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Have right-winged extremist put soo much pressure on the border patrol.....?

....that's it's caused them to do things like beat up and tase a PASTOR? We never heard stories like this before the whole 'Anti-immigration Movement'...Why?. What should be done about these right-winged extremist Janet Napolitano spoke of?

http://cbs13.com/local/Pastor.Beaten.And.2.987065.html
Pastor Beaten And Tased By Arizona Border Patrol

A man who grew up in Sacramento is now sharing a traumatic story on the internet. He is a pastor who says he was beaten for exercising his constitutional rights.

"I'm crying out for mercy, they are torturing me with tasers again and again," says Pastor Steven Anderson.

Pastor Steven Anderson claims he was tortured during a common border patrol stop in Arizona.

The father of four says he exercised his consecution right not to be searched without a warrant. He says that's when he claims agents broke out his passenger and driver side windows.

"Both windows shattered in the same instant," says Anderson.

"I felt like his full body weight was just driving my face into more broken glass and asphalt," Anderson explains.

It took 11 stitches to close the cuts on the pastor's face.

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In the report, right-wing extremism was defined as hate-motivated groups and movements, such as hatred of certain religions, racial or ethnic groups. “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,”
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http://www.splcenter.org/donate/donationsatwork/article.jsp?site_area=1&aid=129
SPLC Newsletter Tracks Anti-Immigration Movement
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braideninge, so you are saying that even though he has a right to refuse a search without a warrant, that he deserved the beating, cuts that required stitches and being tased?


    




Michael N
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Many people who work in immigration are honest people who are just doing their jobs. However, there are a certain number of fanatics who regularly abuse their power and authority. Also, in some cases local government law enforcement agencies have been authorized to act on immigration, and this has resulted in a lot of abuse. Finally, we have private citizens and private organizations that are essentially motivated by racism.

Fundamental immigration reform is long overdue.


mikea_va
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And do you have any evidence of the actual event??
It is just his word vs the border patrol. How do we know that he didn't threaten the border patrol then got his windows broken??


Chesty Puller Lives
No, Greasy Antonia.... Its LEGAL American citizens that are requiring that OUR government ENFORCE the immigration laws.

If the Pastor was entirely innocent why did a Drug detection K-9 alert on his vehicle????

When did AZ get its own Border Patrol? I thought that the FEDs owned that agency...
live and learn


Illegal ALIENS just need to go home, it will make more JOBS for our own. Our own American citizens who SHOULD come before Illegal Aliens for jobs, health care, housing and anything else. Illegal ALIENS don't deserve a DAMN thing since they have broken OUR laws JUST by coming here ILLEGALLY.

How come you can't understand that simple thought???
Are you afraid that your ILLEGAL mom and dad will have to go back to Sonora, Mexico?
Are you afraid that your ILLEGAL girlfriend will get picked up by ICE and sent back before she can drop her Anchor baby?


m.a.i.i.
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If he was not doing anything wrong, he would have and should have agreed to the search. The border patrol is dealing with drug cartel, murderers etc.... they need to take precautions with everyone they deal with. police are allowed to do the same to citizens in a road stop if they refuse to follow procedures, what makes this person any better. because he claims religion on his side, I do not think so!!
Janet has apologized to the American Legion and soldiers because she knew she was in the wrong, she has also agreed to start raids again. maybe she finally woke up and found out what the American People want done. sounds like a person trying to influence people with a bogus story. Rodney King felt the same thing and he was a citizen, Border control was doing their job thankfully!!! He does not follow procedures then yes!


LV-Gnome
A warrant is not needed if there's probable cause to believe drugs are involved, and since the article states it was a K-9 that alerted them to the vehicle, they had probable cause. His lack of cooperation probably expanded that probable cause.

I don't agree with the level of force used, but it wasn't only the border patrol agents involved, and I'd hardly call them 'right wing extremists' for wanting to search a vehicle that they thought may have been involved in drug smuggling, a huge problem when it comes to the border.


Loretta C
la raza groups can get ugly to.


braideninge
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sh*t happens, thats why you comply with authority if you have nothing to hide.

accountability and responsibilty, learn it, live it

and why would you care, remember we are not a christian nation anymore, was probably facist, godless, dems/libs who didnt like him because he believes in God.


catmaninmo II
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LMAO!!! Thats funny... probable cause and greasy copy/pastes some other anti american crap... like was said above....search warrant was not needed when the dog flagged his vehicle, it created probable cause...also an exercise of police powers/constitutional rights/protections. What did he have to hide? A load of mehican pot?


Micky....the resurrection
Is there any proof that this actually occurred? I'm highly doubting it, sounds fishy to me.


imback_missme
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Your posts to glorify your criminal friends are getting you nowhere,Well, I lied just keep posting your garbage and rants and copy and pastes so you can show Americans how truly stupid you are.We are on to you and your criminal friends ands we are not going to take your **** forever.....locked and loaded.


legal lover :)
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No, I am much more concerned about all the violence that your illegal friends bring to the U.S.


William O
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This will probably turn out something like the story a while back you got your knickers all twisted up about. "US citizen arrested by police and held for ICE" Sounded good until the police showed the tape of him stating he was an illegal alien! Then you didn't say anything about it again! Do you know many of the stories are false or greatly exaggerated? And how many involve a "Pastor"? How about how many of these morons try to sue the police by saying they are illegal aliens or they got beat up by the police when the incident was caught on tape show their lies? LOL
Next we'll be getting stories about police targeting "pastors" or some other BULL CR@P! LOL
Do you really believe everything you paste?


Dingleberry
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So there's your answer Tony. The government should enforce all laws on the statute books - especially those concerning illegal immigrants obviously - but suddenly suspend them when it comes to an American citizen's right not to be searched without a warrant.

It's very clear if you just close one eye, tilt your head to one side, squint your good eye and hit yourself repeatedly around the head with a mallet.

So to recap - enforce all laws of the country apart from the ones we don't much like. Glad we cleared that one up.


rlstaehle
They don't need a warrant if the dog alerted them to the car, it's called probable cause. Also, just listening to the guy, I'm willing to bet he had become belligerent, and resisted.


Joe C
Greasy Tony,

You may have a point there in the Border Patrol in being too excessive. After all there are cops that do use abuse their powers.

However, there are border patrol stops along the Interstate Highways in Southern Arizona. These are check points and the border patrol does have the authority to stop all cars entering the check points. I have not read the laws and procedures in details but I assumed if the border patrol has the authority to stop them then it has the authority to search the cars as it sees necessary.

A couple of years ago I was driving from Yuma, AZ to San Diego, CA on I-8. As I approached the CA border, there was a US Border Patrol check point. I slowed down and the guard waved me through. If the guard ordered me to stop and asked me to get out and search my car, then I have to obey because at that time I though they had the authority. If the border patrol did not have the authority then this would have been brought to national attention many years ago. It would have been challenged back then. Again, I did not research this in detail.

Did the border guard abuse his powers, maybe, but I still think the guard has the authority to stop and search all cars. Think about it for a minute, why would the US government put itself in a position so it can easily be challenged?

Before asking this kind of question you might want to first research the laws and procedures on border patrol. If you had hard facts in your favor you can easily make your point and your question would have been very difficult to answer by decent law-abiding US Citizens.


Thomasina Paine
I believe they work for DHS - so try asking Nepolitano this gem of a question.


LeighAnn D
Sadly,this is yet another story that doesn't surprise me! That's awful.Something needs to be done to stop people like this NOW! It's disturbing that some of the people who answered your question are actually making excuses for this type of behavior.





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