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To anyone agains illegal immigration!?
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So this is propaganda! you claim illegals dont pay taxes
http://www.reason.org/news/show/122411.html
You also claim they get free benifits or abuse benifits from the government. like, food stamps, or any type of healthcare
http://redblueamerica.com/truthornot/2008-04-03/do-illegal-immigrants-receive-more-government-benefits-they-pay-taxes-2300
Thes are false statements. i know many immigrants and came from an immigrant family. they do pay taxes with an ITIN number issued by the IRS. They dont ask for help from the government due to their status and the ones who are gettin help are those who are here legally. they might look illegal but arent or else they wouldnt know where to go and what to do to get help from the governement. why are people so angy about this? is it racism? is it what Obama said, It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” As if pointing the finger at others will relieve oneself or conpensate for ones anger and frustrations? Additional Details no these are illegal aliens im speaking of. believe it or not what i wrote above is a fact on illegal immigrants. u can find many scholarly articles on this.
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♥♥Cheelicious♥♥♥
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Interesting articles. I never believe the biased propaganda from the other side anyway. And by the way the other side reserves the right to misspell words and post old articles, there was one that was 10 years old the other day and they were doing the victory dance.. |
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stg44mp44
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No buddy, just because "reason" and "redblueamerica" say so doesn't make it so. Check UNBIASED sources, you know, actual data instead of propaganda. |
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William O
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So you found 2 biased sources! Good for you! How about the FBI?
FBI Statistical reports:
62% of illegal aliens work for cash and pay no taxes
Over 43% of all food stamps go to illegal aliens
over 41% of all unemployment checks go to illegal aliens
58% of welfare payments go to illegal aliens
nearly 60% of all occupants in HUD housing are illegal aliens
You do know that it is a federal felony to use an ITIN to pay taxes on wages? Now if they want to cling to something how about their country of origin? |
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Diablo
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Illegals cost L.A. over a billion dollars ever year, that's a fact son. |
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AnnaMarie
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true every minority has had its fair share of hurt from others, however the difference between the hispanic minorities and other minorities is the large number of illegals immigrants that use the ERs as free clinics, and the staunch refusal to Americanize such as by learning the language as our ancestors did that angers people. In a way they kind of stand out to get picked on. |
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dipstick
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I believe one high profile pro-illegal on here said it best, don't believe everything you read. But that guys is a hypocrite because he believe's everything he reads about how good these invaders are, most of what is skewed. |
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Cricket
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Illegal immigrants don't pay taxes because if they do, they'd expose themselves of the crime they committed which entering the U.S. undocumented. Most of them work under the table and get paid in cash only. This way, employers don't have to give them high wages, or pay health benefits and payroll taxes. |
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Openly Straight
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Have you seen the part in Schindler's List where they are clearing out the Warsaw Ghetto? Raiding buildings, luggage thrown over the rails, police dogs barking, herding them off like cattle? That's my solution to "what to do with illegal immigrants." Maybe we could use tazers instead of shooting them dead, though.
Clear out the illegals, send them packing and let them fix up their own damn country instead of flooding ours. And if they want to come back here legally, then sure! No problem! Just do it LEGALLY.
Would you call someone who broke into your home an "undocumented houseguest?" It's the same exact thing, just on a national scale. This is our country, what gives them the right? If your heart bleeds for them so badly, open up your own home. Put your money where your mouth is.
PS: If we did throw out all the illegals overnight, then the gang activity would drop by at least half overnight as well. Wouldn't that be nice?? |
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busseysmom
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Chew on this for a while Menace, and then get back to us:
http://townhall.com/columnists/PhyllisSchlafly/2008/04/21/report_uncovers_hidden_cost_of_immigration?page=full&comments=true
and this:
http://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issues/12701-cost-of-tomatoes.html
Study after study after study has shown that illegals COST taxpayers billions per year. If they all went away, as you suggest:
1. Our medical costs would decrease because hospitals and ERs wouldn't have to charge insureds a premium to subsidize their forced charity to illegals.
2. We wouldn't need to build new schools because the ones we have would accommodate Americans just fine.
3. Our commutes would be faster with less clogged freeways.
4. California wouldn't have overstressed water supplies and power grids.
5. We wouldn't need to fund translation of everything government into Spanish.
6. The price of tomatoes would be about the same despite pro-illegals' baseless arguments. The reason is that the majority of the cost of produce is not in the picking of it-- it's in the shipping and packaging. Even if the price of the proverbial tomato went up, I'm willing to bet that 105% of Americans would prefer to pay a little more, knowing that our country was finally coming to its senses regarding immigration. |
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Joel W
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Well menace... if you ever looked, you would discover the Federal Government, NOR anyone else knows how many illegal aliens are in this country. She is blowing wind out of her backside when she says 2/3rds do pay those taxes and so forth.
Illegal aliens use fake I.D.s very extensively. They do not have fingerprints associated with those fake I.D.s, and when they want to take off and not get caught, they can. Because the Mexican Mafia sells three for $1,500, and they are pretty good I.D.s in the sense that they may not be caught by the Fake SS Number, they can be used for welfare programs.. and as citizens. Others can be used to get a job, and generally, the misuse of the I.D. is as extensively criminal as it can get.
Where the illegal aliens don't have fake I.D.s, they take their money under the table, and don't pay any wages at all on them. So all in all, the Congress currently is helping a huge grey area of our society build a very thoroughly criminal society. Ole' Harry and Nancy probably think that is cute. But the citizens don't...
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August Welfare Costs For LA County Released
Friday, 26 September 2008
Supervisor Antonovich breaks down the numbers.
http://www.hometownstation.com/local-news/la-county-welfare-2008-09-26-03-26-2.html
New statistics from the Department of Public Social Services reveal that illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected nearly $37 million in welfare and food stamp allocations, announced Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich.
In August, illegals collected over $19 million in welfare assistance and over $17 million in monthly food stamp allocations, for a projected annual cost of $432 million. Nearly twenty five percent of all welfare and food stamps benefits is going directly to the children of illegal aliens.
Illegal immigration continues to have a devastating impact on Los Angeles County taxpayers, said Antonovich. Annually, the cost of illegal immigration to Los Angeles County taxpayers exceeds one billion dollars, which includes $220 million for public safety, $400 million for healthcare, and $432 million in welfare allocations. This does not include millions of dollars for education.
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Trust me on this one bubba... it is gonna come to an end and soon. |
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mimi
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WOW thanks for a write up that was done 3 yrs ago and based on a study done 12 years ago.How long did it take you to dig this one up.And just because you read it in a newspaper doesn't make it so.As someone that has seen it 1st hand in the medical field I can still say on my mother and fathers graves I know for a fact that illegals get welfare and don't pay taxes.Not saying that all don't just saying that most all don't..I just wonder sometimes why people want to take up for illegals that come here and take what is rightfully legal immigrants and Americans....I guess its ok with you if someone comes and steals everything from your home while you are at work.Same analogy both is theft by someone that is taking something that doesn't belong to them.... |
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mrNiceguy
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My Dad is a Army veteran who are so deserve to be in this country and not only Hes a big Hero in my X-pist of **** country Hes so Americanise and love this country so much cause He knows the meaning of being in this great country. For that We all the family made it here. That's how supposed to be. You have to earned it in a great way and a legal way. Jumping from the border Illegally is Illegal and the word it self describe it. I dont think racism is the issue here.
I cant blame this people who jump in the border but i blame that government and all I can say is Accept it! that this country is just onother 3world pist of **** country like were I came from. |
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dee
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Menace J and you other bleeding heart liberals, why do you think it is so good for all these illegal immigrants to be taking over our country? Are you so against how our country has been for you as a citizen that you want to turn it into a third world country? Are you satisfied to imagine yourself working for a couple bucks and hour so anyone who wants to can come to this country and flood the job market with uneducated workers? Why do you think it is wrong for all these people to have to wait in line to come here legally? Could it possibly be the fact that many of them have police records and wouldn't qualify to come into our country? Why do you fail to recognize all the reports put out about the illegal immigrant belonging to gangs here in America and so many of them being drug smugglers and drug peddlers here in America? Why do you fail to recognize the fact that the emergency rooms of most major metropolitan hospitals are filled with illegal immigrants? I suggest all of you who feel so strongly about these things should pack a water bottle or two and go to Arizona and walk across the desert and cross the river into Mexico and try to survive there for awhile with no Mexican papers. Check out how much government welfare payments, how many food stamps, how many jobs are available to you. You sure won't be missed here in My Country, and you will be in the Country You seem to want My Country to become. |
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tropics11
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Fact....!!!!! I absolutely know this is happening....KNOW IT. I know illegals here that absolutely do get free medical, I do not care what you say....I was there I seen it, not only 1 operation but 2, since the first did not work. I live in an agricultural area, these people live in barns, old houses, drink and drive all the time, I have lost friends from this. They buy used Social Security numbers.....they are working in the woods, big article in our newspaper regarding it. It turns into racism when they bring in drugs, rape, kill, leach, drink drive, steal, fight, have litter of kids. Talk filthy to us women.....The come here knowing they can get free medical, watch t.v. the women come here have anchor babies on us tax payers.....We cannot afford it anymore go home stay home. I use to work with the welfare department....I know what the hell is happening. |
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Michael D
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of course they abuse the system. why did they come here if they could get the same benefits where they are from? oh yea, they can't get them there. you illegals are breaking the law in my country. GO HOME! YOU WERE NOT INVITED! |
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Bush43
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You said illegal aliens! The Government is unaware of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Aliens with green cards are different. They know about them. They are not illegal, they were accepted! |
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tony tedeschi
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Point yourself south and keep walking..... |
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Cbrivera0217
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School the anti illegals! Good job! You all who are against don't care about humanity in general! |
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GreasyTony is back
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My continuous point exactly! they claim this about illegal immigrants, they claim that.....but never come on here with facts! just bogus numbers they throw out, and William O is one of them.
Even if the reports are from reliable sources, they still deny it!....LOL
Illegal immigrants' value to economy? $1.8 trillion
If the 8.1 million undocumented immigrants who cut lawns, bus tables and perform other jobs disappeared overnight, the nation's economy would lose nearly $1.8 trillion in annual spending.
Texas, the second-hardest-hit state after California, would lose 1.2 million undocumented workers and $220.7 billion in expenditures.
These are just some of the findings from a study done by the Perryman Group, a Waco-based economic analysis firm, whose work was commissioned by Americans for Immigration Reform, a group spearheaded by the Greater Houston Partnership.
Read more: http://www.perrymangroup.com/ |
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Illegal immigration - a suggestion? |
| I have heard and read that millions of dollars that illegal immigrants earn here in the U.S does not go back into our economy, like it should. But, it is sent back to the illegal immigrants families ... |
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How do the people in the people in the UK and Ireland think of the USA? |
| I know people from the USA who will tell people they are from Canada when they travel in other countries.... |
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Why do you guys want us to hate illegal immigrants? |
Cuz if we don't you Guys don't even listen you just give us a dumbs down.. Additional Details My teacher College teacher use to get angry because I did not agree with her.... |
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Mexican Immigrants? Let me rephrase.? |
Shouldn't we be more concerned with Arab or Persian immigrants, legal or otherwise? What about those from Muslim Africa?
Consider:
1) Mexican's are descendents of the S... |
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Just how educated are you? |
| How much do all you really know about what it takes to immigrate to this country? I will give you a scenario. A woman meets a man (or vice versa) and falls completely in love with him/her. They ... |
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Why do Americans always think the UK is just England? |
| Its not fair, its also scotland, wales, northern ireland as well. And its not the queen of england its the queen of ... |
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Should we remove the concept of borders and nationality from our consciousness? |
If existing ceases to be illegal, would we evolve toward reaching a greater understanding of truth? Additional Details Phillip H. you are a facist. Read what you wrote for an answer and ... |
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Why do hispanics that come here refuse to learn english? |
| doesnt it make sense to learn the language. Thats the first step in becoming "american" or "assimilating"... |
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WHO's GONNA PICK OUR FRUITS & VEGITABLES, TODAY? |
I'M HUNGRY!!!!!!!!!!! Additional Details BY Chance, yes, my family owns 60 acres walnuts & 100 acres almonds. we have illeagals prune the trees, but harvesting is purely ... |
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Anchor babies? |
Why are babies of ILLEGAL immigrants allowed US citizenship? If a bank robber gives the money to his/her children do they get to keep it? Additional Details uhhh... Mr Pototo head, get a ... |
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Mexican immigrants...? |
| Why in the world have illegal immigrants shut down 5 major hospitals in the LA area!? Now we have to drive further, and have a hospital full of employees un-employed due to this crap!! Seal the ... |
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If you threw a Greencard at a Muslim in the mideast who badmouths us(USA),do you think he/she would move here? |
| If you threw a Greencard at the Muslims in the mideast who badmouth us (USA), they would move here? I would say "yes". I beleive they hate the idea that they are not here living a free and ... |
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If the UK is receiving terrorist threats from the Middle East...? |
... and are expecting another bombing in the future, then why are we still letting thousands and thousands of people from places such as Iraq, Iran, ect... into Britain?
I'm not ... |
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