Theres many Anti-Immigrant people here that say Mexicans have too many children?
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Theres many Anti-Immigrant people here that say Mexicans have too many children?
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which to some point it may be true because of a certain reasons.
1. Mexicans are known to be a lot more family oriented and have stronger family values than the average American.
2. Mexicans are known to be more religious and therefore know that oral contraceptives do not prevent conception but prevent implatation of the already fertilized ovum. Therefore scientifically, and morally speaking, its a form of abortion.
Is this why Mexican have bigger families and are better sons and daughters of God since they are not murdering their own children?
And yes, Im against abortion and some ignorant people here have the idea that "it is a choice to be pregnant or not, it should not fall in the hands of gov. deciding what I do with my own body". To make it simple to people with that mentality I say this;
Doesnt elected officials in gov. vow to protect you (or your unborn child) from annybody trying to kill you? Additional Details Smart opinion Angela.
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Mendi8a
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ok being anti-abortion is your right, but while I understand you, I do not agree for many reasons that I will not bore you with now. People that say Mexicans have too many children need to mind their own business. It is nobodys business how many children you have as long as you do not abuse, or neglect them....then it becomes the law's business. |
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One Sexy Jeep Girl
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personally I'm not anti-immigrant but I am anti-illegal immigrant. |
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Yukaza
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I personally don't care how many children Mexicans have,they are more than welcome to have as many as they desire.But if they come to this country illegally they become the USAs problem. Have all you want just don't come here illegally.don't even try that morality lie on me .Moral people don't sneak into another country illegally.Moral people don't break laws.You don't have any more family values than any other race of people,and you aren't more religious.You are just people with all the good and all the bad of every other race.I can site you 10 to 15 cases from CPS where Mexican men have killed their own or their girl friends children so another untruth.And Mexican men beat their women and wives.
No amnesty and deportation not legalization.
After all this is the immigration category isn't it?
If they don't hit their women any more then why is Phoenix Domestic Court so full of Mexicans being charged with domestic violence?It still prevalent in Mexican society. |
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OK but you need to have them over in Mexico on the Mexican welfare system not the USA |
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razeumright
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I don't care how many children Mexicans have in Mexico, or how many legal immigrants from Mexico have in this country, as long as they are supporting them, but if my tax dollars have to pay for them I don't care if your Mexican or from mars, STOP!!!! Nothing wrong with big families, have one myself but I raised them without taxpayers money, okay they all went to public schools but I fed and clothed and X boxed them all with my income. It's not how many children a couple have it's how responsible they are for them that matter's to me. |
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chezchez19
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I come from a large family.
I don't think anyone hates us for that.
We are legal.
The fact that our family originated in Mexico means nothing.
The fact that we are here legally and take care of our own childrens welfare without government assistance makes the difference. |
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Carol R
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Mexican families tend to be large, but so were immigrant families from Italy and Ireland...it was more to do with thier religion than their family values. As long as families can support the large number of children, there shouldn't be any issue with having them. This country was founded mainly because of the dream of religous freedom, Catholics deserve the same freedom of religious belief as any other religion. |
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Bob
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As long as Illegal and yes i said ILLEGAL immigrants have them in Mexico i could care less how many they have.
When ILLEGAL immigrants have them here and then leach off of the U.S. welfare system that's what I'm against. I welcome all LEGAL immigrants, that's what has made this country great. But it's the illegal ones that are tearing it apart |
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fathead
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The fact that you don't acknowledge the opposition is to ILLEGAL immigration and try to pound a non-issue instead is laughable. |
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angela R
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Bravo Alberto! I am also pro life.....Well said.....I agree with you....On a side note, I think 2nd and 3rd generation Mexican Americans do become more Americanized and have less children....Just my opinion though! |
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mamidescarlett@sbcglobal.net
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hey im also pro-life and mexican but i only have one daughter i plan to adopt more kids |
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tinkywinkerz
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mexican or not not everyone thinks that way so i hope this is realized and the above statemetns may not all be proved...im mexican and personally i think that regardless of what anyone says taking oral contraceptives is a personal choice......im against abortion too and dont plan on having a big family or a baby anytime soon....i know of many families...relatives who only have 1 or 2 kids...no more than "american" families so i dont know i guess thats a personal choice too.
HELLS ANGELS that is rude and dumb to say simply because you are placing your views and STEREOTYPES about mexicans out there.... |
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ken y
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i have probably fathered five or ten Mexicans my self
and never cost me more than $20 |
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gidget lil bit
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Ok your right on all levels I've never seen (and I live in Texas) a closer knit loving family than a Mexican family that goes for the extended family as well. I am pro-choice for others I personally could not have an abortion for myself but I would fight for someones right to an abortion. I don't think the government has right to say when someone should die or live at the same time I don't have a problem with the death penalty if it's proven that the crime fits the punishment without a single doubt. It scares me to know that anybody but me can make these kinds of decisions |
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thelogicalferret
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while i understand their opinion on oral contraceptive, this is not true of the condom, it in fact does prevent conception. i too am pro-life. that said many people all over the world have many children, for many different reasons.
I also disagree with Angels Raising Hell, every culture, every country has violence in it somewhere. turn on any Colorado news channel and you will be appalled, i had to stop watching after a while, every news story was about a murder, rape, drive-by or some other horrible violent crime, there was never any good news. |
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naphtli
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Where does the bias for stronger family values for Mexicans come from?
An American family that has two children can spend plenty of time with each child, to give them the attention they deserve. A
smaller family means the family will have a larger amount of money to spend on the children's clothing, food, housing, and savings for education.
A Mexican family with ten children has parents that can barely remember all of the children's name, let alone spend time with each one. They can't afford decent housing or proper food, and if they can, it's only with assistance from the government.
Having a large family has nothing to do with 'family values' and it has nothing to do with a religious disposition against birth control.
It has everything to do with lack of self discipline. Let me say that again for you folks that didn't hear it. It is lack of self discipline. And one more time for the thick-headed liberals. It is lack of self discipline, not some mythical stereotype that Mexican have stronger family values.
If Mexicans worked as hard as all of the pro-illegals claim they do, if they had smaller families, they wouldn't have to rely on the government at all... |
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ALWAYS GOTTA KNOW
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Alberto, you are an angry man but your anger is misplaced. You and I know of the criminals that populate the government of Mexico that by design and by force keep the populace poor, hungry, in substandard housing and without hope unless they flee to Amerca. We know that government assisted border penetration into America and out of Mexico is done primarily to support the Mexican government and to thin the ranks of the poor in Mexico to lessen chances of a revolution. You and I despise the wholesale abuse of Mexican citizens by the government, by the activists - legal and illegal, on both sides of the border - and by the overwhelming majority of U.S. politicians. Once here the poor Mexican is brought into a slave labor market by greedy business owners and the large corporations, etc. and also used as a shield by the Mexican activists against the huge mounting outcry of American citizens, including Mexican-Americans, against the racism born and bred in Mexico and transplanted to the U.S. Once here, the American citizen bares the burden of most of the support of the illegal invaders who, in a display of their appreciation, march angrily in the streets of America carrying the Mexican flag and demanding their "rights." There are no rights extended to invaders. There will be no amnesty, there will be a guest worker's program and the Mexican-American politicians who have wet dreams seeing themselves as President of the U.S and all of the other elected offices, are losing the battle and failing in a tailspin of increasing anger, tempers and outright hatred of America. You and I are saddened to know of the misplaced anger of these politicians who must lie and spin every issue to try to save face. You, I and the politicos know the corrupt 5% of Mexico own about 95% of the great wealth of that country. And, the activists who inflame the poor and lie to them, need the corruption of Mexico brought here to make them one of the 5% stealing the wealth, this time, of America.
You and I have so much in common because you and I know of the horrible truth about Mexico and we cry because we cannot personally go down there and do away with the corruption and those who corrupt. You and I are among the really good guys who are called the bad guys because words can be spun and the spinning has reached epidemic. |
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Mrs. Batista
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I agree with you 100%. |
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College Guy
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You are right. I know because I am Mexican; however, I guess you can say I am an American (I have live most of my life in the US). Since I moved to the US, I have become pro-abortion, as long it is not after the embrionic stage. |
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butterflyspy
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Your full of it.I had a Mexican boyfreind say he was going cut up my face so no other man would want me.Oh yeah they treat their women with a ton of respect.Your a Fake |
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The Phoenix
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Why do you act like Mexicans are so much better than Americans? I think you have a major inferiority complex about your "great" culture because you keep dissing Americans, (envious maybe?) You made a comment about Mexicans being better sons and daughters of God, you have no right to make such a statement. God judges us all, and the last time I checked, his opinion is the only one that matters.... |
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DJ
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I agree with you about abortion, and I really don't care how many kids Mexicans have. I just don't think it's fair to have about fourteen of them and then say "Oh my poor starving babies! How ever shall I feed them? I know, I'll illegally cross the border to steal a good job from those selfish lazy Americans! Then I will bring my whole family for them to support with their programs! If they don't like it I'll call them racists and demand amnesty! They should take care of us because of our fine family values!" <<<<<<<<As long as you don't do that then it's not my business how you live your lives.
I'm tempted to think it's the entitled feeling illegals who are giving me the thumbs down. But seriously, I'd bet it's the pro-illegals who have turned their backs on their own people who are doing it. So tell me guys, why is it okay for them to do it but we should know better? Do we have to keep ourselves available to help them, is that why we shouldn't have fine large families too?
I've been taught all my life to not have kids I can't take care of, yet the same people who tell me to plug it also tell me I have to support these fine illegals' families. I am tired of the discrimination, and will speak about it no matter what the bleeding hearts or the fine illegals say. |
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DR. Z
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keep trying to justify your mexican brothers ignorance but we all know that the stereotype is much more accurate then your spin |
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princess_29_71
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They don't have the minuscule amount of brains it takes to know that having 15 or 20 kids doesn't make any sense at all when you can't even take care of yourself. It's stupid. Period. |
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eastern_mountain_outdoors
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So this is what 10lbs of crap in a 5lb question looks like? |
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DAR
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Alberto, if Mexican men uniformly treat their wives with respect, why is there a whole section in that 'how to cross the border' pamphlet the Mexican government passes out that tells people to be careful not to commit domestic violence in the US, because they can get arrested?
I think we have as good family values and that religion varies in both countries.
Theft isn't OK though, and even the Pope approves the rhythm method.
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/illegal_alien_comic_book/GuiaDelMigranteMexicano.pdf
http://graphic.pepperdine.edu/perspectives/2005/2005-01-13-border.htm |
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john d
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since when did the concept of stronger family values come from illegal mexicans? Your understanding of the pathology of oral contraceptives is flawed.
Why do 80% of the domestic disturbance calls to my sherriffs dept. require a spanish translator at the scene.
I think your topic is worthy of disscussion but I think you need to rethink your position and your points. Yes we could have a brisk debate but your not ready yet.
If mexico is the source of family values, why are they in a hurry to come here? Shouldn't it be like utopia down there? How can they run all those drugs and kidnap all those young girls off the street in broad daylight with all those family values? How can they have such a corrupt police force with all those values? How can they have so many problems with all those family values? I would put out for debate that they come here starving for family values rather than because they have any values. If they did have values, they would not be in such a hurry to become illegal.
A person with real values would set out to do it right the first time even if it was hard. Thats what people with values do.
So is this about illegal vs legal imigration or values or abortion? |
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ThatguyPete
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What do you mean by 'Mexicans'? If you mean ILLEGAL Mexicans over HERE having a ton of kids, that is wrong. If you mean LEGAL U.S. citizens (from Mexico) having children, who cares? Although if that is the case, then why are you calling them Mexicans? You should be calling them Mexican-Americans...or aren't you proud to be an American? |
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bugsbunnylookalike2001
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Live and let live! And by the way your arguments are LAME! |
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