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Is the undocumented workers only sin to want a better life for their families?
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Is the undocumented workers only sin to want a better life for their families?



    




yars232c
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No. Wanting a better life for their families is NOT a reason to come here.

Coming here to be American with our English and flag, etc is.

Coming here for a better life for thier families and turning their communities into Mexico is INEXCUSABLE.


Leogirl0804
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Do it in their own country. Their SIN is breaking the laws of MY country. They may be bettering the life of their family, but they are doing it at MY families expense. I'm not liking that so much.......
Good try though......


Hold em Rox.
"undocumented worker" LMAO honey you mean ILLEGAL ALIEN!!! And to answer the question it's not a sin, but is it too much to ask these border jumpers to do it legally??? All illegals need to be deported!! They are ruining this country, economically, socially and ecologically. (think about it, it's all a domino effect) We have immigration laws/ policies for a reason, this country can only take in so much before we are overloaded (like we are now) this will reek havoc on us in the long run..environmentally speaking.


beba
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yes they do, i know alot of friends that dont have document n all they do is work, there goal is to send money to there family in there country so they can have a better life. n i also know alot of people who have there document n all they do is live from the welfare.


Andrew B
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Check out the DEA's website and your local pedophile watchpage and keep spewing that sentimental crap. Try going down to mexico and tell them you crossed the border illegally and demand that they provide you with free schooling, healthcare, and basically cater to your every desire. See how far that gets you, I would say 20 or so years.


Zoe
Is the Americans workers only sin to want a better life for their families?


akablackbetty
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theres sins are, breaking the law, by coming here. living off welfare that they dont deserve. selling drugs, rapeing,stealing,killing people.this countrys sin against its citizens is letting them get away with it.


someonecanbme
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have you asked them? i have not.


Yo!
We all are subject to the laws of the land we are in.

They are in a land which says they should not be here.

The rest of us know that if/when we break the law...if caught...we will pay the fine/do the time.

Are illegals entitled to live above the law?


As for their sins?...you'd have to check with their priest, but I don't think he's allowed to tell you.


kimberly0627
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Everyone wants a better life. The drug dealer may sell drugs to feed his family but we still put them in jail. they broke the law. For a better life or not. Illegal is still illegal.


hexa
No they came into a sovereign nation without permission, and that is illegal in every country, and they are costing the American tax payer billions. This is a nation of laws and the laws have to be enforced, just like Mexico enforces the laws. They need to apply and come legal like every immigrant, what gives them the right to break the law. Just type in ( the high cost of illegal immigration) and you will find dozens of web sites.

PS. they also have a responsibility when they come (legally) to assimulate into our society and be an American if they don't want to learn English and fly our flag then stay home.


Ricky
What is an undocumented worker?? Do you mean illegal alien? I don't know that they committed a sin, I do know that they broke the damned law though....


joeandhisguitar
so does every other sinner.


Tonatiuh
Jessica is stupid... but to answer your question:

yes.... of course they want a better life-

most who come over are poor and will never be able to afford the price of becoming a legal citizen in the united states and when you don't have enough money to feed your kids and support your family yet you are working 60 hours per week making almost nothing..... you tend to look at any viable options unfortunately..... that includes leave all the you know and risking your life to try to make a livable wage in the u.s.a. they don't care about respecting the laws of this country..... not because they are sinners but because if you had to choose between feeding your children or watching them die..... the decision would be quite simple wouldn't it????


sam04m
Even if they want a better life for their family, which I can understand. How can they think they are giving their family a better life when the first thing they do is ILLEGAL. That is not the way to teach your kids. Then the kids will grow up thinking its ok to do things the wrong way. If course the way our gov/t sees it, they can just come on over and the USA will take care of them and pay their bills. They can just sit back and have kids or steal identities etc. I know they are not all bad and their are some honest, hard working people just like any race but they must enter legally. Their is a right and wrong way to do things. No in between. Take care.


Jessica
Every person for illegal immigration should be forced to compensate these innocent people who have had their social security numbers and identities stolen by these illegals who invade our country with no care who they hurt. They should have to not only compensate the money lost from their social security accounts after they are zeroed out once the fraud is detected, but every last cent the victims had to pay taking time off work, every cent that went into photocopying documentation, every cent that went towards lawyers and gas driving somewhere to get this mess taken care of, and any other financial expenditure the victim had to cough up. They should also be forced to compensate the victims for the emotional hardships endured. They should have to compensate for the money and time spent trying to straighten out their credit ratings after these illegals have ruined them. They should be forced to compensate these victims for every single hardship related to what these illegals have inflicted upon these people. Currently, the system does not provide any compensation at all and a lot of people are never restored to previctimization status. Oh but these pro-illegals claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime that hurts no one and that we are whining when we complain.

'Total purgatory' for taxpayers
Frustration can mount for victims of this kind of fraud. Eventually, the government agencies involved do catch up with the legitimate consumers; but often, not until they are looking for money. Victims can have trouble getting disability or unemployment benefits. The government doesn’t try to alert victims of their victimizations, they usually find out by chance when they’ve been victimized further.
Other victims find the Internal Revenue Service on their backs, looking for payment of back taxes for wages earned by their imposters. Some see refunds held up by the confusion; others see their wages garnished.
Victims find themselves in a financial nightmare. All those imitators make a mess out of their work histories, Social Security benefits records and credit reports. Victims are haunted by bills and creditors. Victims receive threatening letters from the IRS, asking to pay taxes on money earned by these illegal Mexican colonizers. Victims are told to re-pay unemployment benefits they had received, after the government discovers they were "working" while drawing benefits when it was really these illegal Mexican invaders all along.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6814673

You think these illegals care that they are hurting innocent lives? Their loyalty is to Mexico. They proved that during one of the first rallies when they took down the American flag, hung up the Mexican flag, and then hung the American flag upside down underneath it. THAT is how they feel about America.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htm


Then the people who want to appease them pull out the excuses about how people who are not even alive now, and haven't been for hundreds of years, 'stole' the land from the American Indians. Even American politicians are carrying out this traitorous attack on our sovereignty! If this keeps up, the United States of America will become a 3rd world country, just like Mexico! Mexico's problems are not the fault of Americans, but they are becoming our problems because the Mexicans are invading us and bringing their problems with them.

The illegals make up about 5 % of the work force. The unemployment rate is about 4.5%. Keep in mind that the unemployment rate does NOT represent everyone who is unemployed. It only counts those who are collecting unemployment. Everyone else's plight is ignored. The unemployment rate if everyone was counted would be tremendous. We do NOT have a shortage of labor, we have a large surplus. The more illegals that come in and take our jobs at minimum wage or less (often less) puts more and more Americans out of a job. Most of these Americans are never counted in the unemployment rate if they do not manage to get unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are hard to receive.

Illegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits.

The illegals get welfare by stealing social security numbers and identities and using false papers. Therefore, the time limits under the Clinton welfare reform doesn't apply to them because once the time limit is up, all they have to do is get new stolen social security numbers and identities and false papers and start all over again. American citizens who draw welfare are limited to the time limits from the welfare reform and are then cut off. American citizens who fall on hard times and have to turn to welfare assistance have a harder time finding jobs that pay enough to live off of because the illegals have taken jobs and depressed the wages of those jobs still available to American citizens. Therefore, those in the lower working class are highly unlikely to ever be able to "work their way up" since the opportunities have been stolen which will entrap these people into poverty with little to no way out.

My family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.

They not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them.

I am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years.

"Mexico is waging war on the U.S. through mass immigration illegal and legal, through the assertion of Mexican national claims over the U.S., and through the subversion of its laws and sovereignty, all having the common end of bringing the southwestern part of the U.S. under the control of the expanding Mexican nation, and of increasing Mexico’s political and cultural influence over the U.S. as a whole.

Cultural imperialism

We experience Mexico’s assault on our country incrementally—as a series of mini-crises, each of which calls forth ever-renewed debates and perhaps some tiny change of policy. Because it has been with us so long and has become part of the cultural and political air we breathe, it is hard for us to see the deep logic behind our “immigration problem.” Focused as we are on border incursions, border enforcement, illegal alien crime, guest worker proposals, changes of government in Mexico City, and other such transient problems and events—all of them framed by the media’s obfuscation of whether or not illegal immigration’s costs outweigh its benefits and by the maudlin script of “immigrant rights”—we don’t get the Big Picture: that the Mexican government is promoting and carrying out an attack on the United States.

Another reason we miss what’s happening is that our focus is on the immigrants as individuals. Thus our leaders talk about illegal immigrants as “good dads,” “hard working folks” seeking to better their lives and their family’s prospects. In fact, this is not about individual immigrants and their families, legal or illegal. It is about a great national migration, a nation of people moving into our nation’s land, in order to reproduce on it their own nation and people and push ours aside.

Thus, in orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state is representing the desires of the Mexican people as a whole.

What are these desires?

(1) Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories Mexico lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliations they feel they have suffered at our hands for the last century and a half;

(2) Cultural imperialism—to expand the Mexican culture and the Spanish language into North America; and especially

(3) Economic parasitism—to maintain and increase the flow of billions of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system cocooned in its status quo. "

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21309


sealRborders
They are NOT "undocumented workers"!!!! They are ILLEGAL aliens!!! They are CRIMINAL LAWBREAKERS,who have broken our laws by SNEAKING into this country,who use STOLEN and FAKE i.d.'s to work, (which is a FELONY)!!!!!!
Why do THEY deserve MORE consideration than OUR poor people,when they are NOT even citizens??!!! We have poor people in THIS country, who "only want a better life for their familys"!!! And,our LEGAL citizens DESERVE our help,illegals do NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


johncondo2001
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good point and good question


cmeand3
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I would have to say that the majority of people that have been following this ILLEGALS debate all night agree

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is a huge majority at that.
We aren't talking about God and Sin and hand jolding and cooing like a freaking baby to them

ILLEGAL ILLEGAL ILLEGAL ILLEGAL

THAT IS THE WORD THAT YOUR HEARD!!!!!!!!!!1


renegadesho_ban
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Why don't you do us all a favor and stop asking these stupid questions.


Aegis of Freedom
Ummm, no. Their sin is BREAKING THE LAW!!!!!!!!!

We want immigrants, immigration is good. But there is a system they must follow so we know who they are, to make sure they are not criminals and terrorists. If the system is slow and broken, then fix the sytem, don't BREAK THE LAW!!!!!

Anybody with an IQ greater than their shoe size can figure it out.


buck
A better way would be to do it legally. Not breaking the law and making their family illegal and taking gov't. services away from citizens.


LovingMother
Wanting a better life for their families is not a sin. Their sin is going about it illegally. If they took the appropriate legal steps, their being here wouldn't be a problem.





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