Shouldn't it be illegal to give aid to illegal immigrants as they're trying to cross the border?
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Shouldn't it be illegal to give aid to illegal immigrants as they're trying to cross the border?
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I'm confused... when did it become socially acceptable to aid in a criminal act? I see legal citizens going down to the border and giving water and food, shoes and whatever else to those that are trying to "hop the fence." I'm not saying that these illegals should die, but if they are attempting an illegal act then they know that there will be consequences.
Now don't call me a racist, because I'm not. I'm all for hispanics/mexicans/latinos coming into this country in want for a better life for their families and for better opportunities. I've been coworkers and am friends with many and I can say they have great work ethics and wonderful family values. They have come to this country legally though and understand what it is to be part of this country, and in that have gained my respect.
If we give a gun to someone that we know has the intention of using that gun to commit murder, are we not aiding in the crime? What is the difference with helping illegals cross the border? Additional Details I live in Arizona and though it is illegal to help them physically cross the border or conspire to, it is not illegal to give them "aid."
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usaf.primebeef
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It is against the law, but it happens to be another law that IS NOT enforced. |
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Reba K
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If a person seems ill or dehydrated, be sure to call Border Patrol and let them know that you are giving water, food and help. They will show up and take over. Don't worry about whether the persons are illegal or not. They are human beings and you don't want a death on your conscious. One judge in Arizona made a decision that it is not illegal to give aid. |
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Kevin J
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Its because people have feelings. I applaud anyone that would give food and water to someone that could die. Not many people have the balls to aid a fellow human that is doing something illegal just to save their lives. |
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mimilundgren
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I think we need to be careful when it comes to people losing their lives. It works both ways. I am vehemently against illegal immigration, but if I saw someone who needed water, I would give them water...or any other medical help that was possible.
It is cruel to allow those people to die in the desert to "teach them a lesson"....without knowing the entire story of how they got to be there...you cannot make that kind of life and death judgment. At what point do you become the greater sinner? You must separate the law of the land, which still has precedence and jurisdiction, from the moral law of doing right for the sake of doing right.....How do you determine that the punishment of death fits the crime? Err on the side of compassion, then turn them over to the Border Patrol for deportation....
Once they are stable, I believe they should be returned to their native country...at the furthermost point from ours... |
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joeandhisguitar
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It is in Arizona, you can be arrested for human smuggling or conspiracy to smuggle humans. |
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uncle osbert
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what is aid?
i am not in favor of giving guns out... but how about water to someone in the desert? or shoes to someone with bare feet?
you may not be saying that "these illegals should die"... but i am saddened by what you do say, which is that aiding a murderer is the same as offering water to a thirsty person in a desert. have we gotten so confused about what it is to be human, that laws take precedence over our free choice to be merciful to those we meet, by offering comfort and sustenence to strangers in need? i don't give them guns... |
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primamaria04
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Our government gave weapons to Saddam , that would make us accomplices in the death of millions of Iraqi citizens. We are then as guilty as Saddam. The people aiding the Mexicans aren't handing them guns. Most Mexicans aren't murders . I am tired of people confusing the Mexicans with terrorists , yes they might be exploiting this country but they aren't loaded with bombs. Should their entry make you question your safety ? Yes . People who enter legally commit crimes, most of the terrorists had Visas. People who were born here commit crimes , Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. You can't convict someone of a crime until they have committed one. |
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submariner662
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Because crossing the border illegally is not the same thing as attempting murder with a gun.
The other thing is, although they are crossing the border illegally, they are still human beings and deserve to be treated accordingly......the same way you or I would want to be treated if we were in need of attention of some sort.
A murderer deserves no compassion. A person who crosses our border and has committed no other crime deserves help if they need it.....and then get shipped back to Mexico. |
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midwestbruin
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It should be, but then you run into a problem of enforcement. Just because you see a hispanic person who looks like an illegal immigrant coming into the country doesn't mean you are aiding and abetting an illegal alien if it cannot be proven. As the standard is reasonable doubt, I'm sure you could make up an excuse saying you believed that he was a legal resident or alien. |
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PUDDIN
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i dont care, they have a better work ethic than some of us americans, they should just be able to walk right over |
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Iain Speed
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Being human is about being kind and compassionate, not about being law abiding. If being kind is lawful then fine, if being kind is illegal then fine. I choose life, someone else can choose a stupid rule. |
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sealRborders
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Actually it IS illegal to give them aid, in cases such as transporting them, hiding them, employing them,etc!!! |
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machiko_146
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Yes, it is aiding and abetting a criminal act. Follow me for those of you who don't(or won't understand). If I am committing a crime, and someone who knows I am committing a crime helps me hide, helps me along, or shelters me, that is aiding a criminal act. It's very simple to understand. |
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princess_29_71
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I agree with you. |
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Kay Neine
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You have a long way to go to .... what about humanity ?
Of course it is not legal what they do ...but you make me speechless .
Where is your Heart ???????
Straight ... you would not give water and food ?Wow!
But i guess you go every sunday to church .....
Shame on you !!!
I also hope that if i am ever in need for help i would never meet a perosn like you . |
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beez
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Whether you are for or against the people coming into U.S. from Mexico, I don't know how you can morally suggest denying them food and water, which isn't against the law, yet. Now if we were loading them up in our pickups, that would be a different matter. |
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*Susan*
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Please dont be stupid. i hate arrogant people like you. how could you compare this stupid sentence that does not make sense at all?
"If we give a gun to someone that we know has the intention of using that gun to commit murder, are we not aiding in the crime? What is the difference with helping illegals cross the border?"
then how the hell can you assure that those people who are trying to pass the border have the intention to commit a crime? |
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Sashie
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According to the Federal Immigration and Nationality Act:
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment,
or encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way,
or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
OOps ,,, too late ... Katsu already posted the same thing ... ah well, never mind ... :) |
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DAR
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You'd have to argue they were 'inducing them to enter' or 'harboring' them.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001324----000-.html |
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75160
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You are not confused, actually you are right on. If any individual wants to personally help any human, they have that right INDIVUDALLY. It is not the RESPONSIBILITY of our government to help criminals. |
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el_oso_candeloso
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two things far from each other, "helping someone" by giving them water? i guess that should be a crime too. i didnt knew that being a good samarithan makes u a crimminal. if u were lost (hope to God that never happens) and u happen to be in another country and u didnt had anything, i bet you wuold seek help from anyone, cus im sure u werent gona ask them if they are legal or crimminals! |
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natarrenata
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Its a humanistic act. Why do you think thy come over here? just to have a better life and be able to provide their family. And once they get here they are not precisely getting a great job.
Its tough for them, they leave family friend and everything they ahve ever know without knowing when they are coming back. Or even if they are going to survive crossing the border.
It's all relative. |
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Nunya
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I am so sick of you naive people saying "I want them to come here but they should do it legally." The ones that can afford the paperwork and the time to do it legally aren't the ones that really need to come here! Don't judge people until you have walked a mile in their shoes. I would be ashamed to live in this country if we started prosecuting people that provided aid to these immigrants. Do something productive with your time, little girl! |
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angela R
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What kind of person would not aid someone in need of water, medical attention or food?? What ever happened to the good samartian? |
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Bambi slayer
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Me and my friends find those water sites and urinate in them. |
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