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Please tell me how do illegals make the economy better?

How does working for lower wages and getting paid under the table support our economy? How does this help out our society? Please dont give me that bull about doing jobs that we don't want. I have cleaned hotel rooms and worked 12 hour shifts in hot sweaty warehouses in the past and there are no jobs that people don't want. Give some real answers and not excuses to allow illegals.


    




wheniawoke
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they don't


GeeDub
Actually, I wasn't going to tell you that they do jobs that we don't want. I agree with you. They don't help the economy one bit.


OatesATM
I think you answered your own question pretty good.
They are a drain on the economy, don't learn our language, try and force us to cater to them and they spend our tax dollars to support them, and if you haven't noticed, everywhere they live becomes a run-down slum and crime center costing Americans even more.

I am all for legal immigration and coming to America to work hard, better your family, contribute to the country and assimilate into our culture


NoBama For Me
well i cant really answer it beucase i agree with you, they try to make excuses for unlawful things no matter what it is. they kill someone it was for food they run across the border to support family they hide in churches to run away form the law nothing is supporting us at all it is just supporting themself and isnt even making anything better for them from what they came from.


hogie0101
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I think "Intellect's" head was a little too big and missed the point, lost a few IQ point with that answer. The question was about illegals, not immigrants. Immigrants: using proper immigration routes. Essentially what "intellect" said about immigrants was correct but that kind of data can be manipulated to serve almost any purpose. It did not answer the illegal question.

"Andy" was a good answer except for the majority of migrant workers coming up because of losing their jobs in agriculture. Where that may be true about job loss, they were coming up in relatively the same numbers long long before NAFTA.

As far as "lazy Whites", but down the crack pipe and step away. I have seen many, many, many, in fact almost all "Mexican" legal and illegal workers work hard till the got the job full time then turn to crap, in the hundreds. Don't get me wrong I liked many of them, in fact most, very nice with a strong family values. Usually second generation "Americanized" are much better workers, kinda more like the "lazy whites".

Illegals don't help the economy. They make the Rich, richer and the middle class and poor poorer. They also worsen their over all chance(s) of creating a rising class, or growing the middle class.

We already have the laws they just need to be enforced.


just me
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Yep...they don't.

They are willing to do jobs for a much lower wage...which is why they thrive. If they were not able to do this these factorys, etc would have to pay a decent wage to American citizens...They make money here and send it back to their families in other countries...so not only are they providing a service for a lower wage than legal, they are obtaining state assistance on our tax dime and then they aren't even spending all of their money in our stores. In what way could that possibly help us? It doesn't.


Louis T
They do NOT!

Harvard Professor Borjas reports that illegal aliens displace Middle American workers out of $200 billion annually in lost wages. Bear-Sterns report shows that illegal aliens work off the books and do not pay over $301 billion annually in uncollected IRS income taxes. You make up the difference. The illegals no longer work on the farm. They move into every Middle Class job in America and they undercut wages for America's working poor and destroy the living wages of the Middle Class. Additionally, the average illegal causes a net loss of $55,000.00 to US taxpayers during his work time the USA. Finally, we create cultural and linguistic apartheid by creating a slave class of workers unassimilated while growing in numbers and antagonistic strength. This condition creates a perfect formula for rioting and violence that will tear our nation to pieces!

Ask Paris, France!


mike b
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they dont


Daniel D
They are not good for the economy at all.

But from their standpoint it is the most fantastic opportunity! More money than they've ever had and plenty of work etc. I do feel sorry for them but it is not the governments responsibility to provide for them. They should seek the correct channels to come here. plain and simple. If they are not allowed then you make the best with what you can.

However, it does keep more cash in small businesses which is good for their profit and revenue making. They can spend less on all their workers. This creates a stronger business and can look good on the official records for an economy which is growing becasue the businesses are doing well.

This is NOT what is desirable though, because it is giving a false statistic and the economy may even be on the decline and we would not know. The government should increase their efforts to remove these people form the country and also to prevent more coming in. They have a country and it is the job of their governement to provide for their people.


chlango1
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unfortunately you ignorant close mind don't really know the there is more than just the people who get pay under the table, 75% of the immigrant population now i days uses a Tax id for work porpoises so they can get pay like any other working person and they pay taxes,


You are loved
The pace of recent U.S. economic growth would have been impossible without immigration.

Since 1990, immigrants have contributed to job growth in three main ways: They fill an increasing share of jobs overall, they take jobs in labor-scarce regions, and they fill the types of jobs that native workers often shun. The foreign-born make up only 11.3 percent of the U.S. population and 14 percent of the labor force. But amazingly, the flow of foreign-born is so large that immigrants currently account for a larger share of labor force growth than natives.

DO IMMIGRANTS COST THE GOVERNMENT MORE THAN THEY CONTRIBUTE IN TAXES?

Research into this subject reveals a consensus: over time, immigrants and their descendants collectively provide more to the federal government in taxes than they receive in benefits. For example, a report by the National Academy of Sciences found that a typical immigrant and his or her descendants will pay an estimated $80,000 (in 1996 dollars) more in taxes than they will receive in combined local, state, and federal benefits over their lifetimes.
Perhaps the myth that immigrants are costly to American taxpayers stems from the fact that, at the state and local level, immigrants use more in services than they pay in local taxes (this is true for the vast majority of native citizens as well). The National Academy of Sciences study found that the average immigrant imposes a net lifetime fiscal cost on state and local governments of $25,000, attributable to their use of schools, roads, and so on.

Those with very low levels of education and skill cost states and localities the most, particularly in health care outlays for emergency room and other hospital services. However, most of the taxes that immigrants pay, including Social Security contributions, go to the federal government, and these payments are well in excess of federal benefits received.
On balance, immigrants pay substantially more than they receive from all levels of government combined.

Of particular importance is the value of immigration to the future financial strength of the Social Security and Medicare systems. In the absence of immigration, the U.S. workforce is projected to grow very slowly—much more slowly than the size of the retired population as the Baby Boom generation reaches its golden years. Because immigrants add to the supply of younger workers who contribute payroll taxes that finance the Social Security and Medicare system, they are an important reason why forecasts show that the programs will be able to pay benefits in full until 2042 for Social Security and 2019 for Medicare’s hospital insurance program.
The projections of Social Security’s trustees show that higher levels of immigration in the future will improve the long-term financial condition of Social Security, while lower levels will have the opposite effect. The higher fertility levels of immigrants also slows the rate at which the average age of the overall population will rise, keeping more people on the contribution side of the equation.

(It looks to me you need to spend more time reading and educating yourself, just as the rest of your fellow answerer's who have nothing better to do)
IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
ENJOY


c00kies
Go do some research about production cost, globalization, and inflation. Then, you'll understand. And as for the Harvard professor comment...that's OLD OLD OLD OLD NEWS!!! Update yourself


«»RUBY«»
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Illegals do NOT help our economy, they are a drain on it. The illegals will not answer you because they have no real justification for entering the USA illegally. There is no justification FOR it.

Illegals do have a choice. They can enter our country legally, as other immigrants do, or not come here. Wanting a better life and being willing to work for low wages is no justification for entering our country illegally. There IS NO justification.


QUE PASA??
Its not bull, its reality. When was the last time you picked any type of farm fruits. Cleaning hotel rooms is your choice and I guess as far as you want to go. What is stoping you from getting an education and better job?? Are you illegal? You have choices, the illegals do not. They will take the first job. They are here to work and make a living just as you and I.


lytesdelite
If you truly want to know the answer to your question go live with a family for a week in their conditions and do as they do to survie, then go through their passage into Mexico and try to come back with out papers or Identification and not speak english and then you. will have the questionand not an answer walk a mile in some-one else's shows or sandals then speak about what you know..


petrel
By giving you employment to process their applications, by doing work thet you don't at a lower wage rate. ( yes I am guilty of giving you that answer) there is more employment for teachers lawyers and medical professionals.


Dr Christian Troy
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they save the money big corporations would have spent trying to train and keep these lazy white Americans working in hotels and in the back of restaurants.

big corporations would go broke overnight if they had to pay all these lazy white Americans the kind of wages they expect to get paid for doing the work Mexicans are doing now.

Mexicans don't complain every minute, they don't ask for coffee breaks or vacation time like lazy white Americans do.

big corporations are able to thrive because of Mexicans working for 1/2 price or less.
otherwise, the economy would be broke before you knew it.

lazy white Americans demand too much when they don't deserve it.
typical attitude..they want want and want..and they do nothing to get it but complain.





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