What is your experience of living in an area with high levels of immigrants?

deftonehead778

Are you talking about legal or illegal immigrants?

In my area, the legal ones are benifiting the community. They are hard workers and contribute just as much as any other person around them. As long as they aren't sending the money to family south of the border for the money to be spent there, I am happy. As far as I am concerned, they are Americans the same as the rest of us.

On the other hand, the illegals are posing a big problem that I don't like. I work in a county jail/correctional facility so I get to have my fair share of run ins with them. People do not realize that it costs money each day to just house these inmates. That money goes to electricity, water, food, and several other things. When they are arrested for a crime, they are brought into jail and sit there until they have court and then get to sit in jail or prison until their time is served. Do you know how much that costs us hardworking Americans in tax dollars?

Aside from the justice system, most people only hear about the problems that they pose with the educational system, the health care system, and the economy. So of course they are a slow destruction to a community. People just don't get to see it cause the effects of it aren't where everyone can see it, nor do people want to pay attention to it.

S P

Lived on Broadwater Farm in the late 70's, the short answer from me is social breakdown.

Maybe we should get this 'welfare to work' thing implemented properly to make the lazy indiginous people work rather than bringing in migrant workers instead. Otherwise we have migrants and lazy people to provide housing, utilities, healthcare etc for.

We do NOT need immigrant workers. We need to get lazy indiginous people off the couch, out the dole office and into work. THat is the answer.

m c

I agree with some of what you say, but not all. The illegals from Mexico here in America, are here for the freebies, welfare , free medical and many other things. They are a drain on taxpayers. Your last paragraph, is the only one I agree with. The first paragraph is full of BS. That is the same BS a lot of bleeding hearts say about the Illegals from Mexico that US has to put up with.

Luvfactory

I think that those from Poland or now Romania and Bulgaria are not coming here to commit crime. They just want to be able to earn some money so that they can pay for that medical treatment for their parents (something that you would take for granted in the UK!). They get jobs that nobody wants to do and they do it very well and with honesty. I would be surprised to see some polish gang terrorising your community, I don't think that happens. Have you every been to Romania? Have you seen what's going on there? Very hard working, capable people are being paid absolute peanuts for something that they risk their lives for. Why can't they have a chance to earn a bit while doing jobs that you wouldn't do?

Steve M

We have over a million people not working (possibly a lot more, because of the sneaky ways that the government calculate these figures), 60 million people crammed into mostly cities, causing them to become hellholes (London in particular), an NHS which can't cope with what we have now, police and justice system which is not doing what people want it to (lock up scumbags for LONG periods of time - not serve 5 years for brutal murder) and we are STILL importing more and more people. Why? Where will it end? How will end?

alex k

many immigrants i meet (at work iam a salesman at curry's) are polish and seem to be trying hard to make a new life whether legally or illegally. You can usualy tell those who are leagal. These people i like they are considerate and polite they always listen very hard and take in what you say, these are mostly polish or eastern european builders ect
those i cant stand are those who milk the system and get a free life from the tax paying public this has to stop.

hubie

high crime rate reduced property values increased taxes to cover more police protection and high cost of medical services.

Not Ecky Boy

Perhaps you are too young to remember Winston Churchill's funeral, but that seemed to mark the start of the decline of Great Britain.

Britain's just a toilet now, where you are frightened to leave your home and all you can do is look out the window at piles of dog sh it in the pouring rain. And listen to a load of muslims bossing you about.

I blame the last Ice Age, actually. About 160,000 years ago, a load of those Cro-Magnon types emigrated to the UK and the neighbourhood has never been the same since.

Christine

I live in the US and I feel your frustration. There are many illegals here, not only from Mexico. What bothers me most about them is that many don't try to fit in. They don't appreciate this country and are not shy to say so. It's our governments fault though. They don't keep track of those who came as tourists and then stayed.
In the UK, I understand, it's also a big problem. The laws who protect even the legal immigrants have to be changed to protect your culture and the survival of your country.

harley.edith@verizon.net

Call the local and state law enforcement agencies here where i live in Elkhart Indiana and ask them what their experiences have been,as for me they have been less than pleasant.

My parents moved here in the 1950's when England was seen as a land of opportunity to work hard and make money. Nowdays it feel as though people move here for a meal ticket.
I have lived here all my life and work hard for what i've got. We bought our house 2 years ago in London (the rough part) because we wanted a house not a flat and couldn't afford anywhere else.
It makes me sick that the majority of people that live round me don't work and seem to have newer cars and better things then me when most of the time my taxes pay for them!
I think this is why racism is on the up again. When i go out now i get told to go back to my own country and things like that all because of my dark hair and appearance (you can see that i am not English) and these comments have started because of migrants coming here to milk the system!!

jimquk

I live in Longsight, Manchester, one of the most mixed areas of the city. It has the same kind of problems that any inner city area does, though things seem to have improved over the years. We had loads of empty houses before, fires every night, the whole place was falling apart, but now it's pretty thriving. Even the weather seems a bit better (global warming???).

Some immigrants are scumbags; some locals are scumbags. Most immigrants have given up a lot to try and make a better life for themselves in an honest way, and they put up with a lot of cr@p for not much reward.

It's amazing if you ever get on a really early bus, like 5am, almost everyone on it is African, the Brits are tucked up warm in bed mostly, or if they are going to work they've got nice cars.

There are criminal immigrants. The answer is not to bash immigrants, but to tackle all criminals properly. If I get mugged, or hit with a beer bottle, or whatever, do you think I really care whether the crim is an immigrant or not? and by the way, immigrants are far more likely to be victims of crime than Brits - they're vulnerable, live in the most dangerous areas, do the riskiest jobs, and get picked on by yobs and bigots.

Give immigrants a break - they're no different than the Brits that live in other countries, except they're usually.

SUSAN K

I can't speak for other countries (UK, etc.) but in the US, there is too much ILLEGAL immigration and not enough done about it. This has to make the LEGAL immigrants very angry. Currently, the problem seems to be centered upon the Mexican immigrants. This country can not handle, financially, the ILLEGALS. They are bringing the system down (i.e. using the emerg. med. systems, etc. for free) and the LEGALS are paying for it. We are going broke. To top it off, most of the above mentioned Illegals seem to think that this is OK? OK for them, they know a good deal when they see it. What they seem to want to do is come to the US and then continue to act as if they were in Mexico. They take advantage of the benefits (they wouldn't come here if there weren't any) but still insist on speaking spanish, flying the Mexican flag, etc. as if they were still living in Mexican. Well, you can't have it both ways although it seems that they can as they are getting away with it right now.

How can you reason with someone who doesn't want to be reasonable? We do not owe Illegals anything. They have no rights if they are illegal. Where did this idea come from? If Mexico is so great, then go back.

I disagree with the argument that the illegals will do the work that legals won't do. Alot of students need some of this work to survive. The ACLU takes their (Illegals) cause and the taxpayers (legals) pay their salary. You don't think that the ACLU does this for free do you? So much more to say and not enough time or room here.

I know that this answer will not be well received and will get alot of thumbs down reports. Know this: my grandparents were immigrants (legal). They realized that to make it in the US (lots of opportunity here), they had to learn the language and start working hard to move up. They did just that. They were never rich, wealthy people but they didn't do so bad. Their families receive the benefits (me included). They didn't insist that their children be taught in school using their original language. They didn't insist on continuing to live in their former culture although we knew where we came from.

ILLGEALS are just users. Starting a new life in a new country by breaking the law doesn't seem too smart. Unfortunately, the Mexican government encourages this. They are very corrupt and they benefit from the US money that is sent back to them. Who cares if it is legal or not?

OK, bring on all of the arguments. I expect them...I also expect, as usual, that they not make sense.

James Mack

I think you will find the Brits are much more into crime than immigrants, as they are usually here to earn cash to send back to the family in Poland etc. Yes, some organised gangs do exist but you need to keep a sense of proportion and treat news headlines with a pinch of salt - or should that be spade?

hans2

Even though there all highly educated in all aspects of work, there annoying!! It makes me sick to see that im a uk citizen and I cant get a loan when Im on good wages and regular and all these immigrants have big houses and expencive cars. Our country is the dearest contry to live in as our taxes are extremely high than any other country even though these immigrants pass hundreds of different countries before coming the uk- why not live in france!!

Yukaza

All you have to do is change the name of the country and you have the USA ..Except 10 to 12 million illegal aliens don't even try to falsify documents to sneak across our under guarded borders.They use the same propaganda about doing jobs Americans wont do.After they are here they are either hired to work for cash(so no taxes taken out) or they steal,buy,borrow,and duplicate ID including social security cards to work "legally". And obtain public entitlements such as welfare.Because they accept wages far below what a legal American will accept and demand no benefits,unscrupulous employers will hire them, even tho it is a federal felony to do so.It seems our government turns a blind eye to theses illegal aliens.Although the illegal aliens insist its only about race (more than half of the illegals are Hispanic)it is simply about the damage and the costs to our city's,our states and to our country.This so called "cheap labor" costs billions to this nation each year.We here in the USA welcome legal immigrants from all nations but the illegal aliens from any where are not welcome and must be deported and not given amnesty as they were in 1987.
Within 5 years after that amnesty we had twice as many more illegal aliens as we had that were given amnesty.America is drowning under this tidal wave of unwanted,unwelcome,unneeded illegal aliens.God help both our nations before they both become 3rd world country's.

dane

I live in a fairly immigrant rich place in Finland- there are somalian women walking around in their burkas a lot, and I frequently hear french, english, russian and swedish on the metro.

It's a place with cheap apartments, yes. But I've seen no criminalization of foreign minority groups, and the criminal minded people I see are most likely natives.

Of course, if one would rate the loud playing of horrible Turkish disco music as a crime, then it might be a different matter!
As for hard working successful cultures- Finns are right at the top of all efficiency lists, higher than any other European ethnicity group.

gringopete101

I know 3 different people who were mugged by blacks in camden, I was with one of them.

Wow I get a thumbs down for getting mugged!!

keny

well where i live theres plenty of crime smack heads and people living on benefits too The only thing is they all happen to be white and English There are NO immigrants here at all.in fact i can`t think of anyone in my living memory ever moving here except if they married someone who was from here and thats a very fewso its no good blaming immigrants it`s the same all over no matter if there are immigrants or not

bob

colin0506 your talking out your *** i start work at 4.30 and in regards to your question they bring the house prices down too.makes you sick dosnt it.

geoff t

Everything you quote is talked about across the UK in pubs and clubs every day,most recently it as been the turf wars between the new boys from Eastern Europe and the UK born Asians.Sadly only one political party is not blind to this and that is not Labour Conservative or Liberal.

786

whislt you guys and girls are in city centres at night getting drunk immigrants are busy doing their work it could be they are running a business in this country nobody cares how youve opened an establishment i think you should have a glass of water from the fountain of reality and come out of cuck land

Gabriel m

Here in Brazil, have no many immigrants.... But believes me we have some immigrants here too. They comes from Peru paraguay and others small countries around. The south of brazil is much more evolved than remaining portion ...Like Rio de janeiro or sÃ£o paulo....therefore the inhabitants from northeast of the country run to the south( here) and **** also us,just like they do there.

st.abbs

Alum Rock I have saw a NO WHITES after 7.p.m
4 foot sign in the middle of the main roundabout it was there for over 3 weeks a predominantly Muslim Area.

Handsworth, Villa road drug dealers congregate outside the pub ,muggings,rapes,violence, predominantly Jamaican yardies legal and illegal.

I have found that in these areas the respectable people who can Black,White,Muslim etc. all move away
Lozells Crack,Heroin dealers shootings between the Muslims and Blacks over Drug territory mixture of Black and Muslim.

Witton predominantly Muslim streets are filthy with rotten food and rubbish and very big rats, odd shooting over Heroin and Crack deals..

Balsall Heath you can get a Haircut in the Butchers back shop.

Ladywood Blacks fight over mugging underpasses, dirty streets and very dangerous to walk about day or night.

I blame the Government and the Police who are too afraid or have their own agendas not to arrest these people or throw them out of the country.

James C

I think the proportion of immigrants that are scroungers/criminals compared to hard workers is exactly the same as the locals. If you want to make an argument against immigration you point to the criminal gangs and complain about the people on benefits. This would of course be ignoring the fact that most immigrants pay their taxes and offset any benefit claims.

My work in the health service has shown that we wouldnâ€™t even have an NHS without first generation immigrant nurses, clerks and doctors. I welcome the mix of cultures, the new Polish delis and foreign perspectives. Otherwise, these immigrants are just like us. A mixed bunch trying to make a living.

I think you just feel threatened of the unknown. Remember when you used to be afraid of the dark?

Elliot Ness

The town I live outside of is apparently one of the most racial in all the UK.(I didn't know this when I bought my farm). Apparently, when non-whites move into the area, mysterious fires happen. This has been corroberated by more than a few people in the local. There's two chippies, two chinese, and a pizza place, but apparently none of the owners live there. I have an Indian (4th gen.Brit) friend near one of my rental properties and he refuses to meet me for a beer in my town. You never see non-whites out for a drink. I don't know if this is good or bad. We do have yobs though, but they only drink in the cheap pub(it's a dump), so it's fairly peaceful.

jbj115

Lots of stolen bicycles!

colin050659

wELL I AGREE WITH THE PART WHERE THEY DO THE JOBS OUR PEOPLE WON'T DO I SEE THEM WALKING TO WORK AT MAYBE 4 OR 5 IN THE MORNING WHEN THERE ARE NO BUSSES CAN YOU SEE OUR PEOPLE DOING THAT I THINK NOT

Corvinus

OOH Who got out of bed the wrong side this morning then?
1. Stop reading the Daily Mail
2. Move out of London, it's a boil on the arsehole of the universe
3. Open your mind, whites do exactly the same, except cos they look like you, you don't notice (council estates, asbos, druggies etc)

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