How does the DREAM act reward criminal behavior?/?
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How does the DREAM act reward criminal behavior?/?
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i keep seeing people say the DREAM act will reward criminal behavior. how is this so when the children are not held accountable tell the age of 18 1/2? if the US does not count them as illegal immigrants until this age, then it can be said that no criminal act has been committed? so allowing them to earn legal status would not be rewarding criminal behavior or amnesty. the DREAM act allows them to EARN their legal status through education or serving this country through military service.
for those who want to say its rewarding the parents criminal behavior, i say to you this. we do not keep the children of bank robbers, rapist, murders, larcenist. or any other criminals from going to college, or keep them from being complete, productive members of society because it "rewards" their parents do we? so why should these kids lives, and future be subject to a decision that their parents made? and why should they not be able to fix it?
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H2o
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It doesn't! Nothing is Free under the Dream Act. the kids will just be able to attend college, but they'd still have to pay for it out of their own pockets.
If anything, the Dream Act would benefit the USA.
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The DREAM Act Fact Sheet
**The DREAM Act would help the United States meet our future labor needs.
Within the next ten years, there will be demand for 200,000 workers annually in computer related disciplines. Current rates show that American students fill only 56,000 of these.
The DREAM Act would increase revenue to state, federal, and local governments.
According to the 2002 Census Bureau, a high school graduate earns $1.2 million in a 40-year span compared to $2.1 million for a person with a Bachelor's degree. A person with a master's degree has an average earning of $2.5 million in a 40-year span.
**The DREAM Act is urgently needed for the talented youth graduating high school yearly.
Approximately 65,000 students graduate from U.S. high schools each year who have been in the United States more than 5 years, but face limited prospects for completing their education or working legally in the U.S. because they were brought here at a young age without immigration documents.
http://www.communitychange.org/our-projects/firm/our-work/the-dream-act/dream-act-fact-sheet |
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kaybee
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Understand one thing, from the day you entered the US illegally, regardless of age, you grew up KNOWING you were illegal. That comes as no surprise to you. Therefore, you can only PRETEND to be an American while REAL American Citizens have to pay a high price for out-of-state college tuition. The dream act would enable any illegal without an otherwise criminal record, to get the out-of-state tuition cost waived. By giving tuition breaks to illegals, you encourage more of them to come illegally. By giving tuition breaks to illegals, you give preferential treatment to people who were never welcomed into the USA over kids born in the USA who also want to go to college and need all financial aid they can get.
Now I ask you, would an American Citizen get a tuition break by attenting a Mexican College if they were in Mexico illegally?
In Mexico, they should regard Mexican Citizens more important than American Citizens. In USA, Americans need to come first. The hard truth is, you are not an American.
Now move 4 years ahead of this. Let's say you get that college degree. Good luck getting a job as an illegal. |
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THE GREATEST GODDESS JILL
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So anchor babies are not enough? A child brought in at an early age is also somehow entitled to the benefits of our society?
Sorry, that makes about as much sense as saying that that if you've been in posession of stolen property long enough, or if it was your parents who stole it, not you, that stolen property is rightfully yours. Tell me, do you think Mexico allows illegal immigration? Do you think a US citizen would be eligible for any government benefits in Mexico? Why even have a country if anyone can come in at will? Besides all the illegal immigration is also inherently unfair because it favors citizens from Mexico and other Central American nations. |
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mnwomen
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We have already educated these children at our expense. Neither their parents or them have paid for the education they have recieved so far. The taxpayers and their children have borne the burden already for education. Now they want more of a free ride. They want to be legal and go to college? Then go back home get legal and pay for their own college. Just like any American child has to pay for it. |
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Country Gal
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You just don't get it even when the facts are in front of you. The children are counted as illegal ALIENS. They are just not held accountable until they are over 18. So the dream act is rewarding illegal aliens who have decided to remain illegal and are now accountable for their criminal actions. Do bank robbers children get special privileges, no. So why should the children of these criminals. Why should they not take what education they have already gotten and use it to better their homelands. Am I suppose to have empathy for them. wrong. |
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ibu guru
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Bogus logic. Just because kids are not arrested for violating immigration laws, they are still here in violation of the law. Furthermore, their parents broke the law, and the parents are benefitting if their kids get subsidized tuition for school as are the kids themselves. Yes, the Dream Act would reward people for breaking the law. It would encourage more people to break the laws of this country. And it penalizes citizens who pay taxes and have already paid for these kids' elementary and/or high school educations, plus all the welfare, etc, they fraudulently collect for these kids.
As for being able to "fix" a situation their parents put them in, they already have more than one chance to rectify the situation. The parents could take their kids back to their own country. Or the kids can return to their own country before they turn 18, and their parents' illegal acts will not be held against them. They are not barred from returning to the US if they do so legally. Thus, if they qualify, they can get a student visa, etc, in the future.
There is NO way to rectify a wrong but to undo it, and that means return to their own country.
These arguments are only manipulations intended to milk the taxpayers for more money than they've already spent on these lawbreakers. It's a money-grab, pure and simple. |
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Ali Alexander
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We don't reward the children of bank robbers, etc., by giving them what the parents broke the law to get, do we? These children, however you cut it, are the responsibility of their PARENTS and it is up to their parents to figure out how to address the situation they created. And how is it "punishment" to send someone back to the country where they have citizenship and a legal right to be? If the parents can manage to come here illegally and often without knowing English, then why is it unreasonable to expect their child to be able to return to his homeland legally and very likely knowing the language. Furthermore, it is simply unfair to people who follow the law and wait to come here legally to give an advantage to someone who chooses, at age 18, to continue breaking the law. Recently, there have been a couple of cases here where the parents used young children to cover up shoplifting. Right now, the kids have the excuse that their parents taught them to shop lift, but at age 18, they're adults and THEY have responsibility for their own actions.
Tell you what--I'm willing to let these "kids" have an amnesty of sorts. They can return to their home country without a 3- or 10-year bar and apply to come here LEGALLY, just as any legal immigrant or student would. |
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Soylent Obama
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Because it is giving a benefit to people who shouldn't even be in this country. And it's a grave insult to the people who are here legally.
It's like giving Charlie Manson a new set of Beatles CDs, and as many nude pictures of Sharon Tate as are available.
It is a spit in the face of everyone who cares about this country. |
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Schaefer
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I agree with the two posters before me. It does not! It helps kids further their education. |
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Hotwater
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It does not!
It benefits the US by giving kids a chance to move ahead in life.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AM3u2ukqJ-0wJ%3Awww.nilc.org%2Fimmlawpolicy%2Fdream%2FEcon_Bens_DREAM%26Stdnt_Adjst_0205.pdf+the+dream+act+benefits&hl=en&gl=us
The Economic Benefits of the DREAM Actand the Student Adjustment Act
These young people deserve a fresh start, both in fairness to them and in our own self-interest. The pending legislation would address the issue in two ways: • by providing a mechanism for certain long-term resident immigrant students with goodmoral character to apply for legal residency so that they can work and otherwise fullyparticipate in their communities; and• by deleting a federal provision that interferes with a state’s right to determine whether thesestudents qualify as “residents” for purposes of in-state tuition or other state educationbenefits.■Impact on the EconomyREDUCED DROPOUT RATESThe DREAM Act would reduce the dropout rate of immigrant students. Foreign-bornstudents represent a significant and growing percentage of the current student population. Theproportion of foreign-born students in grades 6-12 increased from 1.7 to 5.7 percent from 1970to 1995. The children of undocumented immigrants are far more likely to drop out of high school thanare students who were born in the U.S. Immigration status and the associated barriers to highereducation contribute to this high dropout rate, which costs taxpayers and the economy billions ofdollars each year. The DREAM Act would eliminate these barriers for thousands of students. Beyond eliminating barriers, the DREAM Act’s high school graduation requirement wouldprovide a powerful incentive for students who have not yet achieved legal residency to remain inschool until graduation. The impact of such a requirement for legal residency is impossible toquantify, but would likely be huge.
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Luis
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It doenst. It helps kids succeed in life. These kids want to study and work hard. There are not lazy like spoiled american kids. |
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