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Which is worse threat: the loss of millions of US jobs overseas or the immigration of millions of workers here?
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Which is worse threat: the loss of millions of US jobs overseas or the immigration of millions of workers here?


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Ox: thanks for the succinct answer. it helps confirm the opinion many of us hold about your level of education.


    




catmaninmo II
They are both, equal and real threats to the US citizen worker!


Laura
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They are both ingredients which will result in one messy recipe.


violated2
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the later..


Lovable
Why do people insist that Ilegal immigrants take away americans tax money?

I do agree that alot of illegal immigrants are under government benefits thats becuase they have no other choice, they dont have the level of education that most americans have to obtain higher paying jobs.

However, the thing about an Illegal Immigrant ( Hispanic) is that they will work where ever it is they have to work to put food on their table.

Dont you all know that MOST OF THEM DO PAY TAXES. They might even be payign more than most Americans becuase of the simple fact that they are illegal.


Thomasina Paine
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They are tied together - first the foreign scabs are brought here for 'knowledge transfer' and then the job and the worker are supposed to go back.

I think it is better to lose the jobs than have the third world invaders. Both stink.


No Amnesty
Illegal immigration.

Jobs will go over seas when technology allow it. However some jobs must be done in the US. Those jobs have been taken by the illegals. Thus putting most Americans in check mate.Figuratively speaking.


Greevy Thom
Outsourced jobs will not benefit any Americans. Those jobs will not go back to America...Ever. Those jobs will not be taxable. The owners of those jobs will send their profits overseas where they will never be taxed.

Immigrants going to America, the legal ones of course - is actually important to keep America growing. These people will bring in their new talents, skills, idealism and passion for their new country. They will pay taxes, spend and invests in America, which will make our country grow even more. This is how countries grow, not giving up jobs to 3rd world countries so greedy businessmen in cahoots with equally selfish politicians will grow their pockets.

We miss the America that grows. When will it go back?


Ya heard me
Immigration of illegals. It not only takes jobs that should be for Americans but it costs the tax payers.


Docar
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The illegal, immoral, criminal invasion of millions of workers here of course! Not only do we lose jobs to criminals but we the taxpayers have to pay for it too!


doubleolly
My vote goes to the loss of jobs, which may never come back. The immigration problem can be changed by enough fortitude of the congress. The regaining of jobs by american workers is much harder.


rlstaehle
Loss of jobs by any means.


Joel W
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The Immigration is far the worse. Illegal aliens are even more ugly.

The way things are being done theses days is simple: you build a factory in Singapore (six week to build) and run it for ten years making shoes. Pollute like crazy too. Then you sell it to someone else because new devices have made the old factory unprofitable. We will be dealing with exactly that in the not to distant future if we are not really smart.

We have a large number of people retiring. The retirement funds that would have made those retirees fairly well to do, have disappeared. There isn't going to be an enormous, and wealthy, market moving into the post 62+ area at all. So we will have a much smaller jobs market... and those jobs better go to Americans. Mexican Americans will be the primary worker in the days to come too.

The rest of us will be scraping by with the criminally insane in HUD Housing eating moldy outdate food. And all of that because the Congress was bleeding in their hearts and gave Social Security to all the illegal aliens with 15 quarters or more.

We won't be losing jobs. But we do need to protect what we have from the illegal aliens!!
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Isn't it sad... Loveable hasn't read any of the links that have been posted. She has no idea what this thread is about. I have a terriable, terriable feeling she is a brain surgeon in her own country having accomplished the course work touchy-feely. NO BOOKS Loveable. Wonderful.. just wonderful. And you expect us to give the guest workers jobs?


Henry D
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Immigration, third world immigration from Mexico and other hell-holes will turn the US into a third world nation. The US can recover from loss oif jobs and even ecomonic collapse if it has a stronf white majority population, but if it becomes a third world nation with a on white majority-it is finished forever.


Zez 0wn3r
to start i am mexican and to tell you i say that the jobs over seas are taking millions out of american money ....immigration has nothing to do with that... besides mexicans where here first the land that they lived in was called Aztlan. that takes over 8 american states.


Mario
I'm not here to start a giant controversy but it is not the immigrants fault as much as it is America's. We allow sanctuary cities which are cities that don't enforce immigration laws. Also many corporations and companies are knowingly hiring illegals for cheap labor. True they are coming illegally but who can blame them. They have as much as a right as anyone. We did they same thing in the past. None of us have the right to talk down about this issue.


Cecil n
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Legal immigrants don't pose a problem. Illegals on the other hand, are draining our medical, legal and educational systems. Illegal immigration is a bigger problem than outsourcing of jobs.


ppe
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what jobs they all minimum wages


karen w
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Darwin is right, no American is willing to work the kinds of jobs the immigrants work for the same pay and working conditions, as much as some people complain about immigrants they help the economy , jobs lost overseas are just lost and we get no benefits from them.


Darwin
Loss of jobs. Immigrants don't take jobs that Americans will work.


GreasyTony
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Loss of jobs overseas of coarse!

When immigration goes up prices go down. Immigration controls our inflation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/14/AR2007101400993.html

More immigrants means more tax payers and consumers of America.

Send jobs over seas, and we'll have millions more unemployed Americans and we'll just be sending more money to other countries for their product, where they don't pay US taxes.

http://www.garyshood.com/immigrants/
Cons of outsourcing and kicking out all the illegal immigrants:

The jobs are completely lost to another country.

Rich people get richer by reducing costs. Instead of helping people already in America, you send money to India and Mexico.

Every time you get on the phone for Microsoft support, you claim to barely understand the guy.

These aren't idiot jobs either, jobs in computers are being sent overseas. Jobs in computers don't need a man in that location, they can work wirelessly over the internet. People in India will never pay sales tax for American goods. Americans actually want jobs in computers, too bad they're all being sent over there.





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