What about the illegals that DO pay their taxes?

Melissa C

Let's all take them out for a Corona! My treat!!!

King Midas

How can you pay taxes without a social security number, or an alien registration number.

Fortune Favors the Brave

How can illegals pay taxes when they are floating around under the radar? I have no problem with the people that come to this country and play by the rules, learn the language and contribute something other than a bunch of obnoxious walk-outs for NO reason. Why should we support the ones that are just leeching off our society?

Chuck

All people--citizens, visitors, tourists, illegals--in the United States pay taxes in the form of state and local sales taxes. Everyone who owns or rents any kind of dwelling (even a hotel room) also pays the property taxes on that dwelling--they may pay it directly as an owner or indirectly as a renter, but they certainly do pay. These two taxes constitute 95% of the funding for education and many other social services in the U.S. The notion that the children of illegal immigrants are somehow getting a "free ride" by going to school is a fallacy.

Now then--on the federal taxes.

Almost all illegal workers make very little money and often have multiple dependents. Even if they did file a return, the vast majority of these workers would owe no federal taxes at all, or only a token amount at best.

However, illegal workers do pay federal taxes in a big way. In fact, the Social Security Administration estimates that about three-fourths of illegal workers in the United States pay taxes.

These workers pay into the Social Security system through payroll taxes, and this has produced a windfall of about $7 billion (yes, that's billion with a "b") in Social Security taxes and another $1.5 billion in Medicare. Although they cannot receive benefits from these programs, they are indeed paying taxes to support the Social Security system.

I support improving legal immigration, but nothing good can come of throwing out taxpaying immigrants who have proven they want to work hard to support their families.

gtoacp

They have broken the law and should be punished and sent home. Nothing else is relevant.

kathy

illegal immigrants do pay taxes... just not the kind that all of the above are referring to

you know when you go to the store and you buy something... you have to pay extra money and they call that extra money SALES TAX
we get some of that money back in tax returns but none of the illegals do
i don't think its right to deport immigrants and not just because our society is built on their work and we wouldn't be able to function without them. they came here for a better life, yet we treat them horribly just because we think we're better than them because we were born here but remember that unless you're native american, your family is part of that immigrant population

they just want a better life and really, we need them more than they need us

nipopazleh

illegals can't pay taxes

Eros21

illegals dont pay their taxes if they did then they would be caught and deported, well not deported but asked to leave the country then forgotten about.

Steelers1

Illegal is illegal. Get out!

akablackbetty

how do they pay taxes ?without a social security number? they have no paper work, what so ever for being here. thats why they are illegal.and for the last time, they dont do that much work here.

Answerman

What part of illegal do you not understand. Illegal = Not legal.

sister_godzilla

Yes, I want them out because they are illegal.

I don't understand why so many people have a problem understanding the term "illegal".

bunt

Yes, thank you! Millions like me on expired visas DO pay taxes!!!
All the ignorant Americans have no clue how many of us have come legally and contribute to US economy as much as any US citizen.

hmmmmm.

It doesn't matter the problem here is the word "ILLEGAL". Regardless if they pay taxes or not they are not here "LEGALLY"

â™¥micheleâ™¥

just become U.S. citizens.... what is the issue?

Ricky

What about a thief that pays his taxes? Would you still want him to go to jail? Of course. Quit trying to justify breaking the law.

hayleylov

most do not and it should by no means be a way to buy your way in illegally there are people waiting to come legal

Sashie

If they are illegal, and paying taxes, then they are still illegal ... border security is of the utmost, and that's what we have to concentrate on ... businesses who hire illegals and who deduct taxes are worse than the illegals themselves in my opinion ... go after the corporations big time ... give them heavy fines ... for those small businesses who have difficulties and have to wait for our unwilling bureaucracy to verify SSNs ... give them proper, workable tools to check names against SSNs ... no sensitive information has to be given out by checking just that ... names against numbers ...

yars232c

even if they did pay taxes so what? so do I and I am not above the law and neither are they!

they still get deported

Jessica

Every person for illegal immigration should be forced to compensate these innocent people who have had their social security numbers and identities stolen by these illegals who invade our country with no care who they hurt. They should have to not only compensate the money lost from their social security accounts after they are zeroed out once the fraud is detected, but every last cent the victims had to pay taking time off work, every cent that went into photocopying documentation, every cent that went towards lawyers and gas driving somewhere to get this mess taken care of, and any other financial expenditure the victim had to cough up. They should also be forced to compensate the victims for the emotional hardships endured. They should have to compensate for the money and time spent trying to straighten out their credit ratings after these illegals have ruined them. They should be forced to compensate these victims for every single hardship related to what these illegals have inflicted upon these people. Currently, the system does not provide any compensation at all and a lot of people are never restored to previctimization status. Oh but these pro-illegals claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime that hurts no one and that we are whining when we complain.

'Total purgatory' for taxpayers
Frustration can mount for victims of this kind of fraud. Eventually, the government agencies involved do catch up with the legitimate consumers; but often, not until they are looking for money. Victims can have trouble getting disability or unemployment benefits. The government doesnâ€™t try to alert victims of their victimizations, they usually find out by chance when theyâ€™ve been victimized further.
Other victims find the Internal Revenue Service on their backs, looking for payment of back taxes for wages earned by their imposters. Some see refunds held up by the confusion; others see their wages garnished.
Victims find themselves in a financial nightmare. All those imitators make a mess out of their work histories, Social Security benefits records and credit reports. Victims are haunted by bills and creditors. Victims receive threatening letters from the IRS, asking to pay taxes on money earned by these illegal Mexican colonizers. Victims are told to re-pay unemployment benefits they had received, after the government discovers they were "working" while drawing benefits when it was really these illegal Mexican invaders all along.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6814673

You think these illegals care that they are hurting innocent lives? Their loyalty is to Mexico. They proved that during one of the first rallies when they took down the American flag, hung up the Mexican flag, and then hung the American flag upside down underneath it. THAT is how they feel about America.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htm

Then the people who want to appease them pull out the excuses about how people who are not even alive now, and haven't been for hundreds of years, 'stole' the land from the American Indians. Even American politicians are carrying out this traitorous attack on our sovereignty! If this keeps up, the United States of America will become a 3rd world country, just like Mexico! Mexico's problems are not the fault of Americans, but they are becoming our problems because the Mexicans are invading us and bringing their problems with them.

The illegals make up about 5 % of the work force. The unemployment rate is about 4.5%. Keep in mind that the unemployment rate does NOT represent everyone who is unemployed. It only counts those who are collecting unemployment. Everyone else's plight is ignored. The unemployment rate if everyone was counted would be tremendous. We do NOT have a shortage of labor, we have a large surplus. The more illegals that come in and take our jobs at minimum wage or less (often less) puts more and more Americans out of a job. Most of these Americans are never counted in the unemployment rate if they do not manage to get unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are hard to receive.

Illegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits.

The illegals get welfare by stealing social security numbers and identities and using false papers. Therefore, the time limits under the Clinton welfare reform doesn't apply to them because once the time limit is up, all they have to do is get new stolen social security numbers and identities and false papers and start all over again. American citizens who draw welfare are limited to the time limits from the welfare reform and are then cut off. American citizens who fall on hard times and have to turn to welfare assistance have a harder time finding jobs that pay enough to live off of because the illegals have taken jobs and depressed the wages of those jobs still available to American citizens. Therefore, those in the lower working class are highly unlikely to ever be able to "work their way up" since the opportunities have been stolen which will entrap these people into poverty with little to no way out.

My family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that.

They not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them.

I am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years.

"Mexico is waging war on the U.S. through mass immigration illegal and legal, through the assertion of Mexican national claims over the U.S., and through the subversion of its laws and sovereignty, all having the common end of bringing the southwestern part of the U.S. under the control of the expanding Mexican nation, and of increasing Mexicoâ€™s political and cultural influence over the U.S. as a whole.

Cultural imperialism

We experience Mexicoâ€™s assault on our country incrementallyâ€”as a series of mini-crises, each of which calls forth ever-renewed debates and perhaps some tiny change of policy. Because it has been with us so long and has become part of the cultural and political air we breathe, it is hard for us to see the deep logic behind our â€œimmigration problem.â€ Focused as we are on border incursions, border enforcement, illegal alien crime, guest worker proposals, changes of government in Mexico City, and other such transient problems and eventsâ€”all of them framed by the mediaâ€™s obfuscation of whether or not illegal immigrationâ€™s costs outweigh its benefits and by the maudlin script of â€œimmigrant rightsâ€â€”we donâ€™t get the Big Picture: that the Mexican government is promoting and carrying out an attack on the United States.

Another reason we miss whatâ€™s happening is that our focus is on the immigrants as individuals. Thus our leaders talk about illegal immigrants as â€œgood dads,â€ â€œhard working folksâ€ seeking to better their lives and their familyâ€™s prospects. In fact, this is not about individual immigrants and their families, legal or illegal. It is about a great national migration, a nation of people moving into our nationâ€™s land, in order to reproduce on it their own nation and people and push ours aside.

Thus, in orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state is representing the desires of the Mexican people as a whole.

What are these desires?

(1) Political revanchismâ€”to regain control of the territories Mexico lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliations they feel they have suffered at our hands for the last century and a half;

(2) Cultural imperialismâ€”to expand the Mexican culture and the Spanish language into North America; and especially

(3) Economic parasitismâ€”to maintain and increase the flow of billions of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system cocooned in its status quo. "

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21309

rexski

The illegals that pay taxes are using stolen IDs, so yes, I want them out.

BoRF

wow, and oxymoron from a moron...

is this irony, or just plain idiotic?

The Hit Man

Illegals are not registered therefore Don't pay taxes.
There are immigrants that do pay taxes but they are here legally.
Or they have stolen I.D.'s

DAR

We pay the bulk of the cost of services like education and emergency health care for poor people here even if they pay all taxes for their income group. That is why we and all other developed countries limit immigration of poor people to begin with, and is why we need immigration to be limited.

Unfortunately, while our next door neighbor doesn't give universal education it will always be a 'better life' for people to come here from there. However, there are way too many of them now. Our education and services are no longer adequate for our own people. Our own people have to come first.

ladiB812

these ignorant @ss holes don't want to hear that, no not the truth. the truth hurts!!! if they only knew how many do pay into ssecurity & medicaid or property taxes or cars, or anything else, damn i need a downer. they believe everything the media portrays, but i bet not one of them have asked one of these ppl about what they do & don't pay. it's easier for them to assimilate w/all the hateful ppl than to open their eyes & ears. oh well, amnesty will happen & they'll get over it.

JustHonest

I guess we could at least put them on an air conditioned bus when we ship 'em back.

sealRborders

Are you talking about the CRIMINAL aliens who hane NO right to even be working HERE??!! Are you talking about the FELONS who use STOLEN i.d.'s to work??!! Are you talking about those who commit FRAUD by using FAKE i.d.'s??!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! I want them ALL deported!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Illegal is ILLEGAL!!!!

if they're ILLEGAL, they're not paying taxes. Therefore your question is not answerable.

Sausage Fingers

Do you think paying taxes makes you a "good citizen"? Some do, but many don't. Illegals broke the law by coming here, most do NOT pay property taxes because they rent and send most of their wages back to Mexico, or they take them back themselves. The don't assimilate, they don't learn English (and many don't care to)

What do they contribute to America? Nothing. They steal free health care and education and don't pay into the system. They lower the wages of Americans by accepting extremely low pay and no benefits.

bildymooner

We still have to pay for there medical and hospital. Then the birth of the kids. I dont care if they do pay a little tax. 99 % dont so there is no excuse there.

mrcricket1932

You answered your own question... they are still illegal!

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