Shoulf foreigners alowed to claim benefits?

dryheatdave

I was working here for a while, paying taxes & not able to claim benefits - if I'd been out of work, I'd have been sent back to England.

So - YES, if someone pays in, they should be allowed to take out, regardless of their status.

I am currently between jobs and getting NOTHING, having last worked as a 1099 contractor. So I can appreciate different perspectives, because I've experienced them.

jimquk

Most foreigners are NOT allowed to claim benefits unless they have been accepted as permanent residents. People claiming asylum are in a different category though - they are not allowed to work, and if they are here it is because the Home Office has not yet found it to be safe to send them back. So how should they live or get medical care?

Bren

i left my husband who is middle eastern after 12 years abroad, arrived back in this country with clothes we stood up in and Â£500 had to leave after physical and mental abuse for sake of my kids. i was told i couldnt get income support as i hadnt been in the country for the last 6 mnths, i had to let my parents help me look after kids and get a job. he on the other hand pitches up here, is given indefinite leave to remain in uk as married to me, divorces me, marries someone brings her here on the visa he got thru being married to me, had a child, she left him, married another had a child. i had to give up work to look after my mum who has severe dementia and had to declare him to csa as had to claim income support, was told he only has to pay Â£5 a week for kids as hes on benefits i couldnt believe it he has a business and flat he owns and rents out abroad, he goes there three months of the year on holiday and used to buy kids clothes however since government force him to pay Â£5 which i never get he wont pay anything for them. so im much worse off, wheres justice inthat. im english born and bred, paid taxes for years before going abroad never claiming anything yet he comes here with business and property there and claims more than i can.

â†‘ â™¥ Mama to Michael â™¥ â†‘

I think that foreigners should not be allowed to recieve benefits, however they should be allowed to recieve free healthcare.
I think the fact that we have a free healthcare system in this country is something to be very proud of.
If you think immigrants should have to pay for healthcare, would you also be happy paying for healthcare?

However, i would just like to remind people that not all immigrants are a drain on the benefits here in england. My husband is an african national (whilst i was born and raised in england), has lived here for nearly 5 years and has worked all the time living here (never missing more than 1 month of work in 5 years), never claiming any sirt if benefits, and the same can be said for all of his friends.
For the most part immigrants are hard-working people who are willing to do the jobs that many british citizens refuse to take.

PLEASE DO NOT GO ABOUT TARRING ALL IMMIGRANTS WITH THE SAME BRUSH.

bil-GP-200

these sort of question only come to light when people need someone to blame, for the lack of money in the country.i think with low pay rises,high house prices,wages not keeping up with them,we look at immigrants as the ones to have a go at.if there was plenty of money around, .people had nice houses, crime was down we would not worry about foreigners.they have always been here ,illegal immigrants..people in government are happy for us to fight each other over this issue.while they make the rich richer. on the backs of poor people,struggling to pay for house,family's cars ,and loans.we are told we are a rich country, how about the majority of people in this country having a bit of it then.no it will never happen

Hoptoad City

I agree. Immigrants are not paying taxes into the system to be able to claim benifits.

Bonnie Ayr

I don,t think ANYBODY should be able to claim benefits except disabled and very sick people.....everyone wants something for nothing nowadays..... and there wouldn,t be so many layabouts and single parents who make a career out of having babies....and the money could be used for the NHS and education

rss_beatty

If i asked for asylum and became a uk cit. I would expect to the rights and privileges of being a U.K. Cit.

As long as a person pays into a system of medical, dental, vision, health, and whatever tax structure is place in the u.k., they should have a right to draw from it.

johnnyhawkyns

Like someone just above said. I do not think that ANYBODY should be able to claim a benefit. If you have worked in UK for 5 years or more ( this applies to Brits too) you should be able to claim for 6 months and then the local council that you claim from should be allowed to use you to fill in as street sweepers etc. for as many hours as it takes to work off your benefits.
As far as Medical goes. I would not refuse it to anyone that really needs it in an emergency but then we will not have anyone unemployed so there will be lots of money for the NHS.

baby_face_paris

I don't think anyone should be able to claim benefits unless they have contributed to the system.

I'm sick of scroungers whining that it is not worth their while to work!! scum of the earth.

JEFF

i agree,that would deter them a bit maybe. i just think we should have the rules that say australia have,you should be able to support yourself. we are swamped round here now,they cant find work and are just hanging around,of a night time its worrying,the police dont care. we are not intergrating,most of them cant even speak english so how can we? its a very bad situation!

yaboo

You heartless selfish person..Asylum seekers can have terrible consequences if they go home..Besides G8 have kept the Third World poor,if some of their cit zens,seeker a better way of life..Help them..

Captain Feathersword

No...well at least not before a waiting period say 2 years. Prove yourself instead of being a burden like the Illegal Aliens are on America as soon as they cross the border.

chopper

i agree hun then they wont keep coming here cos they think england is a soft touch and they get whatever they want for free, while the english work all the time and get nothing back when they need it

eastern_eu

Personally, I think the access to benefits should be much more limited for everyone. You will both get rid of those who came here to scroung and of your native workshy benefit scroungers.
About healthcare: it's OK, I will go for a private national insurance, but then, I do not want to pay National Insurance Contribution, and also my tax should be lower.
Considering how many times I have had to use the NHS and how much NIC and taxes I pay every month, it sounds like a good deal to me.

Edit: Mamapeapa said: "...But it makes you wonder why everyone moves to England instead of France or Spain or Poland maybe???..." Have you forgot, Mama, thousands of Brits moving to Spain and France? What is this saying about the chip on someone's shoulder?

Fedup Veteran

I agree with you. It would help the US also if we didn't let foreigners (mostly illegal aliens) have benefits so easily. It is called preserving your country and nothing more than that!

trooper

To put it simply NO!

romira T

no!

and nat i was not and not a foreigner i wasn't around in past history,

p.s the native americans were foreigners too then

nusha

If a foreigner is paying the same contributions and tax that a British person is paying then why should they not be allowed to claim benefits and have access to the National Health Service when it becomes necessary?

I strongly protest at paying a third of my salary to the government in taxes and NI contributions so that thousands of long term benefit scroungers can sit at home and watch TV all day while I pay for their rent, council tax, medical prescriptions and free dental treatment.... and most of those are bone idle, British and just plain work shy

But for the genuine benefit claimants I have no problem...for the short time they are out of work they have paid in full for their benefits from their own contributions and taxes....so whatever nationality they are they deserve the best the UK can give them....

Oh Crud!

agreed, then perhaps theyll bugger off back to their own countries

hedgewytch

I totally agree. Due to ill health I had to fight for 2 years to get DLA. I am virtually housebound and unable to walk mor than a few yards. It angers me to see these immigrants, queueing up in the local DSS to get their cheques. I have lived and worked all my life here in the UK, until a ayear ago when my health forced me to stop working. I am not a scrounger, Hubby still works so we can pay all the bills. We do not get free dental, prescriptions etc. Even though my meds cosrt Â£40 a month and I cannot function without them. I get so angry that immigrants get all they want for nothing. Another point is they can claim child tax credits even though their families are still living abroad! Where is the fairness in that when kids that were born and bred in this country are living in poverty?

ladywoodboy

No. of course not, but then we are governed by weak self serving degenerate prats who treat the electorate like something that they picked up on the bottom of their shoes,

Anthony B

I agree with you 100% they come and demand asylum and the melt into this country often refusing to speak english some do live of benefits but most of all I hate the way that this country then allow them to dictate their religon and way of life above the people that were born and raised and pay taxes long b4 the came here.

they should not be allowed to claim anything.

The best opinion

There is a difference between Asylum seekers and imigrant workers

Asylum seekers should be treated as such, after determining the acccuracy of their claims, then benifits may be useful to them and I doubt anyone would really object to assisting genuine people

Imigrants should be partially self sufficient or have a sponser organisation , we should also be looking at the negative effect allowing mass imigration has on the country of origin, ie.e Afirca, if they seriously want to rebuild these countries, then the young and fit, who probably make up most of the imigrants are exactly the type of person that should be staying in their own country to help develop and improve it.

Some one who leaves a country for economic reasons, is basically deserting their own people, do we really want that type of person in this country, when things get tough here, will they contribute to our success, I doubt it, I think they left for money and they will leave for somewhere, where the grass is greener again after taking what they can from us

saxon trix

What most of you here don't seem to grasp is that the reason we live in a well off economy in Britain is because we the British poeple have made this country what it is today , hard work and dedication over decades. Our country is a magnet for economic migrants and asylum seekers because this is a ready made successful country. But what gives them the right to claim benefits? Benefits for what? They haven't worked here and never paid into the tax system. So in answer to your question I agree , they should not be allowed to claim any benefit or receive any other perks.

Andy

No, Not until you've been here at least 5 years working and paying taxes.

John & Shona C

why should i pay taxes to support any one???

Mama~peapod

I agree. In the UK, the system is not coping with the influx of immigrants (legal/illegals) Without more people putting into the system. The social security system will be a thing of the past. In the USA I can not obtain ANY social benefits. Why can the same not be for England?

There is freedom of movement to a certain extent within the EU countries. But it makes you wonder why everyone moves to England instead of France or Spain or Poland maybe??? We all know the reason the FREE social benefit system in England, as it is not for our hot summer weather, that's for sure

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