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Is it fair to say that people who want ALL illegals deported immediately....?
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Is it fair to say that people who want ALL illegals deported immediately....?

and ignore the fact that the country would go in a downward spiral if that were to happen, don't really care about the rest of us Americans?

Are their emotions towards immigrants getting in the way of rationalization?
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I know the economy is pretty bad right now, but it would only get worst if this happens when:

Illegal immigrants' value to economy? $1.8 trillion
http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/archives/2008/05/post_128.html

ICE: Tab to remove illegal residents would approach $100 billion
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/deportation.cost/index.html

Illegal worker crackdown would cost employers $1B
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-04-24-3091305939_x.htm


    




Cold Hard Fact
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They are xenophobic nationalists who have absolutely zero understanding of how much immigration helps America's economy, competitiveness around the world, Social Security Programs, the cost of living, and the multicultural origins that made the US what it is today.

They have no understanding of how much it would cost people to simply round them up and kick them out.

They just don't get it, because they are blinded by their own ignorance.


Me-owww
Dude, where have you been? Under your rock? We are already in a downward spiral, there are plenty of unemployed legal citizens looking for work right now, who i am sure would take jobs they normally would not take.


Lurch
Explain how the country would go in a downward spiral. It seems to me that it would open up a lot of jobs for legal Americans. A low paying job is better than no job at all. By the way, it's not about emotion, it's about the law and logic.

Alex, to most of us it's not about race. I don't care if an illegal is European, Hispanic, Asian or Canadian. What part of "illegal" don't people understand?


richer_than_you1971
downward spiral to deport non tax paying criminals in this country illegally?

I think not


catmaninmo II
No, but it is fair to say, the illegal aliens have contributed to the downward spiral the US IS in! Lets give it a whirl and just see what happens... .Deport the asap!


rogue
Illegals drained our economy.Look at California with 40 billions in debt.We pay huge sums for healthcare for them,education and crimes etc.On top of that they take dollars out of the economy to send home and we have no way of recuperating that loss.America is being drained.


zapper23
Exactly....what downward spiral are you speaking of? That my glass of orange juice might be a little more expensive? I don't consider that a downward spiral.


shera_42
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I don't think it would put our country into a downward spiral at all. What exactly are they doing for our country that would allow for that? Anyway, I guess we could start with saving money on all prison inmates and quit giving them all a free education which costs lots of extra money because of the bilingual programs.


Ali A
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Try reading the Heritage Foundation report concerning the 2007 amnesty bill that failed. Amnesty would have cost us $2 TRILLION.
Not to mention what we already pay in services to illegal aliens.

You might also note that the cost of legalizing illegal aliens would be prohibitively expensive as well as compromising national security. We haven't the resources to properly process LEGAL immigrants, so how do you think we'd ever manage 20 million illegal aliens who have been working illegally under false or stolen identities? The security checks alone would break the bank. At $5,000 per, that alone would come close to the $100 billion ICE says removal would cost. Of course, most of us want employer sanctions enforced, so that illegal aliens will self-deport, thereby saving us the cost.

If illegal aliens are such a boon to the economy, how come "immigrant" heavy states such as California are going down the tubes more quickly than others?

Oh, your previous post on another thread about the financial contributions of "immigrants" conflates legal immigrants and illegal aliens.

But the simple fact is, illegal aliens are law breakers. There's a saying, "Begin as you mean to go on." Illegal aliens don't get off to a good start in breaking the laws of a country they supposedly want to be a part of.


Bill in Kansas
The key word in this question is ILLEGAL

Why should we continue to allow people to break the law and then reward them by never acting upon the existing law?

These people are a burden on our economy. Have you ever been to an emergency room? They are full of people who don't speak a word of English and have no insurance. Thus they are also a burden on on health care system. And since they have no way, or intention, to pay they drive up the cost of health care for those of us who are citizens and do have to pay.

This is not about racism is is about law, and lawlessness. These people need to be sent packing. PERIOD!


Proud to be an AMERICAN
No, it is not fair at all.

Justice needs to be done no matter the economic consequences (which I dispute in any event).

I would not have to wait for an "economic impact study" before ending slavery, and don't need one here.


Evie B
Your assumption is a Myth. Most of us on the Pro law-enforcement side only want us to Secure the Border, Take away the Magnets that draw the Illegals here, and Enforce our Laws!

If we were to do those things then most of the illegal aliens would self deport. We would still need to deport any that are caught here illegally but by and far most would simply go back to their Country of Origin.

The rest of your assumptions are also Myths in that the American economy would flourish with the burden of 20-30 million illegal aliens lifted from our backs.

No one is advocating the overnight deportation of over 20 million illegal aliens that is the Myth Propagated by the anti-law enforcement side.


No Amnesty
Hey Im just curious about one of your sources...

Where do the ILLEGALS get the 1.8 Billion they pump into the economy????Ohhhh thats right, they have to take it out of the economy first right??? So would it be fair to say that had an American made that money it would still be spent in US economy?


GunnyC
Well the economic impact might be lessened if people collecting unemployment and government subsidies were placed in those job openings and told if they didn't want to do that it is alright but all benefits are cut off if you don't take it or get fired for misbehavior or lack of performance. Unemployment would go down, American citizens would have jobs and the opportunity of advancement and happiness. I really don't care what race the illegal immigrents are so it is not racist-it is simply put they are criminals by definition being illegal aliens (they are not undocumented citizens or undocumented workers) the word in front should be illegal since the reason they are undocumented is that they violated the law when they came here. The round up and deportation could be handled by the Civilian Security Force that President Obama talked about in his July 2008 speech about volunteers.


rlstaehle
E-verify is being used in 8 states that I know of, and in the states that have had it in place for more than a year have reported a drop in unemployment rates. Also, some of those states are using it in social services with a drop in recipients.
Any business that have lost their employees to immigration raids, have been more than able to replace them in short order with citizens looking for jobs.
You, and you profit monger buddies are selling U.S. citizens short to prove a point. You seem to do so because of racial bias. The profit mongers because they don't want to pay a decent wage.


Sasori
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I really don't care what it would cost employers since they are a part of the problem and have been making money hand over fist using illegal labor.
It won't cost a dime to deport. Take away incentives, jobs, welfare, education, and uphold the 14th and they will leave on their own.
As far as the $1.8 trillion value to our economy." Divide $1.8 by 8.1 million illegals and that equals nearly 1/4 million dollars each illegal per year." They earn all this mowing lawns, picking fruits and veggies, and busing tables, hm mm. Plus they manage to wire $26 billion dollars to MX, alone. The math doesn't add up.


John S
NO it is not fair to say, neither is it accurate. Your assumption that the country "would go down in a spiral" is baseless. What were you thinking?


mimi
Mr Greasy Im willing to take my chances of us here in the US going down if it means getting these free loaders off of my tax paying back.Yea I think it would be a great idea to send them all back and if we need them then we will make a decision on who gets to come and be a productive member of our great coun


whadda ya think ...
Yupper... I'm thinking it's fair to say this...think that.. and feel that..


Alex C
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There more racist than anything... they have trouble accepting everything that is in their normal fix on the world. Most likely views passed on from their parents





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