Has Islam failed?

A N Mouse

Has it failed? Could it not be that Islam is in fact spread it's self out across the world and so in fact is very very successful? Church congregations are possible at an all time low

Why sayer

When state and religion are separated (and civil law is ABOVE religious law), there is no problem.

P. Sword

most of countries you call "islam" are following western paradigms, so you ment to say: western imperialism failed. muslims under the Abbaside empire 1000 years ago had a better health and welfare system than USA now.

mccormack_thomas

I think it has failed its followers. It needs a reformation similiar to the Christian one so that it takes into account modern thinking about human rights.

Mr Mmmmm

It has certainly failed in their countries, but they are certainly going to try again in ours ! and our government will assist all it can !

UTOPIA OR BUST,

what are you trying to infect our computers with. that nugget thing looks real suspicious why does it ask to be ADDED TO DISC IS IT SOME VIRUS YOU ARE TRYING TO GIVE US

celvin

The ME and other regions are actually victims of imperialism., the NWO forces are more afraid of Arab Nationalism so they encouraged Islam ism. Malaysia successfully rescued themselves by refusing to play ball with the World Bank and IMFetc -partially due to Islamic teaching on usury -which is a favored NWO method for enslaving nations - they haven't looked back since.

If want to see what system is really failing in the world check the West's birth rate.

politicsguy

To answer your question, is impossible because it is based on a number of false premises. Firstly, you don't know that 400, 000, "illegal migrant Muslims", came to the UK between 2001 and 2007, that's a guess. Secondly, Islam is not a place, it is a religion. Muslims come from every nation in the world and are members of every racial group. Thirdly, where is your evidence for this statement, "Many illegal migrants come from Islam because Islam is a failed system which does not provide modern world facilities for most Muslims." I'd be very interested in seeing where that information came from. Lastly, Islam is not a political system. Turkey has been a secular state since Attaturk.

Just for information, your link to the ONS website, does not work, but then you are more familiar with Migrationwatch. And what is the map that you link to meant to indicate?

My question to you is, why if Islam has failed, did not all 1.5 billion Muslims move to the UK?

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html#Islam

***EDIT****

Interesting deduction you make, with no evidence whatsoever. No point giving me the link to the ONS website, I'm somewhat more familiar with it than you are; as I pointed out in a previous answer, it is part of my work and my connection with the ONS goes back to when they were the OPCS. The reason that you are unable to give a definitive link - or even to indicate which survey your figure comes from - is those figures don't exist, you made them up. In the space of a few hours, your estimates on the number of Muslims in this country has risen from 2 million to 2.6 million. Is this a variation on a card trick? Pick a figure, any figure! And you think Labour is bad with immigration figures!

As I said yesterday, thanks for the chuckles you give me. Now how about answering the questions which I set out above. And just before cutting and running by closing your question, let's see some answers.

Action's Fury=Truth Speaker

****************The Blast of fact*****************

WHEN MUSLIMS WERE STICKING TO ISLAM THEY WERE GREAT SCIENTIST, BUSINESSMAN, ECONOMIST, LEADERS etc BUT WHEN THEY LEFT ISLAM THEY DECLINED, on the other hand WHEN CHRISTIANS WERE STICKING TO CHRISTIANITY & CHURCH THEY THEMSELVES CALLED IT AS â€œDARK AGESâ€, lol, BUT WHEN THEY LEFT CHRISTIANITY & CHURCH THEY RISED. Read HISTORY to TESTIFY.

HOW THE WORD OF GOD (THE HOLY BIBLE) CAN BE SOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG?

â€œGalileoâ€ one of the most popular scientists was persecuted or killed by CHRISTIANS & tons of others scientist because they disagreed with "official" church doctrine.

Scientific thoughts which contradicted the "Bible" r to many JUST VISIT THE LINK BELOW TO KNOW URSELF http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr41.htm
(PROVE THAT HOLY BIBLE IS CORRUPTED by some idiot CHRISTIANS)

www.cyberistan.org (Muslims in science)

www.1001inventions.com ( MUSLIMS CONTRIBUTION IN THE WORLD & 4 HUMANITY)
BBC - An Islamic History of Europe (Muslims in Spain)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P_och2_pOQU&mode=related&search=#

Islam In Europe: When The Moors Ruled In Europe
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W0ve8AF5Hf8&mode=related&search=

Islamic Science - 9th-12th Century
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tIMifWU5ucU

foxy

brainwashed at birth by parents who's parents were brainwashed at birth and who will NEVER give an inch while believing everything that was written by a mere mortal and many others since who have adapted to what they believe .......load of old cobblers but then again something needs to hold mankind from destroying itself and a church is every bit as good as a mosque to help do that

Chris

Islam has failed to provide a modern way of life for Muslims, that is beyond dispute.It is the reason why Muslims must come to the west, there is nowhere in the Islamic world which will provide anything like the sophistication of any western country.

I agree it is a titanic mistake to allow millions of Muslims into the UK. I think we should help them in their Muslim countries, trade, technology, etc, But to bring millions here is unfair to the British

IRON MAN

"Islam" has nothing to do with it. People just want a safer, better way of life.

DON'T WE ALL?

crosstwntraffic

It was failed from its conception.

awgaa

I agree with you that the Islam is not the race, I am coming from a Muslim country I am in Switzerland now since 2001 and I do not want to go back to my country because it is failing or on its way not because of Islam they put the system of the country as a Muslim country and they never put the rules of Islam on the real Islam is very successful but you will never see it now in this world

trish

Yes you are right Islam doesnt work for a lot of Muslims but for the extremists its a dream come, true. Once they adapt it to suit themselves. Apparently Islam is supposed to be about love and peace but you don't see large settlements of Muslims living peacefully with other religions anywhere in the world. So I think Yes Islam has failed its true followers. Perhaps its time for those people to take a hard look at Islam

milano

they follow the pound Â£Â£Â£

tarien

Outdated and backward absolutely. 2 million, I think it will be far more than that if this present attitude from the Government prevails- lets get out of the EU and divorce ourselves from this madeness. Life is getting too complicated.

Mike Sanders

and Christianity isn't outdated?....

Roxy

Where is this place called Islam?

A Human Bean

Islam is spreading like a weed of hate and death across the world. Unfortunately, it has not failed. Instead it is successfully subjugating women, tearing down knowledge and spreading evil around the world.

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