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Well no it isn't true. Most of our food is produced domestically too.
Also the BS about them being "required" is from the Central Valley of California and some other corporate illegal lobbyists.
Also to all those nut jobs that want to say the West used to belong to Mexico and that the US stole it and so owes something I'd like to agree with you, but here's what you'll need to do to have any credibility with anyone with an education:
1) 1st Mexico needs to cede all of its lands back to the King of Spain.
2) After that the French may or may not have a claim so this could get complicated for you.
3) After you in Mexico have worked out how much land you owe France...You'll need to contact all the surviving Indian groups in what is now America's Southwest also you'd better start checking out Mexico's native tribes claims.
4) Contact the goverment of Guatamala and make sure to return all of Southern Mexico to them and whatever Mayans remain there.
5) Finally there will be a lot of work for you to do with all of the people who lost land to the Aztecs in the last 150 years before the Spanish came.
6) After you've done all of that let's sit down and talk since you won't sound like such complete hypocites after giving all the land that Mexico stole back to the people they've stolen it from.
Truthfully and ironically these corrupt interests compete illegally with legitimate businesses that do all of this work in the US without illegal slave labor from Latin America.
Drive through America's heartland and still the World's breadbasket and you'll see that there the ratio of illegals to legal farm workers is quite low. In border states with large corporate farming interests the ratio is reversed.
It is a simple lie to say that we would have to pay $5 per apple or anything like that. Over the next 10 years automation will make an even greater dent in the need even of these corrupt grower's need for slave labor from Latin America. Therefore any reliance on this labor source will decrease rapidly over time in response to automation. Even illegal laborers are laborers and get wages. Machines are cheaper and increasingly do a better job at a lower cost. Even wine grapes can now be harvested using machines that are highly automated. It is just insane to make the claim that we need a never ending flow of illegal labor.
I am married to a LEGAL immigrant who is a woman of color so before you claim racism please stop and just look at the facts. Illegal and dishonest actions don't really deserve a lot of support. Calling people racists because you want to live "fact free" is dishonest and inaccurate.
It used to be true and was supported by Rand institute studies that illegals in this country added more to the economy than they cost in services and other negative impacts. This is no longer true and its well understood that illegals cost the economy far more than any benefit they bring as a group. This is being suppressed because corrupt businesses (well funded lobbies) are well entrenched in the media and government. We have the worst government money can buy...
Construction is often argued to be an example of where we need illegals. Not true they actually destroyed a healthy domestic industry and aren't cheaper from a wage standpoint they are just well entrenched and are dominating that business. They are paid equally or higher than domestic labor in this industry so there is no cost savings.
The only industry that really needs illegal immigrants to be cheap is the restaurant industry. This industry is not in any way an essential industry and is really a luxury purchase for consumers. Eating out is not a need and is ALWAYS more expensive than eating at home. I mean you are paying for someone to make and carry a sandwich, this is something you can do yourself way cheaper. So while I care about restaurant workers I am not willing to pay higher taxes to support illegal immigrants arguing that I have to support other people's luxury spending choices.
Of course on the illegal's side they don't care about facts it's all emotion, obfuscation and calling everyone whose against handing them out welfare checks and illegal preferences racists.
The largest Hispanic rights group in the US is La Raza. This translates directly to: The Race. Doesn't that make La Raza totally racist? |
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Micky
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No,we had food on our table before this mass invasion and we will have it long after. |
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This argument is so lame it needs a walker.
Before we were invaded--and I do mean invaded--our crops got picked, our lawns got mowed, and our buildings got cleaned. SOmehow, it all happened.
How was that? AMERICANs did it--legal americans.
Puh-leez. That whole argument is weak, weak, weak. |
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hardwoodrods
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Since I'm white and my grandparents were farm laborers who lived in a farm labor camp, I somehow think the crops will get harvested without the help of the illegals. The whole "if they don't do it no one will" argument is a huge myth. |
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nigel v
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yea, those fruits and veggies were getting picked before the invaders got here, lawns were being mowed, houses were being built, restaurants still had full staffs, etc.... before they got here. |
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reelperspectiv
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Huge myth, we will do just fine without them not paying taxes and getting free health care. If you want equal right all you have to do is march. It might take 40 years but acting like parasites isn't the way. |
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gitoutofusa
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The U.S.A. will be fine without illegals, have you ever been without fruit & veggies? Illegal = criminal. Enforce our laws!!!! |
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ProUSA2
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There are many areas of the country where there are few...if any illegal aliens. Yes...it is a fallacy that we would have no fruits of vegetables...or "we would pay $5 for an apple" if it weren't for illegal aliens. |
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budda
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where do the mexicans eat and shop and live ---all tax free---
claim a pay check pay the taxs |
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trf6x6
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This is a bunch of hog-wash. There are more than enough people that are able to pick these fruits and vegetables. You just have to get them off of welfare. That would kill two birds with one stone. The problem of both freeloaders would be solved. We save money on the welfare system and all of the social programs that the ILLEGAL aliens take advantage of. |
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Tyler W
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all illegals are doing is messing up America;s economy and contributing to the ever growing crime rate in America. Most fruit and vegetables are imported anyhow. |
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intelligentdesign
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BS, most food is imported |
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Razor Jim
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Americans old enough to remember how things were before the illegal flood, know the answer to that question. We did survive without illegals just fine thank you very much! |
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Sweet Tea & Lemons
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This country does NOT need illegals to survive. This country needs to be rid of illegals to survive |
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Almighty Kennedy
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They make it like if the illegals did not pick his fruit America would come to a grinding halt.But Calif had a major freeze lots of fruit was lost and we survived the world did not end. |
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jasonjas
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I don't mind people who want to live in America, but I don't mind it when you do it illegally. We should drive them back and never allow anyone into the country unless they come with a legal pass or citizenship.
Illegal immigrants do things for less pay than what a real citizen wants. All people who do this should just pay very large fines that can be used to give jobs to the real American citizens who were either born here or who passed the test to get in here. |
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shewolf3808
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Can I answer with a joke?
Four guys are on a ship, a German, an Irishman, an American, and a Mexican.
The German raises a bottle of beer to his mouth, takes a swig, and then pours the rest over the side. The American ask "Why did you do that?' The German says "Beer is plentiful in Germany and we have lots to spare."
The Irishman raises a bottle of scotch to his mouth, takes a swig, and then pours the rest over the side. The American ask "Why did you do that?' The Irishman says "Scotch is plentiful in Ireland and we have lots to spare."
The American grabs the Mexican and throws him overboard. The German and Irishman exclaim "Why did you do that?" The American replied "Mexicans are plentiful in our country and we have lots to spare."
I can say that because I am Native American and if you don't like it, tough s***. |
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Jan
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I would still have plenty of fruits and vegetables without them. I go to the local orchard and pick my own fruit. I drive to the nearby Amish farms to buy my vegetables,you will never see an illegal working their fields. I buy enough of both to freeze for my family during the winter. Both the orchard and the farms are run by American families,I pay no more for any of it and they don't use cheap labor. |
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pink1957girl
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That's a load of crap!
We would be better off without them. Taxpayers are paying BILLIONS each year to take care of the services for illegals. It wouldn't cost billions to increase the wages of citizens, thus increasing the cost of produce a LITTLE, if the 20+ million illegal were not here! The $4 head of lettuce is a myth!
These 20+ million illegals are criminals for breaking our laws. The pro-illegals hate this concept but it's true.
What should be call a person that breaks several Federal laws? I think criminal fits very well! |
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Michael Vick Sick Pup
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I never heard a mexican say that. I am the only one allowed to break the law. |
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Lex
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That's a bunch of bull crap. Let's journey back in time, shall we?...
In the 50s, farms were farmed, food was harvested, hotels were cleaned, homes were cleaned, lawns were mowed, etc., etc., etc.
How this rumor that Americans can't do work to benefit themselves got started, I'll never know. The fact of it all is that we don't need illegal aliens. No one does, no one has. |
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Richard S
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Did we have them before they did an olympic sprint across that border? |
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AMAZON PRINCESS
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I do not agree we are a dime a dozen when it comes to our jobs, including illegals. |
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Skeerguy
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I owned a small restaurant in the mid 1990s before the immigration wave hit in our area. We advertised constantly and could not get people to even apply. There was no one willing to do this kind of work. We could only pay so much since customers were already complaining about the price of a sandwich. Fast food restaurants were covered with banners advertising jobs that no one wanted. I'm glad to be done with it now. But that is why, regardless of the kind of restaurant, all restaurants today are "Mexican" restaurants. |
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SpiderPig
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so we'll get more food from China |
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summermoondancer2004
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Chicago, a few years ago they had a raid on an onion field here in Georgia and legal and illegal immigrants alike ran away and the onions rotted in the field.
She wolf I also am American Indian, (everyone born here is Native American so there is a difference), and something you forgot is those Mexicans are just like you and I they are American Indians.. Mexico is part of North America and the Indians living on their land are North American Indians and all of their ancestors were unlike the US. |
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♥ ♥Be Happi♥ ♥
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Why don't you take a minute, drive by the fields and let us know how many white, back, Asian people you see out there in the heat picking, planting and weeding those fields.
Then ask your question again with those figures you counted. |
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juan carlos
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WELL LET ME REMIND YOU THAT PART OF THIS LAND USE TO BELONG TO US, AND THAT SOME PARASITES TOOK IT AWAY. |
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