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How do illegals use public services?

I am genuinely curious, as it just doesn't make sense: how do all those illegal immigrants use government services (such as hospitals and schools) without being able to qualify or show proper documentation? There are so many that enroll their illegal children in public schools and nobody in admissions asks any questions? or going to a hospital with no social security number and no legal id, and still receiving full service - how does it work?


    




Kirch
Because to deny a child an education is a violation of the law regardless of their legal status. The Supreme Court decided that in Plyler v. Doe in 1982. A 5-to-4 majority found that for a state to deny a public education to a child based on their legal status is in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment, as illegal immigrant children are people "in any ordinary sense of the term", and therefore had protection from discrimination unless a substantial state interest could be shown to justify it. The children are here illegally most of the time because their parents brought them, so they really didn't have a choice. Denying them a proper education would likely contribute to the creation and perpetuation of a subclass of illiterates which in turn would add to the problems and costs of unemployment, welfare, and crime.

And to deny someone medical care would be the equivalent of doing them harm, which violates the Hippocratic Oath that every doctor takes. Plus it is law in some places that a person entering an ER cannot be denied care.


TG
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In most cases people turn a blind eye.

In the case of hospitals, they cannot turn anyone away whether they have insurance or not. If someone comes into a hospital that is bleeding to death and the hospital says "sorry you don't have insurance so we won't save your life." They get in huge trouble and they are held liable for the persons death.


Capitalist and proud of it
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I don't know about other states, but in CA, hospitals, schools, etc. are barred from requiring proof of citizenship. It's the law that they have to accept all residents, legal or not.

Thank the liberals for this and so much else that is ruining the country.


Agent Smith
They are protected under Federal laws.


Bobbi
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California voters ten years ago voted to not allow illegals to enroll kids in school. This, along with other government services and home buying. This was all ignored by the legislators, schools, and government agencies. It is like 'Oh, no. We can't deport them. What about the kids???" All a sob story. My family sacrificed, especially financially, to come to the USA. It disgusts me these illegals are trying to get their kids here more rights w/o following the proper guidelines.


youarewrongbobisright
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What many others have stated is true.

They get to go to our schools due to a supreme court ruling - which does not obligate us to allow them to stay, but just while they re here they are entitled to a taxpayer provided education at way over $10,000 per kid per year.

Hospitals must allow any person with an emergency treatment unless they are for profit and even then they risk substantial lawsuits for turning people away.

Social programs are different and it can depend what state you are in. Here in WA (a sanctuary state) workers are forbidden from asking immigration status. Plus in every state once they pump out a kid they are eligible for anything and everything.


Disneyland Guru
When you go to a hospital they are required by law to treat anyone. No license, ID, SS#, just don't pay the bill.

Schools are required to allow all kids regardless of legal status.

Illegal aliens come here and have kids, they then use those kids to get welfare and government aid.

They pay very little(if any) taxes, but use the roads, highways, government offices. All those things cost money and taxpayers foot the bill.


I.C.E. Man
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Take CA for example, their Mayor is Hispanic, the majority of the city council are hispanic and they are REFUSING to do anything about the ILLEGAL INVADERS coming into this country. Surf the web and will will find quotes and stories of these "elected officials" that we chose to "uphold" the law publicly supporting ILLEGALS adn trying their best to turn America in to Mexico.

As an American that is Married with children if I take my kids to the ER I am going to get a big bill. If I do not pay it they can sue me, lien my home, garnish my bank account and my wages.

An ILLEGAL INVADER can take their kid to the hospital and pay NOTHING! I am a tax payer adn an american citizen and I have to pay inflated hospital costs to offset the losses from the ILLEGALS.

This is just one of the MANY services that they use and abuse and we as AMERICANS have to pay for!!!


gomanyes
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Every state in the US has a law requiring all children to attend school regardless of immigration status. Schools are not allowed to request or check immigration documents.

Hospitals are a different matter. Those with emergency conditions must be treated regardless of legal status or ability to pay. For non-emergency matters, they may be declined services if they cannot pay, but immigration has nothing to do with it.


Ya heard me
Key word is "anchor babies" which they have plenty of and then mooch the welfare and tax payers to the full ability. They also qualify for free breakfast/lunch, uniforms, after school care and then pick their multiple children up in a nicer car then most employees, it is disgusting. If they get hurt or an ouchie they run to the E.R. and then do not pay the bill. This has caused many hospitals to go bankrupt. When they have their one kid a year, and one turns out with disabilities, guess who pays...it sure isn't them, it is the tax payers. What little they benefit the U.S. by the mens labor is nothing compared to what their total costs are.


ilovecookies!xD
well, hospitals, schools, etc.. do not require an ssn. so yes they can get services from hospitals and schools, but are not always given financial help because they have no ssn.

"anchor babies"? please people stop being so damn ignorant. these anchor babies no longer work as a means to stay in the country. illegals are now being deported regaurdless of their kids nationalities. they may choose to either bring them along to their home country or leave them in the care of someone else.

hmm it seems like people are assuming too much and giving pretty inaccurate answers on here...


GreasyTony
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They only use the LITTLE services they are eligible for....and that's VERY VERY FEW! They have been banned from Government Programs since 1996 when Congress passed (and President Clinton signed) the welfare-reform law known as the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act. From then on, only citizens or legal immigrants, such as those with a Green Card, were eligible for federal benefits.

Federal law also bars states and local governments from extending those benefits to undocumented immigrants.

Benefits for the Undocumented: the Exceptions

Few, narrow exceptions apply. For example, undocumented immigrants are eligible for certain emergency medical treatments. They may receive short-term disaster relief. They may be immunized against communicable diseases. They may be served at soup kitchens or seek refuge in homeless shelters. Children of undocumented immigrants may attend public schools. But those same children are not eligible for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which covers children of the working poor not eligible for Medicaid.

http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.cfm/undocumented_assumptions
Undocumented Aliens Do Not Overburden Government Programs


Elly G
well first of all the hippocratic oath is taken to secure that no one is denied their right to live. This county is one set on freedoms and the misconception is that the freedoms are only given to their citizens, but this is not true. America was set up by "illegal" immigrants who came to this country for the sole purpose of greed, so when you say illigals who are you refering to exactly? In the historical context, everyone in this country is illegal except for the natives. So to answer your question, they use the public services the same as we do. To get educated and to get healthy when sick, these rights are the ones awarded to all in the constitution and not just a select few!





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