My priest from church said this...?

Spazzâ„¢[FTP]

I've heard some ppl use the Bible to back up there anti-immigration beliefs but for some reason I can't picture Jesus booting people out the country since Jesus taught compassion

DAR

Loving them and paying to educate their families at the expense of my own children's failing education are two different things.

God loves our children, too.

hardwoodrods

I believe God also said not to covet your neighbors house, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Isn't that what the illegals are doing?

Ice Saber

Actually, I think people who employ illegal immigrants mostly pay "under the table." That way they can pay below minimum wage and lessen their chances of getting caught hiring illegals.

Patio

God says love thy neighbor but also obey the law.

rukidding

I can love but that doesn't change the fact that they are still illegal and breaking the law. Jesus didn't give criminals a "free pass" even though he loved them. He expected them to take responsibility for their actions and suffer the consequences of their actions. Even your formerly Venezuelan priest knows that he cannot give absolution to a penitent if that penitent isn't sorry for his sins and willing to avoid the occasion of those sins in the future. Loving illegal immigrants does not excuse their breaking the law.

freakboynv2000

I think it's a bunch of crap. Jesus was also in favor of upholding the laws of the land including taxes. your priest was playing to the crowd

eminembolism

I think it's a good end-of-service homily. God does ask us to love others, and I believe compassion is his greatest gift to us.

I do not disparage against my brother or sister; I do not insult their race, their creed (if any) or gender. I know in my heart that we all spring from the same waters, and to those waters, we shall all return.

But I do demand that the laws of my country be heeded, and about 20 million have deliberately broken those laws. I do not love them any less; yet, I will not sit back and let people break the laws of my country and demand amnesty because of their sheer numbers.

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By the way: He sounds like a good priest; a good man. I disagree with this particular perspective, however.

stung4ever

Pay back Ceaser's things to Ceaser, but God's things to God.

Immigration law would fall under Caeser.

xsesivelyso2

religion is not politics, He was right about preaching to the masses what ever their status, but he crossed a very delicate line when he proposed that it was OK to be illegal as the scriptures also state that the laws of the land are to be obeyed.Not to mention the separation of church and state issues but he he is a priest with compassion so he was in the right place to say what his heart told him.my opinion.

#1con

All the more reason to become legal.

Insane

He sites a few false statements and uses others in a way that is misleading.

Illegals only pay sales tax, then why can't I?
everyone pays sales tax even if your here visiting LEGALLY, so that's just a blind ally used to say they do pay taxes.

Their employers send money to the IRS that they don't get back because the don't have SS#s if they don't have SS#s then there is no tax withheld and none going to the IRS.

If they are using a fake SS# that's fraud, that's a crime!

God did say love thy neighbor, but even God gave us laws to follow and consequences for breaking them.

We are all people and people who break laws are punished not praised.

tiny Valkyrie

And since when did "love thy neigbor" trump "thou shalt not steal" and/or "thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's property?"
Why should I turn the other cheek while getting overtaxed by the government to pay for some illegal welfare glut & it's anchor brats?

Illegals are still illegal, and are breaking God's laws.

Heidi 4

I'm glad I don't go to your church. Jesus said 'give to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what is God. God never encouraged illegality, using others, disobeying laws.

I think everyone who applauded should open their homes to the illegals. Instead they want the rest of us to pay for them.

The Catholic Church should send masses of priests, nuns and other 'compassionate' people to Mexico and provide for the people there. The rest of us believe charity begins at home!

Possum

So does this mean that your priest is an illegal immigrant?
Isn't that against the law?
Well I'm from NZ so I'm not sure how it all works in other countries. But if your Priest is breaking the law then He will have to answer to his God. Not a good look in my opinion.

GoGo Girls

They are illegals and so where did they get the social security number from? Not only are they here in this country illegally they are stealing identity. Your church is obviously filled with illegals and should be raided.

Dirty Martini

If that were only true more often. ALas it isn't.

Illegal aliens may pay sales tax, but too many are paid by their law breaking employers in cash, without income tax and other withholding.

As such, many don't pay federal income taxes. I dont know about you, but that's where most of my taxes go. A huge amount by golly.

Bringing the Bible into the illegal immigrant conversation is frustrating. We'll find plenty of soundbites in the Bible to support just about any position you choose out of context. The bible also says it is OK to sell your daughter into slavery.

skip

Please prove to me that illegals pay income taxes. otherwise, your carefully-constructed apocryphal story falls apart at the seams.

Micky

That's funny, I don't see much love from from "my neighbors". I see them coming here illegally and offending in the following ways....
They are prideful,envious,gluttonous and greedy.
They covet,steal,lie,murder and what about lifting up the name of god for a vain purpose?

I also remember something about an eye for an eye in the bible,I think that's a bit more appropriate when dealing with this invasion.

ohbuck26

BS X 2

spirit dummy

The US, like 200 other countries, is a sovereign nation with laws to protect its citizens and especially its borders from economic, military, and political threats. The overwhelming majority of these countries are not as lax as our government is enforcing these laws.

Maybe the parishioners didnâ€™t realize illegal immigration is costing them at least $1000 annually per person and eroding their way of life. Maybe theyâ€™re OK with supporting the downtrodden that a neighboring country is fully able to support if it so desired. (i.e. our predominately Catholic neighbor doesn't love or even like over 60% of its citizens). It's not OK for most of us however.

The last time I noticed, the U.S. was still a democracy vs. a Christian theocracy.

In terms of taxes, the taxes the illegal aliens donâ€™t pay due to â€œoff the booksâ€ arrangements more than compensates for the taxes they pay. I'm talking in aggregate - obviously some get payroll taxes deducted on all they receive.

Sweetharttt

I liked the story your priest told. However, in order to pay taxes, you have to have a social security number. Employers can't send money to the IRS without a social security number attached to it. It doesn't make any sense.

Mark

Yahoo is Stupid

God also said to obey the law of the land, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet, and when the Church became "God's chosen people" that meant that the followers in Jesus were thus "grafted onto the olive tree" that is Israel, God's chosen people.

Even God says that newcomers need to assimilate into the new society.

I don't get why even priests are so confused. If they would simply crack their Bibles open and read for a while, they might actually have a clue what it SAYS.

EDIT: thumbs-down all you want ... I'm still right.

metro900

Thats beautiful. It shows you that most americans really do have a heart.

Pamela

In my own personal experience I know of many illegals who are "illegal" because they have overstayed their work visa. These illegals I know applied for & received their own valid SSN from the US gov't. when they first arrived here. The SS card is stamped on the front "valid for work only with valid authorization from INS." They have paid taxes & continue to pay taxes every year with their own SSN even though they will never be eligible for welfare, social security, unemployment, medicaid, medicare, food stamps or any any goverment assistance program. I also know illegals who have their own valid tax id #'s & pay taxes through those. It is a widely believed misconception in this country today that all illegals don't pay taxes & another widely believed misconception that those who do are doing so with a stolen SSN. I'm not saying they are all innocent but there are plenty of American citizens guilty of the same crime. Identity theft has been around long before the illegals. Our welfare & social security programs were in grave danger long before illegals were here. We just choose now to use the illegals as a scapegoat for all of our problems. The real problems of our society are caused when man-made laws conflict with those of God's. God's law always will be higher & superior to ours regardless of how we try to extract Him from our government, our money, our pledge, our schools or our laws. Where God is not welcome chaos reigns. It's time to stop blaming others for our own problems. Let's take a look from within & take responsiblity for what's going on.

EDIT: After reading some of the other responses I have to aks, "DID OUR OWN ANCESTORS NOT COVET THIS PROPERTY?!" Is that now how we ALL got here in the first place? The only difference is our ancestors brutally murdered the Natives & stole it from them. At least the illegals just want to come to work in peace but our self-righteous attitudes AFTER WHAT OUR OWN ANCESTORS did choose to JUDGE them & deem them worthy only of deportation. God is the same yesterday, today & forever. If He allowed our ancestors to come here to start a new life why would He NOW not choose to help the "illegals" do the same?

doinitthamexicanway

hate,hate and more hate is all i see here...i am so glad you people are so perfect...NOT!!! for the dude at the top of the page.. mr. know it all, the illegals do pay taxes!!! know what your talking about before you start rambling on like the racist you are!!!! GOD loves all people...deal with it!!!

kasarung_untung

You just want to make bad Christian name, right? an illegal is an illegal. Every country has their own rule. If you brake the rule, you are not more than thief. Come to some body's house and stay there without permission. America is our house, you have to ask before you come in. Don't make excuse. especially bring religion. Not good...not good...

Kaska

Yes this is a very nice story however

Illegals do not pay taxes. If the employer is paying an illegal "Under the table" I hardly think he is stupid enough to report it to the IRS.

Sales tax is change compared to legal citizens paying Federal Taxes, State Taxes, City Taxes, FICA, Social Security & School Taxes. I think many would happily pay that and bring home more money to take care of there family.

Mz. America

And after he gave that speech, he went to the back of the church and molested one of the Alter boys.
Needless to say, cant believe what anyone says.

divers_godeeper

Why is he bringing politics in the church......

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