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PanicBlackEye83
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Yes, two seperate issues but the politicaly correct idiots of this country (who have done more harm to race relations in this country than all of the BNP fascists and Muslim extremists combined) would have you believe otherwise. |
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Clara Nett
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although there are some that would like you to believe that they are related and if you are not for immigration, you are a racist. This is NOT true.
Race refers to the concept of dividing people into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of characteristics and beliefs about common ancestry. The most widely used human racial categories are based on visible traits (especially skin color, facial features and hair texture), and self-identification
Immigration is the movement of people into one place from another. While human migration has existed throughout human history, immigration implies long-term permanent or forced indefinite residence (and often eventual citizenship) by the immigrants: tourists and short-term visitors are not considered immigrants (see expatriates). However, seasonal labour migration (typically for periods of less than a year) is often treated as a form of immigration. The global volume of immigration is high in absolute terms, but low in relative terms. The International Integration and Refugee Association estimated 190 million international migrants in 2005, about 3 percent of global population. The other 97 percent still live in the state in which they were born, or its successor state. The Middle East, some parts of Europe, little areas of South East Asia, and a few spots in the West Indies have the highest numbers of immigration population recorded by the UN Census 2005.
The modern idea of immigration is related to the development of nation-states and nationality law. Citizenship of a nation-state confers an inalienable right of residence in that state, but residence of immigrants is subject to conditions set by immigration law. The nation-state made immigration a political issue: by definition it is the homeland of a nation defined by shared ethnicity and/or culture, and in most cases immigrants have a different ethnicity and culture. This has led to social tensions, xenophobia, and conflicts about national identity, in many developed countries. Illegal immigration refers to immigration across national borders in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. Under this definition, an illegal immigrant is a foreigner who either illegally crossed an international political border, be it by land, sea or air, or a foreigner who legally entered a country but nevertheless overstay their visa in order to live and/or work therein.
They are widely differing issues. |
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madbtmarvellous
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yes |
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Da_webwalker
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I have nothing against any people based on their race, skin color or national origin, because i know there are good people and there are bad people in every race...The illegal immigration issue is not about race but rather its about economics, its about whats about to happen to a great country if illegal immigration is not stopped... |
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Lord Charles
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Two different things. Race is your ethnic group. Immigration is moving IN to one country from another (as opposed to 'emigration' which is moving OUT of a country to another) |
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steve a
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yes one is a birth thing the other is a moving about thing |
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john_hannibal_smith
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Absolutely YES. |
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PATRICK
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oh yes |
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Sustagurl2
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Sure. |
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Lev8mysoul
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Race and immigration a separate issue? Yes, because immigrants come from all races, colors, nationalities, etc.
Illegal Alien proponents try to make race an issue based on the fact that the majority of illegals come from Hispanic countries. They're barking up the wrong tree. |
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origamimark
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Yes. |
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Helen M
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Of course they're separate issues. Shamefully, people who are afraid of open debate try to confuse them so as to shut down discussions. |
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Doethineb
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Yes. I have had many discussions on immigration on which my interlocutor and I agreed heartily, despite the fact that he or she was African/Caribbean/Asian/Middle Eastern or what have you. Race didn't come into it. What was common ground was that immigration has got completely out of hand and no political party seems to have the political will to control it. |
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Politically Incorrect
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Yes. |
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Afallon
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Of course.
It's not just black/asian people streaming in to Britain, it's the East Europeans too (who are Caucasian) ,the same race as us.
Heebygee...check the word 'immigrant' in the dictionary! |
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Micky
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Yes |
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Rob
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Of course they are separate issues. Only in the mind of a racist would they be the same issue. |
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Rommel
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two entirely separate issues. though the mindless trolls that harp on about the cultural melting pot ideal will accuse you of racism if you wear a black t shirt. 'idiots' they cause more racism and resentment with there extremest views than racists themselves. don't let any body call you a racist just because your concerned about the blanket immigration that's going on. i was called a racist because i said that Muslim extremists should not be allowed to preach hate on our streets. if I'd have said we shouldn't allow (((people))) to preach hatred....that would be fine.???? the country is all but losing its sanity and its freedom of speech. |
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Joel W
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VERY different issues. Two links that have to be read to understand....
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=16390
But it is very, very critical to understand La Raza who is excellent at making the people feel like racists.. is being supported by the big foundations and Mexico itself along with the Democratic Congress and the President of this country. And the foundations that are suppling billions to the lobby efforts?
http://www.mnforsustain.org/immg_la_raza_foundation_funders.htm
Give me one tenth of the money La Raza is getting and I could stop this mess of racism accusations in its tracks. And it is... it is very offensive!! |
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Razor Jim
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Yes it is two seperate issues for honest people. |
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ligiersaredevilspawn
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Yes, they are two seperate issues. The biggest problem is that far left wing politicians try and bundle the two together so that if you talk about immigration they can label you as a racist.
Fact. Immigration is a massive threat to our community cohesion and social stability - the government has even admitted it, another fact is that the largest group of migrant workers in the U.K are now polish. Would it then be racist of me to make the previous statement specific to polish people?
It's a good question and I hope this example illustrates my point. |
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Ferrari Babe ¸.•*´`*♥ ♥*´`*•.¸
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Yes, so accusations of racism are often inaccurate and unjust. |
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UTOPIA OR BUST,
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sure or separate and i still see nothing wrong with immigration. i don't see the big fear some others see, i don't see Islam taking over as some do. most of what i see is a big rise in the amount of people that go to the catholic church than did six years ago. is that what they are worried about that the poles are mostly catholic |
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Oswald W
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Yes they are two separate issues . Racial and incompatible Cultural demands get linked . |
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Darkchild
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They are closely linked but they are two different subjects. Race tends to be determined by a persons skin colour or ethnic background. Immigration tends to be about people from different countries coming into another country. They are closely linked as people bring different cultures, traditions and community based ideas. Also people of different races and countries tend to have people have judge them and stereotype them quicker, when they are not in there native country. |
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politicsguy
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Yes.
A demonstrable fact. Immigrants can be of any race. But some people try deliberately to conflate the two. Nigel Hastilow for example, referred to Powell's Rivers of Blood speech from 1968, when Black immigration to the UK is not the current focus of concern, immigration from Eastern Europe is. |
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LadyMoonlight!!
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Yes
You can object to large scale uncontrolled immigration without being in any way racist or looking down on the immigrants' race.
Sadly some people like the BNP confuse the two issues. And "racist" is a convenient insult term to throw at someone who opposes immigration to avoid having to actually discuss the problem. |
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josephrob2003
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i think so,some would treat it the same.
If your referring to the influx of people in to the UK,we definately need to control,immigration,so we are'nt overrun,a bit late one would think,but we should'nt treat it as a race issue. |
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crazy hefer
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YES!!!
But people are playing the race card to make what they've done seem like nothing compared to discrimination. It's not gonna work for too long, I hope. |
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jalady
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In Miami - Immigrations from Haiti receive different benefits than Cubans, there are different rules allowing SOME to stay
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK! |
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Snoot
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Yes. Race is the unified nationality and immigration is coming to this country from another to live. |
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