Whats logical about deporting 20 million ppl?

El SueÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â±o

Nothing. There's nothing logical about deporting them. There's nothing logical about hating them.

And if the only argument for deportation is their legal status, then all we have to do is change the law. They can instantly become valuable guest workers, paying taxes, contributing to our strength (which the WORKERS do anyway).

Most importantly, Pancha, there's no logical way TO DEPORT them. Even if we were to spend, say, $300 in tax revenue per capture and deportation of each illegal (it would be more than that), we would, in one swipe, deprive American industry of millions of workers, and at the same time toss a bill of $6,000,000,000 ($6 trillion) at America's tax payers.

The next day the immigrants would begin coming back, unless of course we were to build a wall and employ troops to monitor the border, the seas, and the air, multiplying that bill exponentially.

No, there's nothing logical about it. A bunch of fruity, terrified, racist Americans have gained a fruity, terrified, racist voice in our political system.

GREAT question Pancha. And the insane, poorly thought-out, howling answers you're getting from the terrified border hounds, is an indication of just how good it is.

Keep the immigrants. Legalize them. Integrate them into the strength of what we are.

genesisfedez

These people work hard and the honest ones dont get into trouble so they should stay and have a dream too.

vvxxzzvv

The USA isn't almighty. Employers who hire illegal aliens pay low wages, and get away with other things that citizens have labor laws to protect them against. and the illegal aliens don't even know they are being abused in this way. It lowers the hourly wage and working conditions for everyone. But don't get me wrong, I have nothing against people moving to the United States. I am only second generation myself (both Grandfathers). But when my family members got here they reported their entry into the country, signed up and received their citizenship right away, and were held back in school until they had enough English.
Also- Did you know that the United States doesn't count their unemployed who have exhausted their right to receive unemployment? (This policy began under the Reagan Administration) Unfortunately, the unemployment rate is MUCH higher than the government admits to.

Private Account

2o million is a lot of people The economy would crumble.

volleyballchick

Well, for starters, they are here illegally.

I think if they want to be in our country so bad, they should do it legally. No one is saying more than just make it legal. It has nothing to do with jobs, and everything to do with everything else.

Who pays the bill when they get sick and have to go into the hospital?
Who pays when they lose their job and can't afford food for their family?
Who pays when they can't afford housing?

Answer: my tax dollars from my legal job. They pay their fair share, then I would have no issue. They can pay their fair share if they are here legally.

And you are right: How does only 4% hurt the almighty USA? So why is it such a huge deal if we want them to be gone??

Renegade. AMERICAN NATIVE!

we gettin marry and go back to mexco. i the man. i saying so. u loving me. u tell me las nite. i lvoing u

dr. ruth

Drink a solution of 4% cyanide poison and then ask me the same question.

princess_29_71

JD said it great.

adobeprincess

Please elaborate. I think I know what your are talking about but please add details that was out of context.

eddster08

"Deport ALL ILLEGAL Aliens Upon Discovery

Unemployment Will Drop To Close To Zero
And The Union Movement In The USA Will Be Revived"

its not that simple. many americans won't do the heavy labor, blue collar jobs that a lot of illegal aliens are doing. america's economy is VERY heavily dependent on illegal aliens...take economics 101 and then answer.

tripledigit67

They broke in so let's break em' out!

Daniel S

We the people are a democracy and make such policies in a democratic way. I, for one, don't support mass deportation.

ag_iitkgp

The "Americans" are scared.

Lucky

They will leave of their own accord when it becomes impossible to get a job without legitimate entry paperwork.

Walter

In desperate times, people will blame all of society's ills on a particular group, the "other," you might say. America is paranoid and is considering rash actions. This, obviously, is emotion-based and not rooted in logic.

who says its only 20 mil? those are just the ones we KNOW about! and they should NOT be here because they earn OUR money and send it back to MEXICO! here's an analogy...you pour one cup of water at a time onto a cruise ship...one day...that ship will SINK. You want to live in our country...you become a citizen and keep our money HERE.

country_nurse7

First of all they are "ILLEGAL". If you don't take a stand against it then we basically abolish citizenship in the United States. Anyone can come from any country and establish residency here while the legal citizens carry the financial burden.

Second some are receiving government assistance with medical care and food stamps but they are paid cash so they don't pay taxes to help reimburse these programs.

What is the problem with coming into America legally. We have programs in place to allow that. Why is this even a question?

Daisy

For one thing, they multiply exponentially! 20 million now will become 40 million soon, then 80 million, etc. etc. And, 20 million is a lot of people mooching off the taxpaying citizens and not supporting themselves fully for all the services they use. It would not be so bad if the bulk of them weren't the bottom of the economic barrel, so that, even when they do work and pay taxes with their fraudulent/stolen SSNs, they STILL don't pay their full share of taxes because the incomes they claim are so low and they claim so many dependents. They TAKE far more than they GIVE into the economy of the USA!

It is only reasonable, logical, and economically sound to DEPORT THEM ALL and YES, IT CAN BE DONE! Not in a day, or a week, or a month or a year, but over a few years, and with the complete sealing of the borders, yes it can be done. As employers are being hit in their bank accounts for being found to hire illegals, more and more will stop hiring them and many illegals will finally leave on their own nickel, not costing us anything for their removal. As those jobs are vacated by illegals, Americans currently on welfare or high school students or legal immigrants will step into those jobs and the wages will again return to pre-illegal wage depression days. Welfare and EI rolls will decline remarkably and the added income taxes will return our schools and hospitals to pre-illegal flood levels. As all the incentives that draw the illegals are closed off - no more welfare, no more anchor babies, no more free education, no more free medical care - they would soon lose their motivation to come here illegally. Then, only LEGAL immigration will be attractive to them. Legal immigration - we are just fine with! Come one, come all!

October

It will never be done.

You Finally Admit That There Are 20 Million??

Last Week It Was Only 12 (Twelve) Million

Get Your Facts Straight

There Are 18 Million American Citizens Without A Job
That Translates To 4 Percent Unemployment (Reported)
Among The Citizens

20 Million ILLEGAL Aliens
Translates To 5 Percent Of The Workforce

Do The Math

Deport ALL ILLEGAL Aliens Upon Discovery

Unemployment Will Drop To Close To Zero
Wages Will RISE
And The Union Movement In The USA Will Be Revived
**************************************...

Almost Dont Count.....
This Aint No Game Of Horseshoes

Were Talkin About The AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS
The BLUE COLLAR WORKER
The TAXPAYER
The Ones That SUPPORT The USA
All 285 Million Of The
(Voting Population)
Middle Class Of The USA

18 Million Are OUT OF WORK

And The EARNING ABILITIES Of The Balance
Are Being STIFLED
By 20 Million ILLEGAL ALIENS
**************************************

eddster08 (Below)
You Dont Give Honest, Hardworking American Citizens
The RESPECT They Deserve

timgsweet

They are Illegal immigrants,what part of ILLEGAL don't you get.

hayleylov

whats logical is the money we will save in the long run . where's your love for the people still stuck in mexico ? where are your posts for change there and towards the government there why is all your fight for the ones here if they are sent back i think you will be behind on that mission

joeandhisguitar

Not everything is logical...somethings are just plain fun...

yars232c

Very much. That 4% will become 40% then 400%. That 4% is what weakens the almighty USA. That 4% is a poison that will harm the USA like a cancer. If it wasn't already, there wouldn't have been 500 bills across the country to stop it. The House would have compromised with the Senate.

Whatever you think you got away with, whatever wins that are in your column, you haven't seen anything yet.

4% unemployment is way too high. It should be negative 10 or 20% before I would consider importing labor. And that number is meaningless it only takes into account who is getting benefits, after six months or the end of the term they aren't counted anymore. That's a BS statistic Washington came up with to pat themselves on the back with.

gwarr129

What is logical about 20 million people coming into America illegally ?

and they are not a true part of the American population, they need to be removed... We the people say so...

rexski

What's logical about keeping 20 million criminals here in the US running around free?

I would like to see a CONDITIONAL amnesty given to all the illegals here now. (Assuming we are stopping more from coming in). The conditions ...

They must learn basic English.
They must learn some American history and culture.
They must be financially dependent, i.e., either employed or have a financial sponsor.
They must swear their allegiance to America and be signed up for the draft. (Within the draft eligibility guidelines)
They will have a FELONY conviction on their records so they can never posses a gun or vote, even if they become citizens.

They must do this within a time frame, such as 1 year. If they don't, or at least show effort after the time frame, they will be deported.

This will only work if we protect our borders. If we keep allowing them in, it's just a waste of time!

Revision: 4% would give a lot of Americans jobs they don't have the opportunity for now!

DAR

In areas where they concentrate the impact is huge. I have recently seen estimates that as much as 40% of children in LAUSD schools may be illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants, and these were based on government figures.

If true, that is 66 % more than is budgeted for and paid for except (primarily) by diluting benefits for our own children. That is a pretty big impact. No wonder California schools have gone from being top drawer to virtually the worst in the nation, with a huge drop out rate.

I am still researching that number, but the more I think about it, the more it seems possible.

I'm still not there with deportation, but I am getting positively militant about finding a solution in the next Congressional session (since it won't happen in this Congressional session.)

gokart121

What's illogical about immigration enforcement? People that've migrated from Mexico to the United States have some hard choices to make...like whether or not they ever really 'left' home.
I'm sorry, but there have to be limits, and the laws here need to be enforced. If you're anti-law enforcement on the immigration issue then I don't support anything you've got to say, sorry.

renegadesho_ban

Let me say that I like your alter ego. Thats funny! You sure are creative.
Now, What is "logical" about having 20million+ criminal trespassers running free in MY country? Not a damn thing about that is logical.
What IS logical is the systematic denial of any opportunities or benefits to the criminal trespassers by the entire nation,as we are seeing happen now.
WE THE PEOPLE know what needs to be done and we are taking the necessary steps to create a solution to the problem of "Illegal immigration".
Are you & your little clique beginning to feel lonely yet?, soon you will know what it is like to be surrounded and outnumbered by folks who have no pity for you.
P.S. Warning, Warning, Danger!

Love America

cuz 20 millions need da welfare illegals take

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