Immigrants are taking all the jobs...?

edita

Before you all begin passing judgment, don't forget that your ancestors were immigrants unless you're "Indian." So stop moaning and groaning about "illegal" immigrants. If America were in serious economic, political, etc. problems, you would want to go to any country that can take you in. But, I guess, when you're not faced with it, you cannot understand. Once again, everyone needs to grow up. Most of you sound pathetic and your reasoning is appalling.

If you don't have a job, is because you do not want one bad enough. Anyone can get a job; people need to be realistic. Sometimes people get a "lower" job until they find something better. That has nothing to do with immigrants.

And being an "immigrant," I can proudly say that I am far more educated than some of you who post some ignorant remarks. Being an immigrant does not make me inferior to any of you. As a matter of fact, my family has been university educated for at least 7 generations. But I guess, some peoples' sheer ignorance can get the better of them.

Hotch

Immigrants will work for far less money than a citizen of the country would expect, they will also work without the benefits.
The farmers in this country will employ an immigrant over a UK citizen for those purposes, most of them freely admit to it. Bernard Matthews employs mostly Polish immigrants because they are cheap labour.

You really ought to do more homework on this before antagonising people.

Sweetharttt

The illegal criminal aliens are being paid under the table at a much lower rate than an American used to be paid. Many of those jobs were held by high school and college students....

Again, ILLEGALS are the problem and must be deported.

jen <3's random Bs

Didn't you read about Wal-mart hiring illegals? So, the answer is yes. Who picks the produce? Illegals. Would they hire me to do it? Hell no b/c I'd demand proper pay b/c I' m a legal citizen.
* btw I'm also white and I've had jobs before that include dishwashing. My cousins picked blueberries for 3 yrs. So, not all Americans are lazy. That's called a stereotype.

Roggles

what you say completely overlooks the black economy the dodgy employment agencies and work gangs.

You can interpret statistics in so many ways and manipulate them accordingly.

I agree with you there are jobs out there, if you will take any job to start, i could go out tomorrow and find work but would it be a quality job that would feed my family , pay the rent, no it would be a low paid, part time or casual.

and its supply and demand the employers will only pay what they can get away with never mind the minimum wage. if an immigrant will do the job cheaper the employer will take them, loyalty, employment law, over profit i think not.

So another side to your argument should be are immigrants who will accept less pay driving down the value of jobs that are available, myth or reality?

JustSayNo

When American companies announce they are ending the practice of hiring illegal aliens or are raided and the illegals removed, Americans line up for the jobs. Pilgrim's Pride announced layoffs of all with questionable or no status and had no trouble hiring Americans. They also raised starting wages, which just said...yes, they were hiring illegals to save money.

The Voice of Reason

Easy now, remember there are many versions of the truth. While yours is one supported by many political type's, it is not viewed to be complete by many who study the issue.

Your point about the UK is mute. We are a totally different country with a different economy.

The illegals find jobs so easily because most are paid lower wages and are exploited. They can't complain for fear of being deported.

God bless America! We will prevail.

steddy voter

The ugly truth is that some Americans care more about the dollar than fellow countrymen. There is a company, 2 miles down the road from me, that gets fined at least once a year for hiring illegal aliens. Over and over it happens... and yet somehow, they are still in business and they keep doing it.

Its not for a lack of citizen labor, either. We have many unemployed people around here, actively looking for work. Its just that the company prefers paying under the table, without benefits or insurance for the employees.

wish4b13

Another pro-illegal rant. Awwww.....boring and a waste of space amigo.

Mystery

in britain, retailers open admit on television that they employ polish people or other immigrants because they will accept less wages and work harder.

i don't have an opinion on this, it's just what i've seen from watching the news.

trigga1uk

Well in my area, (the south east) all the jobs we did as 17-18 year olds are now being done by polish and the people in their late teens are having trouble finding work during off periods of education.

-the money is not being recycled in our economy

-some poles are claiming child benefit for children in Poland

-Why do they all bring their own cars over (no tax, mot etc)

And please stop addressing the immigration from a simple economic stand point -
East anglia has had it by all accounts, there are large polish ghettos forming. It is simply to much. the country is already overcrowded as all the talk about building more houses.

I agree with the poster about our own lazy buggers. We need to get the lazy scumbags off their arses and into work - but that is the fault of the welfare state that gives them no reason to go and find work. Im sure there is some dangerous liberal we can blame for that.

And a final note to think about. Whats that thing about positive discrimination in regards to employment?

serenely, soMEone

In the U.S., entire industries are being hi-jacked by illegals of ONE language base. It's all about numbers and control and has nothing of conscience or human concern at its root. Yes, aliens are negatively affecting the economy in a HUGE way.

As for your stats: links, please.

The word 'skeptic' always has at least one "k", ... k?

The saddest part of all is that permitting it to continue helps no one for the long term. See this for clarification:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

Pat Fortam

Not exactly true. If an immigrant is willing to work for $5.00 an hour and a "countryman" wants $15.00 then who do you think will get the job?
Farm workers in California get paid like 20.00 a day! If they are illegal it is even less. Many people will work these jobs if paid a live able wage.

kenneth w

Maybe there not fussy what hours they work or what they do. I know some poles who work in a factory near where i work and they work all hours. they seem to live there. but they don't they have got a house i know. us brits are'nt lazy. we're not the immigrants. bye bye

LadyMoonlight!!

Studying and getting skills does not automatically lead to a good salary - tell that to all the graduates in the UK working in callcentres as there aren't enough graduate jobs for them!

As for "there are jobs out there for anyone who wants one" and "immigrants can find them", yes you're right - there is plenty of casual work or 20 hours a week at Â£5.35 per hour. That is not going to help a man who has a mortgage to pay and a family to support now is it?!

But the availability of all these immigrants means that employers are now paying minimum wage for a job that should be worth Â£10 an hour. They know that labour is plentiful and easy to find because of the flood of immigration so why pay more? So men are trying to support their families on Â£5.35 an hour. My other half works 70 hours a week at minimum wage!

How dare you suggest that British people are "lazy"? You are a stupid bigot!

Commandant Marcos

Can't argue with that, now lets concentrate our united stand against illegal aliens.

LPW

You say "I can hear heads exploding ... the truth must hurt"
The truth is YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THE TRUTH IF IT WAS CHISELED ON YOU FOREHEAD
So please go back to your make believe world where you can play king of the castle or what ever it is people like you do

GIZMO THE CAT

in the uk my pay as a fully qualified communications engineer dropped a third overnight because of polish workers flooding the country.I understand people trying to better themselves but when given council houses ahead of british nationals they do not have the morgage payments or bills i do.Thats why i have been forced to pay Â£10000 to retrain in another career in the hope of keeping up to date with the ever mounting bills this factist labour government are imposing on us.Low crime figures have also jumped because our useless lazy police force(sorry police service,social workers)will not act against immigrants drink driving,not taxing cars,etc.

wonderingstar

they do when british workers strike, look at royal mail at the moment our town is full of immigrant agency workers all because of a back log of post

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/display.var.1633369.0.anger_over_massive_mail_backlog.php

an example of comments from link
"Yesterday there were four, yes four, temporary post deliverers on my road. None spoke English, they were looking at the road signs and their post, totally confused. The Royal Mail management is trusting our mail, containing as reported here, bank cards, important documents to temporary untrained staff. What security checks have been carried out on these temporary staff ?
The RM Regional Director needs to be on the front page of the WO telling us how he is going to fix this appalling situation, his mismanagement has bought about. Let's have some management accountability."

Oswald W

The Type of Immigrants entering and staying in Britain are Not the types of People any country would readily choose to accept for permanent settlement .They get in here because Our Government cannot control the influx. They are unfortunately people who need Safety/and a welfare state that would oversee their needs. Who in their right minds would not want to land up in the UK. Desperate to get established these people would readily work for low wages and no employment protection. British shady employers know that and they exploit them. These very same people will one day in the future blame Britain for turning a blind eye to permitting this to go on .Our politicians are more interested in serving their Party group rather than People .Labour today is Not for the worker. The Conservatives are anti-Unions and the Lib-De ms do not have the clout .There are no credible alternatives at present. We already are ruled by Fear of taking rightful action against an army of fifth Columnists.I really feel Britain has lost its way .It is not just the Natives who are saying this. Even the Newcomers have sensed our weaknesses and mock British Values in private.

leowin1948

It sounds foolish.Why the Govt cannot deport illegal immigrants?If the immigrant is legal why you should blame him?Who selected him?Who approved his entry?Immigrant problem is due to higher wage rates above international level or due to lack of qualified in the country.It is the Govt to be blamed.

Red Trooper

FACTS can you provide links, or your rant is nil and void.

Bruce Wayne.

i don't think they are taking all the jobs,but they are taking all the houses. When i walk around my town it makes one feel like you'r visiting another country. cos we are becoming the minority. Thats why on the news they say people leaving this country is at it's highest level, who can blame them? this countries gone to pot, & if we dare say anything we are classed as racist by the dogooders and pc bridgade.

Trace

I think they take the majority of the jobs,it's easier for them to get a job,even when they have no qualifications or have never worked before,or even when they can't hardley speak english.When we go for a job they wanna know about qualifications,experience and that.

yaboo

The immigrants do horrible jobs for wages most of us would not consider..Its the only way we can compete with the likes of China.

jenkin1950

I know a fair few immigrants. The reason they get jobs is that they are prepared to work for the minimum wage. Some of the tales of their exploitation are dreadful. But I know quite a number of UK citizens who won't take jobs because the pay is the minimum wage! They want more, they expect more, so they sit on their backsides doing nothing. Why not turn it around and get UK citizens to go to Eastern Europe and try to find work? What do you mean by 'normal citizens'?

gordon3392

they only do the jobs know one else will do for peanuts,,,,

gelstonbabe

You are so right, there are jobs out there if people are willing to work but people can be so picky. Immigrants just want to work and dont mind what they do and they work hard. In their countries most of them have no benefits to rely on so dont eat if they dont work.

joewpamerica

I think illegals get the kind of job americans dont want to do, for example a 20 year old american should not be working on somebody else yard because he sould be atending collegue, but the illegal 20 years old dont have that oportunity because of his status.Just think about this is 20 more years the children of that illegal alien are going to be in collegue fighting for their future and that lazy guy fighting for a yard work its going to be in the same situation, with respect. Me. sorry about the errors on the spell.

psyclone

its just that nobody wants the jobs the immigrants are taking. and were blamming them for taking our jobs when they aren't. Im sure if an american went and asked for a job and he was qualified they would hire he but nobodys doing that because no american wants to do that. Its so simple to just go to your local mcdonalds or taco bell and ask for a job and probably get hired.

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