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i just watched national geographics "border line" and had a huge debate. It was based on illegal immigrants from mexico successfully entering into the usa. They interviewed one man who came here illegally from mexico, and said he has a legal job which is taxed but all the taxes belongs to our government which he cant collected. this blew my mind, how can that be? anyways the debate was if this was possible.


    




Yoda
The TRUTH is an illegal alien cannot legally reside in the United States.

The TRUTH is an illegal alien cannot legally work in the United States.

The TRUTH is it doesn't matter whether they "pay taxes" or not.

The TRUTH is identity theft is rampant among illegal aliens with millions of very real victims of this identity theft.

The TRUTH is ITIN numbers are not intended for illegal aliens. They are intended for those that are otherwise qualified to work in the United States or have the need to file income taxes but do not qualify for a SS #.

I cut and pasted this directly from the IRS website.

Are ITINs valid for work purposes?
No. ITINs are for federal income tax purposes only. Getting an ITIN does not change your immigration status or your right to work in the United States.

"Educate" yourself with the IRS link.


Sweetharttt
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Because he is being tax leads me to believe he has stolen, false, documents, and is working illegally. An illegal alien committing yet another crime.

Save the U. S. of A. Round up and deport.


Geri42
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When an illegal immigrant comes to this country they buy fake papers including a fake social security number, so they can work. Often the fake #s that they buy are the SS# of a deceased American. In which case, if they attempted to file taxes the IRS would know immediately that the SS# is fake. So, yes, the employer withholds taxes and Social Security, but the illegal can't file for a rebate without getting caught and (hopefully) deported.

So if the IRS tracks SS#s seems to me it would be a simple matter for employers to check the legal status of their new hires. So it's not clear to me how the number of illegal immigrants grew into millions... We have laws to curb this. They just aren't being enforced.


whiz
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It is not possible. Paying taxes doesn't exempt you from the law. It's a crime to be in this country illegally and it's a crime to work here illegally.

LOTS of criminals "pay taxes". It doesn't pardon your crimes.

BTW

MOST illegal criminal aliens don't pay taxes...and so what if they did??????????

Even if 90% of their income went toward taxes, they are STILL here illegally and STILL working here illegally.


towanda
Illegals purchase papers. They steal your social security number and identity theft is rampant. They can totally get you screwed up with the IRS. Most often they use a friends social security number or simply work for cash. Interesting but they can underbid legal companies that pay employer taxes and reasonable salaries. To have a legal job cannot happen without illegal papers or giving false information. You are supposed to have to sign documents when you are employed and they are to prove that you are a legal resident and, here in Texas, you have to have your information reported to child welfare authorities too. That's how Walmart and all those companies further north employ illegals and then claim they had no idea. . . and gee, nobody spoke any English. . .And you need to be by the border on the day to pick up checks from one welfare agency or another. Actually live in Mexico and cross to pick up our generosity and stupidity. And there is a way to check that social security numbers actually belong to the person that's using it, but no one bothers to check.


gitchaglowstix
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Last I checked any employer hiring illegal immigrants is in big trouble mister!


Kat M
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because there is no limit to the crimes that illegals will commit. he would have either had to steal or buy a social security number, another crime, and with this you can bet he is filing taxes. also many illegal invaders at tax time get itin numbers and file taxes. they usually are lower income and qualify for the earned income credit in which the get more taxes than what they pay in. do not let anyone tell you they pay into taxes and do not collect. more taxpayers money going into these criminals pockets, disgusting!
Report and Deport.

this is happening less with the e-verify system becoming more popular, one ray of hope.


Micky....the resurrection
Most illegals work under the table and don't pay taxes. The few that do are using a stolen social security number. They are also able to to take out car loans,home loans etc. with stolen numbers and end up leaving innocent people in a great amount of debt.


surferchick
illegal immigrants work under the table, in order to work you have to show proof of legal residency. employers must proove legal residency of all their employees. the worker was either lying or midlead because his employer isn't actually paying taxes on him


Joel W
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It can happen when some one steals your identification. Once that is done, you are extremely vulnerable to criminal assault, but so long as that person wants to remain in this country and do that job, they cannot claim their taxes because they would have to prove they are the person from whom they stole the identification.

It is really important for everyone to check their Social Security numbers because if that man wanted to run up a huge debt and go back to Mexico, you would be involved in a mess that would require years to clean up, and possibly never be cleaned up.

There is a social security office in your home town. Go to it, and make sure no one has stolen your I.D.
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Finally, I want to point out that it is far less expensive to live in Mexico as long as you are not in the resort areas. Many Mexicans with jobs and illegally in this country, have every intention of going home. It is very dangerous for the person whos I.D. has been stolen, and it is criminal to allow the Federal Government to .. not.. enforce the law.

Tell someone.
http://www.congress.org


Docar
It is estimated that approximately 2 million illegal aliens work and pay taxes in the US. These people pay $9 billion dollars on taxes! That figures out to $4,500 per person who are making $12,000 a year! The tax rate on $12,000 is $899 per year! Somewhere the figures do not add up. Or maybe it's this new math.


JW.C
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The illegal in question was lying. They do not get taxed, because they can't report taxes and earning for an illegal or they get fined.


ProUSA2
He CANNOT have a "legal" job in the U.S. It is a CRIME to hire an illegal criminal alien and it's a CRIME to work in our country if you are here illegally. Period.


milt560
The illegals should be deported so they can work LEGALLY in their home countries!!!


Aztec
He was not lying. They get fake SSN and get to work. Believe it or not those numbers actually work. So on every pay check, their employers deduct taxes, but during tax period the workers cannot file taxes because those SSN do not exist. Hence all the taxes that were deducted from their check go to the government. Billion of dollars in taxes are unclaimed every year like that... I wonder what the government does with all that...


madreoffour
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Have any of you guys seen a illegals paycheck??? YES THEY DO PAY TAXES. I am so sick and tried of people on here saying No they dont pay taxes they drain the system. That is FALSE FALSE FALSE. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth. Most you guys are WRONG!

There is so much uneducated answers I see on here its no wonder for the misinformation. Then you people get mad when someone corrects you because your too narrow minded to see the truth.


Der Schreckliche
Well, in the usa things don't make sense, you know


hungryhustler
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Who ever said they don't get taxed how would you know? Its not hard to tax them if there not its cause of Bush, he wants to take advantage of them when really there there doing the jobs all you dumb americans are to lazy to do. Mexicans work twice as hard as all of you and don't call me racist or a Mexican I'm an american and I'm speaking the truth.


Soozie Q
Hold the phone here! You mean this guy had taxes taken out of his check and the government kept it and he took home what little was left??!! Welcome to America, Buddy! There hasn't been an immigrant in my family for generations and they have done the same thing to us! But if you can figure out how to get it back, let me know too! In the meantime, just keep working your butt off for measley wages since the "Americans" who gripe the most about it don't work at all because they wouldn't lower themselves to flipping burgers at McDonalds.

Like I said, I honestly don't care if the dude is over here working a job that fat **** "natives" are too lazy to do, but now fair is fair: I have to pay taxes, so do you. I have to pay for my health care, so do you. And I'm not learning spanish, I don't care how much of those taxes they take out of your check illegally!


GreasyTony
It sure is possible! and most illegal immigrants don't claim taxes becasue they are afraid of getting caught and deported. Illegal Immigrants pay BILLIONS......YES! BILLIONS in taxes every year, and all that stays in the Government's system. Those taxes help pay for Social Security checks and Medicare. With more baby boomers retiring, all that money is sure going to help.

http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060501.shtml
Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think

The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.

Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume.

The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don't want here in the first place.

Illegal immigrants pay taxes, too
http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2008/04/10/20080410biz-TaxingImmigrants-10.html

Illegal immigrants pay billions in taxes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2002202/posts





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