Have you ever been a victim of an illegal?

Nope.....I know a few, too, actually more than a few...They are not monsters, contrary to what you hear here....

One Big Daddy

Yes, everytime you ask a question

Lolli

I would have to say yes..
This dates back to my middle school days. A young illegal mexican kid grabbed my breasts when I was in school. I was VERY upset about this. I was totally violated. I told my parents about what happend, and they met with the school principal. The principal said "You have to understand they have a different culture" and did absolutely nothing to the boy. I was very angry that there was no consequence for his actions simply because my principal believed that him comming from another "culture" was excuse enough.

handyman5218

We keep marching forward toward the perfect definition of Fac- ism. Think about - better yet, read about, 1933 - 38 in Germany and the consolidation....of ALL the power.. Lovely thought eeh...

Do we want to further allow the disintegration of the B of Rights ??? to protect who......?? against whom??
A mythical foundation (The lies of September 2001) means all the rest of the structure is built on said lies.

Synthetic Terriers are dangereous...... since deception is their art.

I just called my senator's office and in 2 minutes had my voice noted. It is easy. Or you can do email way.

Phone #'s are listed on the bottom..

Something bad is about to happen. Only you can stop it, and the clock is ticking.

We hate to sound apocalyptic. We loathe the politics of fear (even if it works!). So we're not looking to scare you. But you need to know that the end is near for "archaic" ideas like . . .

* the right to security in your home and papers
* the right to be free from unreasonable searches
* the safety net of judicial warrant requirements
* the right to a trial by a jury of your peers in a system of due process
* reasonable bail and recourse for false arrest
* protection from cruel and unusual punishment

Those were great ideals for "dead white men," but apparently your children won't need them anymore. Because, you know, the politicians need to protect you and your children from terrorism.

But the politicians need to get a grip, and a sense of proportion. You don't turn the country upside down for light and transient causes. You're more likely to die in your car, or be struck by lightening, than be harmed by terrorism. We don't fret about such risks, so why are destroying American freedom in the name of an even smaller risk?

A bill is about to pass the House. It permits unlimited spying on your internet usage and telecommunications, the Fourth Amendment be damned. For brevity, I'll call it the "Spying on Americans Act," or SPA for short.

The SPA is likely to pass the Senate too, but there we have a chance to stop it.

Under SPA . . .

* The President can spy on you without a warrant
* You'll never learn that his spys have done so, until they use the information against you (legally or not)
* Your phone and internet providers can't refuse to provide information about you
* Or tell you they've done so after the fact

The result will be more warrantless searches than in all of U.S. history. And if that history is any guide, it's only a matter of time before this power is used for reasons other than "national security."

The House may vote any minute. The Senate will likely vote Tuesday. THIS IS URGENT. I'll tell you what to do in a moment, but first, there's more bad news.

Congress also has a plan for non-citizen residents and ANYONE on foreign soil.

Senator Bill Frist wants to be your President, so he's pandering to the "my country right or wrong" crowd. He wants to leave the Senate with a bang. He thinks he can do this by combining the Tribunal/Torture bill with the Spying on Americans Act.

And the news on the Tribunal/Torture bill just got worse. There was a "lesser evil" version of this bill from Senators Warner and McCain, but Warner and McCain just rolled over. The new bill will . . .

* Allow the President to detain people indefinitely without charges,
* Deny detainees access to courts to challenge their detention or their treatment.
* Create special military tribunals with reduced standards of due process
* Deny detainees the protection of the Geneva Convention's Common Article 3
* Allow the President to define torture

But you may not hear it reported this way in the media, because the politicians are playing clever games with words. Take note: The protections of Common Article 3 aren't defined in the legislation, so Congress can claim they've left these protections in place. But it isn't true, because now only the President decides what those protections actually are, and no accused person can even claim the protection of Common Article 3 before the special tribunals this legislation creates.

Nice trick. The protections are still there, but the President decides what they are, and no on e can use them.

Do you want this President to have this power? Do you want future presidents to have it? Do you want to risk that these powers won't be applied to citizens as well, as soon as the politicians have the slightest excuse for doing so?

So here's what the Senate will face Tuesday . . .

* A bill permitting spying on Americans without a warrant.
* Another bill creating special tribunals and permitting torture.
* A proposal to combine these bills.

None of these bills will be read, and none of us will have a chance to review them before the vote happens. But they are likely to pass, because the Republicans control both chambers and their President is in big trouble. He's broken existing laws in a number of ways, and now he needs new legislation to cover his butt after the fact.

This shouldn't be possible in our system, but a court decision on the President's illegal spying op ened the door for Congress to do this. We have no checks. We have no balances. The courts have failed to do their duty and the Republican Congress is a rubber stamp for a lawless Republican President.

Are we exaggerating? Are we being partisan? We aren't telling you the half of it. This President has violated so many laws in so many ways it would take a book to catalog them. And we aren't being partisan because plenty of Republicans in Congress agree with us, they just need public encouragement to develop a little backbone.

This is your role.

These bills will pass in the House, but we need to have as many votes against them as we can muster. This will help us in the Senate. Senate rules make it possible for us to stop these bills in that chamber. YOU need to make a BIG NOISE. And know this . . .

You won't be alone. We're working with more than a dozen national organizations to make this BIG NOISE.

We n eed to pull out all the stops. Please, PLEASE, pay close attention to these instructions. DO ALL FOUR OF THE FOLLOWING THINGS AS SOON AS YOU CAN!!!

1) Go to the DownsizeDC.org campaign opposing warrantless spying: "No Warrant? No Search." Send a message to your Senators and your Representative. Tell them to resist in every way they can the combination of this bill with the Tribunals bill. Urge them to do everything in their power to block, stop, and/or filibusters this bill. And if it still comes up for a vote, tell them to vote NO, and that you'll be watching. The message to Congress for this campaign has been reconfigured to make this easy for you.

2) Go to the DownsizeDC.org campaign opposing the new tribunals: "No Torture! No Ã¢â‚¬Å“Star Chamber Courts!" Send a message to your Senators and your Representative. T ell them torture is un-American, useless, and counter-productive. Urge them to keep the warrantless spying bill separate. Implore them to do everything they can to block, stop, and/or filibuster this bill. And if it still comes up for a vote, tell them to vote NO, and that you'll be watching. The message to Congress for this campaign has been reconfigured to make this easy for you.

3) We have a targeted list of Senators. If your Senator is on the list, it's urgent that you call and leave a message ASAP. Remember, this vote is scheduled for Tuesday. Tell them you're a constituent. Keep it short, simple, and polite. Make notes before you call. Make the points already made in #1 and #2 above. Here's the list . . .

Idaho - Larry Craig 202-224-2752
Rhode Island - Lincoln Chaffee 202-224-2921
South Dakota - Tim Johnson 202-224-5842
Louisiana - Mary Landrieu 202-224-5824
Michigan - Carl Levin &nb sp; 202-224-6221
Arkansas - Blanche Lincoln 202-224-4843
New Jersey - Robert Menendez 202-224-4744
Alaska - Lisa Murkowski 202-224-6665
Florida - Bill Nelson 202-224-5274
Nebraska - Ben Nelson 202-224-6551
Nevada - Harry Reid 202-224-3542
Maine - Olympia Snowe 202-224-5344
New Hampshire - John Sununu 202-224-2841

Remember, this is urgent. We're about to lose precious rights. We need extraordinary effort. So I want to ask you to do one more thing . . .

4) Tell everyone you know to do the same thing. Pass this message to friends, family, neighbors, co-workers, and customers. Maybe they'll think you're un-patriotic for opposing torture and for mistrusting politicians with such great powers. SO WHAT! And if you received this message from a friend, and it's not Wednesday, September 27, 2006 yet, there's still time. Act fast and then pass this message to everyone you know.

Keep in mind, you're not alone. And we can still win by blocking this in the Senate. The Senate is eager to get back home and campaign. Most observers believe they'll pack up and head home Saturday. Delay the vote and we may stop the danger.

DC Downsizers, rise up and take a stand for the 4th and 8th Amendments. Do your part. We're counting on YOU.

Jim Babka
President
DownsizeDC.org, Inc.

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yellowstonedogs

Act?... No (though my sister's house was broken into once)

Person?....No

Just lucky I guess!

ThatguyPete

Yes, every time I pay taxes...

Carol R

No, this makes no sense!!

chunkybunky

An illegal what?

nicole l

no i havent but my neighbor was raped in her car by 4 mexican men in a parking lot after she left her office and she is a 65 yr old woman she was so upset.

ChaChaChingThing

what the hell are you talking about?

happibun8

I have been a victim of theft, armed robbery, assault and check fraud. In each of these cases the person doing these awful things was a English-speaking, legal American.

What is your intent in asking such a question? Instead of performing a witch hunt to expose the dark side of immigration, intelligent people should do everything possible to sort out the hype. I'm not saying that immigrant crime doesn't exist. It does but everyone ought to investigate the facts before espousing hateful, incorrect ideas.

Steven B

Yes, Every time I pay my taxes, pay my doctor bill, & everytime I see a building or a street sign with spray paint on it, I feel like I'm being butt-raped by an NBA team.

TRUTHSEEKER

what are you talking about.

NecropolisXR

All Americans are victims of illegals.

1hunglo

every american is a victim of an illegal..........................

RORO

And we should also ask how many have been a victim of a legal Americans. Crimes are committed by illegals and legals..so whats with the silly question??

lowrider

Yes, every April when I send in my tax check.

lyn

NO. BUT I KNOW SOMEONE WHO WAS USED TO MARRY AND STAY IN THE COUNTRY, THEN HE LEFT HER.

Amy

illegal what?

jerofjungle

An illegal what?

retiredslashescaped1

No. Several have become friends.

Along the border, illegals take care of a lot of babies and also provide care for elderly people which often keeps them out of death prisons, thus extending their lives.

devildriver_667

Anyone that pays taxes is a victim. So yes. Can we blame this on the Beaners?

Zoe

Illegal alien or crime or what ?

One Sexy Jeep Girl

Yeah I got raped by one.

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