Support your local criminal, endorse slave labor?

I have heard all the arguments of the pro-criminal supporters.....they're human beings too...they're only trying to make a better life for themselves, they sweat and break their backs working hard...(and my favorite)....they work for less wage doing s*** jobs that the rest of us won't do. My logical brain is hearing...slave labor is cool, let's use these people to do our dirty work, throw some chump change at them and do it in the name of compassion/god.
For real? Let's USE them, work them hard and sweaty and at the end of the day our crops will be at market and it will have cost us next to nothing. We'll get away with it by fooling them into believing that America respects them because they are hard working humans just trying to do better for themselves. Use them, abuse them and play them for fools, let them be our slaves, they volunteered afterall. Never mind they are criminals, turn them into slaves of America!!!! Forget about liberty and justice, slavery is the better choice.
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Pro-illegals...is this really what you want? A Nation of slavery!
I understand that it is legal to use convicted criminals as slaves and I agree with this law. However, these criminals haven't been convicted of anything. Therefore it remains a violation of American law to use them as such. (Innocent until proven guilty, right) So then what....now we're a Nation of ILLEGAL slavery. Toss them a bone and the slaves will come? It can't be justified either way you look at it.

JackJester

Look out!! Any time someone voices this opinion (and we're only supporting existing laws!) they are labeled a "Racist"!!

FoxAmericaLover!

You are correct. Slave labor is what the pro illegal supporters are supporting. They also bring up that fact that they clean toilets and pick produce and we will starve to death without them. Corporations and employers of illegal immigrants are competing with the industrialized world and need to cut costs. A couple of ways is to cut health care benefits and wages to increase their profits. Our government supports them, if they get amnesty and the USA becomes a third world sh*thole, well I hope some of you are fortunate enough to be in the top half of the division between rich and poor.

PANCHA

Don't put words in my mouth warriorbabe.

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yeah

Velociraptor

I say enough. Close our borders with huge electric fences and stop letting people in.

gidget lil bit

It's not that we condone the low pay,or demeaning work,it's that they do it. I'll admit that there are some not working like this but those that do are doing it (at least the ones I know) are doing it so they can eventually get the money together to file the legal way. I don't agree with the slave type labor they are being given or the treatment,I understand why they do it. There are criminal elements and nothing is perfect. But get that many Americans in a condensed area and you will see same effect. It's not only their fault they don't assimilate Americans are suspicious by nature we also send the message YOU are different.

stealth_n700ms

...Are you an idiot? That's against the Constitution as well...only on one condition...

Amendment XIII
(1865)
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

However.. it wouldn't happen anyway.

No one is going to pay for 70 million trials just to simply convict 70 million illegals.

And if they did... the court expenses would come out of our pockets...

No...sweetheart.. that is not an answer.

fr_chuck

Yes the exact wording used to support illegal aliens is the same words used before the civil war to support slavery.

who else will do this work,

we can't afford to keep working without them

It will destroy our economy and so on.

( also same excuses used to keep min wage low and have a form of ecomonic slavery today.

Thin Kaboudit

I assume that either you aren't a real American or that you have never read or understood your country's Constitution. The 13th Amendment of the U.S.Constitution makes "general" slavery illegal, but makes a specific exception for those actually convicted of breaking the law of the land. Post-conviction, as part of the sentencing phase, it is already completely legal to make slaves of convicts. (I think this is a great idea, by the way).

This is how & why "chain-gangs" are still a legal option as punishment for crime.

Now why are the roads still in such terrible shape?

rexski

Great idea! It sounds tempting, but in reality this is what I would like to see.

We need to secure our Southern border, not just token points of security being shown to us on the news. No more illegals walking accross our borders.

As far as the illegals already here, we should give them the opportunity to stay, but they have to earn it.

I would like to see a CONDITIONAL amnesty given to all the illegals here now. (Assuming we are stopping more from coming in). The conditions ...

They must learn basic English.
They must learn some American history and culture.
They must be financially dependent, i.e., either employed or have a financial sponsor.
They must swear their allegiance to America and be signed up for the draft. (Within the draft eligibility guidelines)
They will have a FELONY conviction on their records so they can never posses a gun or vote, even if they become citizens.

They must do this within a time frame, such as 1 year. If they don't, or at least show effort after the time frame, they will be deported.

This will only work if we protect our borders. If we keep allowing them in, it's just a waste of time!

gokart121

Let's see all that 'hard work' fix MEXICO. I heard ford and gm are moving plants to mexico, get some more people employed. Too bad mexico can't start its' own car company etc., and stop just living off the US....how many more billions for the same old hard luck stories?

Hadenough

hmmmmm

We don't need them. For anything.
They need us . If I were them I would watch who toes I step on. You never know how mean people can be.

cmeand3

Either people don't bother to read the WHOLE question and details or they are just to lazy and can't do any research either.

Unless they are a convicted felon slave labor is ILLEGAL.Just as ILLEGAL as these ILLEGAL immigrants sneaking in here like the common thieves they are.
And while I have no problem with the using them since they came here I say use them to build our wall,electrify it and top it with razor wire and make sure they aren't on our side of that fence when it is done.
Gokart said it well.
If they are such hard workers why aren't they working to fix thier own country?Why aren't they protesting in THEIR country.Why here?
Oh yeah,free healthcare,foodstamps,housing great pay,no taxes.free education for all of them.
What is the downside?For them nothing.

vacant

Not only is it a demeaning life for the illegal worker, it DOES cost us MUCH more in taxes than is offset by the low cost of produce. If they were given amnesty our taxes would actually go UP!! If they stay they are keeping our wages down. If we deport them we would no longer be paying their way through our taxes. In the long run, deportation is best.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

IT CAN BE DONE!! Dwight D. Eisenhower did it with fewer patrols, we can do it, too.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060706/cm_csm/ydillin_1

sqwirl_hater

I like your ideas! Let's do it.

Texas_at_its_best

you go jack

SAVAGE

So you are saying that if we accept the pro-criminal excuses to keep them here then it is ok to USE these people as slave labor, give them a couple of pennies and let them stay right here, that will make it ok and acceptable, OOPS SORRY, YOU DIDNâ€™T SAY THAT, THE PRO-CRIMINALS ARE SAYING IT EVERY DAY.

PRO-CRIMINALS ENDORSE LAWLESSNESS AND SLAVE LABOR, THEY ARE TRAITORS TO THEIR COUNTRY AND HUMANITY.

I bet that the pro-criminals are the first to protest when some company gets busted for utilizing slave labor to maximize profits, then they endorse it by supporting illegals.

Renegade.

Use them, abuse them, and refuse them.
If we have to pay for them ,why not?

the nice one

Im a waitress and let me tell you I feel the same way you make 2.15 an hour and you get peoples crumby change if your lucky and if you dont get tipped at all then you still have to pay taxes on whatever they ate. After your done waiting tables,bussing them, and sitting yourself all day you have an hour worth of cleaning to do.

lindsslc78

Who gives a ****, if they want to come here illegal then hell ya put them to work. If they don't like it they should go home. Its not like we are keeping them here against their will, and whipping their backs. They came here illegally, they are criminals, they should be in prison, they are lucky that we are this nice to them.

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