What is your thoughts on this story about racial profiling. Profiling and illegal immigration?
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What is your thoughts on this story about racial profiling. Profiling and illegal immigration?
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Pittsboro, NC - The issue of racial profiling has been raised as one reason why enforcing our laws against illegal immigration is not do-able. I think this is probably the strongest argument the pro-illegal group has going for them. There are real dangers of this occurring. We know that it happens from time to time against our own citizens in the enforcement of other laws--or even just the "possible" enforcement of other laws. Young black men running along streets in well-to-do neighborhoods have been stopped for no other reason than that they are young, black and male. This, needless to say, is blatant racial profiling.
But the fact that there is a danger this will happen should not, all by itself, be a reason to refuse to enforce our laws. It has not stopped us from enforcing the rest of our laws, in this country. Nor should it stop us from enforcing our immigration laws. The danger of racial profiling just means that we have to be very careful to educate our law enforcement and to
help them make evidence-based decisions in deciding to act in a given situation.
Stopping every speeder is not racial profiling. Stopping only speeders that whiz past you looking like they may be Hispanic is racial profiling.
Of course, there are those who will say that once you've stopped a speeder, checking the bona fides of those who appear to be Hispanic is, in itself, racial profiling. I think, on the whole, that this is a weak point.
First, as a citizen, I'm not afraid to be asked for my bona fides--legitimate proof that I am who I say I am. Nor was I reluctant to do this when I was the immigrant. My (now ex-) husband and I moved to Canada in early 1975 on a work visa. We were there legally...but some Americans weren't. The Vietnam War had prompted some young American men to move to Canada illegally in order to avoid the draft. My husband and I were always aware that we could be asked to provide proof that we were who we said and that we were there legally. We were always prepared to do so. When our son was born there, we made sure to get documentation of his Canadian citizenship so that if he chose to do so, he could always live in Canada. Legally.
Second, there is an evidence-based reason to inquire into the bona fides of Hispanics who may be stopped for traffic matters, arrested for crimes, etc. That evidence comes from decades of Border Patrol work showing that those who are caught crossing our border illegally from Mexico are almost always Hispanic. I gather that there have been very, very, very few Asian or Arab or African or Anglo folks caught in these situations.
But why alert to Hispanics? North Carolina is, after all, a very long way from the Mexican border. Well, as the head of the Hispanic Liason pointed out, we know that companies in NC (and elsewhere) actively advertised in Mexico for undocumented workers to come to the U.S. for jobs. We know that twenty years ago there were relatively few Hispanic people in NC, but within the last decade or so, there are suddenly mushrooming numbers--with nothing to really account for this except for coming to this state to take whatever work they can find. No wars in Mexico, so we can't attribute it to the immigration of desperate refugees, as was the case back in the 80s with Nicaragua. We know that we are suddenly having to deal with a lot more people who have minimal or no English language skills but who speak Spanish fluently.
Human beings create categories all the time--categories or "profiles" of things, events, and people that help us navigate in our world. When those categories reflect reality, they are useful. When they do not, they need to be adjusted.
We do need to take great care that we do not racially profile. But we also need to not let the fear of racial profiling prevent us from enforcing our laws--any of them. We need to educate ourselves about racial profiling and we need to base our law enforcement actions on reason and evidence. There should be a balanced approach to enforcing our immigration laws...but they should be enforced.
http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/opinion/chatlist/profiling-and-illegal-immigration-in-chatham-90321.shtml
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Evie B
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Ok, I will say this. As an American Indian I have been pulled over and questioned many times just because I happen to be ethnic and in my younger days bigotry was well, better tolerated then, then it is today.
That said I believe that in this day we can pretty much enforce the laws without racial profiling. I will admit that this would and is a personal choice and I hope that our local police departments try their best to not hire people with racial biases. I do understand that a 100% compliance is not to be expected.
It should be simple to institute a rule that whomever is pulled over by the police regardless of race, creed or color will be asked to prove that they are legally in our Country. This can easily be done by showing a drivers license or other legal identification. After the Police run the identification which they do anyways and confirm that the person is legal or illegal then he can be either let go or arrested. Seem pretty simple to me and if it is done to everyone then the fact that most of those caught that are illegal will be Hispanic is pointless and has nothing to do with racial profiling and has everything to do with the fact that most of the illegals here are Hispanic. There is nothing racist about that, it is only facts. |
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Sasori
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Since PX has a VERY high population of illegal aliens it would be hard for law enforcement to stop someone who isn't hispanic.
They are doing work raids where illegal workers have been reported.
They are stopping people who speed, steal, or kidnap, in other words breaking the law.
These illegals need to quit whinning and leave. No one invited them here and no one is making them stay. |
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Loretta C
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i'll tell you what. i don't care what color someones skin is. if they are speeding they need to be pulled over. where i live illegals are not sent walking because they have no driver license. they get to keep their car. while we tax paying united states citizens are crapped on. i'm tired of it. it needs to stop. illegals need to just leave. i don't care if they come from england and has skin that's pearl white. they can get their azzes out until they become legal. and when coming to this country THEY need to learn our language. it is in the 14th amendment.WE ARE TO SPEEK THE LANGUAGE IT WAS WRITTEN IN AND THATS ENGLISH. if they don't like it, then they don't need to apply to come to this country. i see a riot or revalution in the future and our own military might be leading the way. |
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StoneCold
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I guess, when I used to deliver newspapers, I should have cried racial profiling when I was stopped 3 times in one night by 3 different officers who were all within the vicinity of each other. I'd be rich today.
waaahh booooo hooooo - Sounds to me like people of ethnic color need to get thicked skinned, and stop being such whiners.
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2. Scion tC
Seeing the tC on the most-ticketed list makes sense, given its popularity with young people. Its sporty performance, which comes at a price that makes affording tickets easy, probably helps tempt some drivers as well.
3. Scion xB
Like the Scion tC, the xB is aimed at younger drivers. Still, when you look at the xB's less-than-stellar performance, it's safe to assume that all the tickets xB drivers are getting aren't moving violations.
4. Mercedes Benz CLK63 AMG
If you're lucky enough to have a Mercedes AMG -- any AMG --then a few tickets are worth unleashing this luxurious beast. Besides, if you've got a Mercedes, you can probably afford a few traffic citations.
5. Toyota Solara Coupe
Now, here's a surprise. The fifth most ticketed car is the Toyota Solara Coupe. Essentially a two-door Camry, the Solara isn't known for road-thrashing performance. Maybe Solara drivers just get a lot of parking tickets.
6. Mercedes Benz CLS63 AMG
The CLS63 AMG is another luxury performance car, so it's no shocker to see its drivers among the most ticketed. The question is: With all that power, why aren't more CLS63 AMG drivers outrunning the cops?
7. Scion xA
With the xA taking the seventh spot on the ten most ticketed cars list, Scion completes the traffic-ticket hat trick. Toyota's upstart little brand has only come out with four models over its entire lifespan -- and three of them will likely get you a date in traffic court.
8. Subaru Outback
Subarus have a reputation of being yuppie grocery getters, but the Outback manages to prove that stereotype wrong by being one of the top ten most ticketed cars. Apparently, the Outback is the car of choice for people who need to get to Whole Foods in a hurry, and maybe park illegally once they're there.
9. Audi A4
Audi often finds itself in the shadows of Mercedes and BMW, but not when it comes to getting tickets. The Audi A4 is the ninth most ticketed car in America.
10. Toyota Matrix
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FQH5256
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do you think we have robo cops ?? with robo eyes that can see a minority speeding past them, ohh theres a minority lets pull him over ..oh common now you have got to be kidding me. do you know that ALOT of perps (probably around 90%) wear 2 and 3 sets of clothing??? when they commit a crime they take the first layer of clothes off??? and voilia they have a different descripition from what the cops are looking for. and they just happen to be running thru the upscale neighborhood. please tell me what is the color of the sky in your world??? |
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nighteagal44
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they are taking back there country by all means possible |
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GreasyTony
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Well Bomshell (a.k.a. gonna start another riot), Racial profiling is becoming way too common with today's immigration inforcement, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona is the biggest offender today....that we know of! People keep telling us that he's not, and we know it's only his supporters that hide behind 'Patriotism'.....LOL. But for some funny reason, he is now being investigated....Hmmmm! False accusations?.....not when it's a Federal Investigation.
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=44899
Justice Dept. Investigates Arizona Sheriff for Enforcing Immigration Law
"The investigation will focus on alleged patterns or practices of discriminatory police practices and unconstitutional searches and seizures conducted by the MCSO, and on allegations of national origin discrimination, including failure to provide meaningful access to MCSO services for limited English proficient (LEP) individuals." |
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