes him a criminal, and we don't need any more criminals in our country. We've got enough home-grown ones.

I'm sorry that this kind of thing happens, but we can't take in every stray that we find on the road. There is lots of suffering all over the world, and we must pick and choose our battles.


jasonzbtzl
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I believe it's called political asylum and it too has a time limit I would imagine as well as it's limits on amount of people that can take advantage of it, I'm sure the entire population of North Korea would flee here if given the option, but would we as a country be able to support them, would it not be more wise to figure out a way to improve their living conditions and allow them to stay in their own country. If you want to put a dollar amount on it, I'm betting the latter idea would end up costing less over time.


Perk1973
There is already a procedure for requesting political or humanitarian assylum. It isn't necessary to illegally immigrate.


Niecy
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Well lets think about it for a minute. At the very least, most illegal immigrants commit 3 crimes: illegally entering the country, use false id, and not paying taxes.

So I will be pro-amnesty when I am allowed to commit 3 crimes and am given amnesty.

In the case you stated, he would be eligible for asylum so there would be no need to illegally immigrate.


katjha2005
It's called asylum and we do have it here in the US.. but with that they have to go about that the proper way also... asylum however is not to be confused with illegal immigration


El Pistolero Negra
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Give me liberty or give me death

not

Give me liberty or give me amnesty elsewhere.


JD
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What You Are Describing Is Called Political Asylum

Cubanos Escape From Cuba EVERY DAY
Some Head For The USA (Only 90 Miles Away)
Some Go Otherwheres

If They Reach The USA
They Are Granted REFUGEE Status
(Same Scenario Would Hold True For The Escaped N Korean)



Political Asylum And ILLEGAL Immigration
Are 2 Different Animals





Mexico (And Other Latin American Nations)
Are FREE Nations
(NOT Being Oppressed By Communism Or Fascism)
Therefore
These Latin Americanos Do Not Qualify For Political Asylum
As A Cubano Or N Korean Does


LOUDOBBS
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If they are American then they will not work for dirt cheap, then what would be the point in them being here and bypassing all our other immigrants that are trying hard to do this the right way?

We should award them for breaking our law
your logic is flawed


Average Joe
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People don't need amnesty. They need to go through the correct process. I am willing to accept any hard-working, English-speaking, non-criminal, into the US. But they need to follow our rules. And we need to know who they are.


VWJennifer
There is a fundamental problem with this. First, you give amnesty to this man. He, of course, will want his family to have the same benefit. Soon, the neighboring town decides they have it tough too, and they want the same treatment as the first gentleman and his family. It continues on and on, until we are expected to give amnesty to the whole country.
Not to mention, if we were to give amnesty on a case by case basis, who is to say the bleeding heart in the cubicle next to you isn't just feeling sorry for every sob story that comes across her desk? Before you know it, some guy has a neighbor that kicked his dog, therefore he just HAS to get to America, and this woman lets him in.


apuleuis
Hmmm. isn't that exactly what the pilgrims did. Didn't like the country they were in and fled to America. It's what our country was built on. I think we should open our borders up to more people. When did we get so elitist?


Justaxing
A starving man living in oppressed North Korea. What about the rest of the people? People need to make the best with what they have. God willing he has two good hand, legs and strong lungs filled with air. Make the best with what he (they) have. Illegal immigration needs to be stopped!

There are other countries besides the US. Some of these countries I bet are alot better than oppressed North Korea.


Crazybird
No. We did amnesty once and proved it's not the answer.
This gentleman would probably qualify for asylum since if he were returned he would face death. Yes there are many illegals comming here in search of freedom. Which is far better than those who just want to abuse our system and take over this country. Unfortunatly it would probably take decades to interview every illegal and until then they'd still be crossing the border by the thousands everyday just wanting money. Way too many abused the freedom this country has to offer and still do. Our laws must be enforced and respected or you can kiss this country goodbye.


Ophelia
We were pro amnesty in 1986 to those who were "suffering", and we see how well that worked. 20 years later here we are again, talking about amnesty. Some of those who benefitted from that said amnesty came back and ran planes into the WTC and the pentagon. What a nice way to say thank you. No, thanks I prefer to help the American who suffers, since it's not in vogue to care about them. We can't make exceptions, it's not fair to the whole of the group. Besides, haven't you considered the fact that North Koreans SHOOT AT OUR MILITARY and shouldn't be given any kind of citizenship without screening and proper evaluation. My brother served there(on the border of S. Korea) for 4 years until 2004, guarding the border, and was shot at more than once. Screw the people that defend your freedom though, right?


straightup
I agree with you to a point. It will be almost impossible to round up and send all the illegal immigrants home. We need to put real pressure on those who are hiring illegals through harsh penalties. I think if we also set strict requirements on those who would like amnesty, as some have alluded to, like a requirement to pay back taxes, to learn English, and to have a job, etc. then it may work. However, we do need to do something. I would rather them be paying taxes, along with the employers, then what we have now.


steve c
Not any more than I would give a murderer or a pedophile a get out of jail free card. The word amnesty sickens me.


Princess_29_71
No amnesty...


americansrule4ever
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HELL NO!!!! NO ILLEAGLS !!!!


blogger
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No Amnesty! The illegals that are living here already in the U.S. need to get at the back of the line and wait with the rest of the people going about it the LEGAL way! How is it fair that some people be granted amnesty because they paid a smuggler, ran across the arizona desert, swam across the rio grande etc, to get here, why should they get a free pass to papers while there are people following U.S. Law to go about getting their papers the LEGAL and PROPER way.


La Gueta Micaela
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Insults will be thrown irregardless...first I would like to thank you for your candor. I am also Pro Amnesty .... and people have to realize that other people are "forced" by situations to immigrate., as were the Europeans who migrated to the Americas...no one wants to leave his or her beloved home....they do so with sadness.......I am a humanitarian ..... People are to be loved not hated and specially not hated for skin color.





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