(UK) Would like to send all Poles back home?Who would replace them as workforce.?

credit-crunch

thats a very fine line u r walking on there me ode! where is your source to say UK wants to send all poles back, and why|? the polish peeps i work with, work a damn site harder than the rest of the posse!

Stephen M

who wants to send all poles home?

only the BNP are that shortsighted. We are very happy for poles to be as long as they are working and contributing to society and integrating with the british.

We just want to get rid of the ones that are sponging off us and reduce the numbers coming in because there aren't enough available jobs to sustain the numbers coming in.

resignedtolife

Not at the moment but I would like to see all of our less academically inclined youngsters taught a trade in the way they used to be. That will give them a productive life, decrease the crime rate and provide good workers from our own indigenous population. No wonder they are so aimless, they have no hope.

tony12

Since when the Poles are the work force in UK? For my knowledge there are more than one million British without a job. I don't think UK economy will crash for that either way.

mischievous

No, they majority come here to work and in general they do a fine job showing up others who have little job satisfaction.

~welsh harri~

no i wouldnt like to send them home my brother worked on a site and he said they were like the only nice people to him and they are all legends and are not self absorbed at all very humble.

LadyMoonlight!!

I would send a lot of them home. We have too many economic migrants right now.

As for who would replace them, well the skilled jobs could be filled by British workers who are either skilled but struggling to find work or who are unskilled but willing to train and need training to be able to take advantage of skilled opportunities (my partner is currently in this situation - unskilled but we cannot get funding or finance to pay his course fees for him to get a skill).

Perhaps the Government could start to GIVE a crap about its own people and offering funding for training courses so that British people who are currently doing crappy service industry work (callcentres etc for Â£6 per hour) or unskilled work could have a crack at a skilled trade and the opportunities for good pay which it brings.

The unskilled jobs could be filled by those who are currently claiming dole/incapacity benefit without good reason (stop all their benefits if they refuse). Also school leavers etc.

We don't need Poles as a "workforce". We need the Government to WAKE UP and see the potential within British workers - offer funding for those who want to train and force those who "don't want to work" into a job!!! Then the "Poles" would be totally superfluous to requirements.

Alfonze H

There are far too many Poles here. We should have put a 250, 000 limit on Poles coming over here. They do work hard but they cost more than they bring in by overstretching the infrastructure.
The jobs they do are only there because the unscrupulous employers want to get away with paying low wages. Employers should be made to pay decent wages and provide training and help to employ local people and help local communities.
We have enough people here to fulfill this, the Poles are exploited..they feel resentful and a lot of people here are resentful toward them for being here using up our resources on an already overcrowded island.

jpat1023

We got plenty of cheap, illegal "workforce" over here in America...I'm sure we could loan you a few million...

skunk

The Brits that are unemployed . These foreigner should be made to go back to their own country and take their kid with them .

Its a disgrace how the proper Brits are treated in their own country .

As for the Muslims , they are a evil race . Islam should be banned .

terri-tory-al

how about the one and a half million people that are currently unemployed?

slicktop80

I'm sure that it was not you, but I took a real hiding from a UK citizen via e-mail for my comments about illegal immigrants.

What's the deal with Poles in the UK?

thingy

If you're an employer, would you want ...

a) An immigrant worker who will work hard because he's just happy to have a job

b) A British thug who couldn't give a monkeys about you or the job but has been forced to work by the benefit office?

That's why we will always have and need immigrants.

trigga1uk

In the south east where i live the poles have taken all the jobs for people looking to make money between school and university. Theres a polish clique thing going on where english people applying for such jobs are told 'we dont you'll fit in'. We dont have to send all the poles home but we dont need over 600,000 of them. And the polish government is now saying their economy is suffereing because all the engineering graduates are over here mopping up vomit in a hospital rather than engineering in poland - so is this what the EU is? Are all europeans going to adpat the 'if i go there i can earn more' attitude? As with everything in life there is a limit, when areas of the country become polish only - the line has been crossed.

Ladymoon: actually you said it even better than me, we dont need immigrant workers, we need to end benefits and get our own scumbags to mop up vomit in a hospital.

Drippery: do you really think getting rid of the poles and the USA sending back all the UK descendants is the same thing? Yes the uk expats left the uk but it wasn't so financially motivated and it such a short period in such massive numbers. Comparing the current immigration problem with Brit expats moving abroad is totally unrealistic.

pin ball

i agree with ladymoon. she says it all very nicely. and the person below her too. well said both of you.

princekeyuk

How about some of the 8 million sick/dole/economically inactive people that we have in this country already?Whoops I forgot, they're better off on benefits than working!The Poles do a good job, I feel sorry for them wanting to come to this highly-taxed, gloomy, chav-ridden sh*thole!

My Grain

The British.There's a load of British manual workers trying to get work but can't cos they're British!

davros

Tricky one this. Yes, our infrastructure cannot cope with a sudden increase of people from eastern Europe, (not just pole's), but remember we also have many jobs which English people just will not do; either because it is a gutty job , or poorly paid. their wages are also put back into local community, so we do benefit. Anyway lots of us emigrate every year, and are welcomed in their new country. I think a full stop on immigrants after a certain date may be an idea to keep the balance, .then 4 to 5 years later open the gates again for a short period.

mr. singh

indians ofcourse

Croney

No they cant all be sent home but - i think that they should at least have the decency to learn and speak english rather than shout at me in polish when they want something and i dont know what it is. It seems that they have not yet mastered the art of queuing up to get something as they seem to think its their right to go straight to the front. Also in my town there is lots of graffitti lately - maybe its not all polish but its certainly eastern european. A town not too far from me is full of immigrants - so much so that there is a feud between them all! This has lead to fights and evn more anti social behaviour, and unforunately murder. A lesser example of this is that at a local nursing home there were lots of immigrant workers - first problem, elderly people many with bad hearing cant understand them - the second problem is that half of the staff were polish, the other half lithuanian and the refused point blank to talk to each other! How can that be good? Surely thats also dangerous in a nursing home environment and now think of the employer - he cant get rid of one half and not the other because he'd be a racist. But he can hardly go on like it is now. Whats more everyone in Britain whos had a bad experience with immigrants or anyone who doesnt wish to sing their praises - is called a racist! How can that be right? Call me racist if you like but thats the truth and thats just things that i myself have seen. I know of plenty of other stories but i wont go into them. Its probably unfair to say 'poles' in every case because they receive alot of abuse where its other groups that are at fault. As for the workforce im sure it would be filled somehow, employers having to raise wages and conditions to attract people into jobs cant be a bad thing can it?

fireblood

alot of them are draft dodgers back home in poland .

jenkin1950

No, I do not want to send them back to Poland. I echo some of your other respondents - Poles (and other immigrant workers) will do some of the horrible jobs that UK people think are beneath them. But those UK people would rather claim benefit than clean toilets, clean streets, look after demanding demented people in care homes, wash cars, and so forth. The Polish workers that I have met have always been taken 'under my wing' so I make sure that they learn English, for example. But then I also take them out for a drink and a meal and to clubs and to London, I try to stop them feeling isolated and lonely. But Polish people are the same as people everywhere, some will mix, some won't.
When I think about it, the issue is not Polishness or Englishness or anything like that, it comes down to being people, and to belonging to the human race.

realdolby

They come here to avoid the compulsory national service in Poland.It is for only 9 months now thats patriotic.Because this is a legal requirement we are harboring criminals.

chip2001

Personally, I have no problem with those who have come here with a genuine desire to work.
The problems are more the fact that with over 500,000 extra people suddenly in the UK, the strain on our already over-stretched resources is too much.
Housing and medical care for example; we already had problems in these sectors, without having to cope with this flood of immigrants.

AL J

How about the 2000 Brits claiming invalidity benefit because they are too fat ! - are the Poles "stealing" their jobs ? - No, they choose to eat lard all day rather than work.

one shot

The long term unemployed on a "take the job or lose your benefits" system. When they're all working then let a few back in to fill the gaps.

ketkonen

I am starting to feel sorry for the Poles. There is too much pole bashing going on. I work alongside poles and they are not so different from us. Some of them work hard but a lot of them do not. They complain to me they are overworked and they like to have a good chat like anyone else. They come from an agency and their pay and conditions are worse than mine. They have come here legally and a lot of them are not happy with what they find here, but as one of them said to 'for us this is like you working in Dubai ' i.e., a chance to get some money together. Apparently Poland might be joining the Euro in 2009 and that be the end of lots of Poles wanting to work here as it probably won't be worth their while financially.
The real problem in Britain is that business is always dreaming about finding cheap sources of foreign semi slave labour. A dream it is to, as nowhere in the world do people willingly want to kill themselves with work in return for comparatively meagre rewards forever, though I suppose garment workers in Bangladesh do. But are the UK government really looking to create somewhere like Bangladesh ? Real problem is that there loads of unemployed British people, they should be placed in work first. But the love affair with foreign labour means that won't happen. They will continue to have a shadow existance on benefits

mike UK

The problem is not so much the Poles, they are European people and have shown a real ability to adapt to the UK. It is the 2 million Muslim community which shows little sign of adapting to western civilisation which is the problem in my opinion. When the Polish living standard rises due to EU and western organisation some Poles will return to Poland. Muslims on the other hand have no organised and advanced country to return to.

Edit. We have just made the best country on earth, that is why they come for heavens sake , it is laughable that they leave a country which has failed ( that is why they leave)---then when in the UK they tell US that we cannot do without them. Boy! I have really heard it all now.

eekeek1992

I live in the uk and believe that the poles are excellent. They are helping us here to boost our economy and also help places become more multi-cultured. I really do not know who woulkd reeplace them though. I emna people are going on about the poles taking peoples jobs but they are doing jobs that people do not want to do like cleaning. I think that they are very useful.

DEZ

The Bulgarians and Romanians!
Already the Government want to lift the restrictions on employment for them as they are not enougj workers in London are fro the olympic city. And this is because Poles don't work anymore ,just claim benefit
This way the Poles won't abuse the system anymore regarding benefits

Stimpson J. Cat

We have plenty of Mexicans, you can have some of them!

British

This is the business owners who get cheap labour saying what a damn fine job they do and how hard they work - total rubbish I work with them and most are lazy, surly and rude to customers and allot of them have alcohol or drug problems is something very common in Poles. Allot of workers are here because there is a warrant for their arrest in Poland and they face prosecution. Being here simply allows them to escape justice. Its very hurtful to say to people on benefits that they dont want a job and would rather stay on benefits it makes people very angry. The first time in my life I meet Neo Nazis in this country they are from Poland and Hungary. Polish Nazis - do you get the joke? They dont.

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