Should we refuse entry to immigrants who refuse to integrate?

rrrraaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Absobloodylutely.... ive lived in muslim countries and we were never advised to shout about the fact that we had different cultures. I got spat at in the street by locals and put down because I was white, female, single and over 25 without children, therefore an outcast. I never once questioned their culture as i was a visitor technically even though I lived there. I tried to learn the language and was laughed at mostly.You visit and live in a country because you like the ways or RESPECT the ways. If you dont, forget it. LEAVE!!!! I would never have imagined askin to build a church there..... look at the UK now!

Garry

How do you know whether they are going to integrate if they've only just got here. Or do we assume that all people of a certain skin colour / religion won't integrate?

cooalaganga

No. If you moved to a country that was not familiar to you and you met people of your own race and culture i'm sure you would hang out with them and speak english as its your first language, you will find that most people who come to this country will speak english but its obviously easier to speak your own language.

Julee.

No; if they have gone through the whole legal process, have lived up to those standards, making an effort to learn the language, that is enough.

Robespierre

I am an immigrant and I want to come to your house and integrate with you. Getti me Nuggi Nuggi winki winki. I get to integrate with your wife as well? Getti me. Nuggi winki. And watch your TV in your sofa. Ain't it matey? What the F*** do you want?

asdfjkl;

If they are making positive difference, no one would mind. If they make a negative difference then obviously people won't want them around.

bringmesunshine is back!!!

Britain has always been a country of immigration and migration. To put checks on it like language tests would be ridiculous. What next - ban Melas? Ban Indian food? Force Muslims to speak English at home..and how would that be enforceable?

adventurerinsun

yes , give them test's BUT use there money to fund it.
and if not 100%send em straight back.

princess_29_71

Cool name and the answer is a resounding YES

Friz

Have you ever lived overseas? Obviously not. It takes time to assimilate. It's impossible for anyone to conveniently slip into another way of life, another culture and different ways of doing things the minute they step onto the land of their new home.

Studies have shown that the children of immigrants (ie, the first generation of the family to be born there) actually over compensate for their parents "foreigness" in some ways and take on the local dialect/customs/habits in a somewhat exaggerated way. These children are often embarassed by the differences between their parents and the parents of their school friends etc. It's a complete fallacy that these children don't bother learning the language or the local culture. They do, often leading to a lot of conflict with their parents, who maintain a more traditional viewpoint.

What exactly are "the norms and standards that we adhere to"? And, were there such a thing, why would it be necessary for everyone to have exactly the same ones? A well-functioning society doesn't require stepford citizens.

I am unsure of your nationality, but would wager my bets with North American or British (which is, of course, ironic, as probably never have two nations been made up of such varied ancestory) who I have noticed, in my experience of living overseas in several countries in different parts of the world, are the least likely to integrate with the society in which they are living!! North American and British ex-pats are the cliquiest, most solitary group of people I have ever come across, often not attempting to strike up friendships with the local people and often mocking and criticising the habits and customs that they have!

Tolerance and compassion. Ever heard of them?

Three Lane King

Well if you can remember another group of people, oh lets call them Native Americans. Now do you remember them integrating. Good because I do. Oh wait a minute. Wait a minute. When they were learning english and trying to integrate, they were considered outsiders and a menace to the law because they were not the same color. Oh and also considered traiters by their own people for trying to. So yeah I don't think that idea would be great. You have to offer it, not force it down their throats!

Ralph

iYa know that's an interesting question ;especially with the current events.This country is a democracy,But not a pure democracy by definition.We use advocates or representitives to plead our opinions.Can't do it any other way as far as I know.This prevents us from beating the hell out of eachotherbecause we disagree with what someone else thinks.While this isn't Pure democracy,it provides organization.So we decide by voting our opinions as to who we'll start war with.Every body can't have their own way

quinn_nelson

yes because if they want to be in this country then they should adapt

Autumns' eve

Lets think about this now........Tell me did English "Colonist " "INTEGRATE" into the countries they took????? No.......

What are you thinking ..... if you don't like it become a hermit!!!!!!!!

alan j

Yes intergrate or GO HOME

Jinx U

To me, integration isn't really the issue - it's citizenship. If a group of people want to come to the U.S. and start a community of their own, I think that's fine (as long as the community isn't inherently harmful...like if someone wanted to start a community of cannibals, for an outrageous example). BUT - I think that they need to come here legally. Go through the process of citizenship. Pay taxes.

If, though, you're talking about total seclusion - meaning they refuse to learn the national language, or how to deal with the people and culture outside their new community - then yes, I believe that is a problem. No community is a totally island. We live in a global community now, and you HAVE to be able to communicate and cooperate with other groups.

Nancy Kay

immigrant communities in the past have always banded together for support and commerce...from the times long before there was any such thing as illegally immigrating...this country is not in the habit of forcing people to change their lifestyles and become Americanized...that is not the American way, dear!

Grandmas Babe

Yes we should refuse entry to those people who do not want to integrate, after all we would not be able to go into other countries and dictate what we want to do.

angel

cheekyegg

its a bit late for that isnt it?

Trillyp

What would you do with the ones we have already let in??

t d

It depends how you determine what those standards are, and how they are represented.

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cassey s

your question is ironic !!
if the government refused entry to immigrants, then it would be the government who would be refusing the immigrants to integrate,..yes ?
after all they can anly integrate AFTER they have immergrated ...right ?

catch 22 comes to mind.

dilligas

oh hell yeah, but all americans are immigrants anyway apart from the indians

Poofter (an old Zappa reference)

Of course we should.

Edward B

yes

Chris M

abso-f***ing-lutely

lennyj1944

yes we should stop all immigrants who refuse to integrate.

angelcake

Yes especially if they say are customs are offencive to them and we should not do them

lawyers, group

I Have Got a Client with me, Uk Border Agency, always Work beyonds what limits and right they have for work, The Immigrations Officers at the Airport are the Lors of England. I have got a Client with me, came in 2005, I was on a student Visa, Very well Funded, well Literate and he can Speak Fantastic English as well. He Was stopped by the Immigration Officer and his Passport was Detained but thankfully he was given temporary admission. Upon Asking the Reason from the Ukba they said they are having some doubt which they can’t disclose. Imagine that . Now comming to the News Rules, the Refusing Entry Law is comming enforce from 21, April, 2011 but the Ukba immigration Officers have already started refusing the Entry of the students who are weekean in English, even Indeed i would say due to any reason to refuse the entry. e.g student on b2 level that his level of english is less than the b2 entry refused. b1 student is like refusing entry upon the level of english is less than the b1 as well. they just want to make a reason and story of refusing the entry of a Student Visa specially. Pakistan where the 90% of the Population dont speak or understand well Proper English, India 60% of the Populations dont speak or understand well Proper English Bangladesh 80% of the Population dont speak or understand well proper english. There Children come here to learn & Study and serve the England as well in many cases. how come they can speak fluent English. when they dont have such and so Enviroment in the Subcontinent. The Strange thing is the Indo Pak Sub continant is the Main victim of getting the Entry Refused. Sir Ghulam Noon, Sir Anwar Parvez, Mital Steel Owners, Lord Nazeer Ahmed, all Immigrants of old Times, We Should asked from them, when they Arrived in in old times in Uk do they know Well Proper English. how did they Grew up and become a Good Citizen of Uk, the Answer is They spent there Time and life in Uk to Learn English, to get Education, why not these Students who are comming to Uk. 70% of the labour Work is done by students in Uk, One Day Strike from Students can make & tell The Cameron Government where the Students Stands in Uk. when they Study and Work both hardfully just to make there future and the England Country Happier.

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