Who is the problem? Illegal immigrants coming by the thousands daily, or is it the illegal employers of usa?

Tonya R

Employers... definitely. If they had nowhere to work, they couldn't survive over here.

AveGirl

It is the combination of them both, along with our government not doing a thing to stop the whole situation.

The Nana of Nana's

Both. They wouldn't come by the thousands if no one would hire them and that's a simple fact. They would also stay away if they couldn't get welfare and foodstamps. It's insane to me that people who are here legally, making them criminals, can get insurance when a lot of US citizens can't!

Dirty Martini

They are both, equally 100% in the wrong.
I'm not blaming either one of them more or less than the other.

If illegals weren't here to begin with, the employers wouldn't hire them. (No one goes down to Mexico and holds a gun to anyone's head and says "you are going to the US to mow lawns, Pedro").

And if the employers didn't hire them, the illegals wouldn't come here either. (Again, no one holds a gun to the employers head and says "hire Pedro, or else").

Both equally 100% in the wrong.

andy f

both

dr.kurdi

both

jamie s

Both are the problem. But I do think it'd be easier to control it to go after the companies that hire these illegals.. If in the end, it is not worth it to hire them they won't.. And in effect, there really wouldn't be a reason for them to come in the first place..

bobanalyst

I agree, Microsoft, Google, and CitiBank should stop paying $78,000 annual salary to illegal immigrants.

Lex

The problem is the people who are giving jobs/money to the illegals. They're coming here for two reasons: 1. to get money 2. to take back the land we "stole" from them (they learn in Mexican History that the U.S. stole the southwestern states from them).

Ron K

All. Ultimately it is our governments fault for letting the illegals in and their fault again for not enforcing laws on illegal employment.

Our government let this go on when all they had to do was go forward with the national ID card for all citizens.

Yes, good ol' American greed by some American employers is a culprit, selling the country out for more money in their own pocket from hiring cheap illegal labor; but the problem is so deep now that an employer may not have a choice as the labor pool in certain industries has all become illegal.

One argument is...hey...our government let them all in, now the market can only be successful with illegal labor. Now our entire residential construction market has been taken from Americans...what a damn shame, and there are many more markets. What will these poor college kids do if they want to put themselves through school by working?

In the end, citizens pay taxes to government to protect us and organize the country. This was not done by our government who we hire. Illegal aliens can't be blamed for just wanting to work and make money. The employers do not have power to control this country's labor pool.

Blame the Bush administration for not doing a damn thing and letting all of us citizens get ATTACKED by illegal aliens. ALL of our family's livlihoods have been harmed as our US economy is being robbed. This money belongs to US citizens, but illegals take the money "back home" This is half the reason our economy is historically bad and bleak, the other half is useless war teaching no one nothing and costing the other half leading to the terrible economy.

Sorry if I answered too much, but I don't want to just talk, but show the result of the direction to prove this answer.

notgrannysmith

Both. And our government sitting with their thumbs up their azzes doing practically NOTHING about it.

verda hb

I realize many people are upset because of illegal immigration, but has anyone noticed that no one complained about illegal immigration until our job s started going out of the country and left our people without jobs? and now that our great leaders have signed all of these stupid agreements with other country's who can get people to work for slave wages, our people are getting excited about the ill legal immigrants who have jobs and they don't , and they are right ,but where is the real cause? our great president Clinton got us started in this mess with the free trade agreements with south America, China. and other country's and our business men such as Mattel , Wal Mart, their concern is only profit, and since they can buy for less than half price from these slave country's and sell for the same price s if made in America and their C,E,O,s are getting million dollar bonuses they live great. I wouldn't be surprised if they are not the ones who started this B.S. about illegal immigrants to keep people from looking at them for not hiring Americans to build their products, they sure are a sly bunch of thieves, maybe we should look at this problem one more time.
practicle thinking. for your information when our forefathes came to this country, they came prepared to fight and suffer for what they got, today when these people come here they expect to get free education, medical, welfare ect, in fact I saw on T,V, wheret his black lady was on this ship form Africa, she said I am not getting off until I get my welfare check???? I will bet one damn thing , the indians didn't offer any welfare checks to any one.this **** makes me sick.

lovebug99

The government, employers and illegals. The government always give huge tax breaks to big businesses, employers tcheat employees and taxes, and illegals who work for little pay. If employers were truly forced to pay taxes for each and every illegal employee and pay at least minimum wage with tax deductions, it would help the citizens financially. But according to the government- businesses are more important than citizens.

both are the problem make no mistake they are far more expensive the pro illegals indicate. low-skill immigrant households received nearly three dollars in immediate benefits and services for each dollar in taxes paid. the link gives a breakdown of the cost on uneducated illegals. it will push the middle class standard of living to the poverty level. by forcing wages down and since poor and rich do not pay taxes it will be up to us to carry everyone. i have all i can carry. amnesty no! sorry this goes back to 1986 when the reagan administration gave amnesty to 2 million illegals and did not build a wall to secure our borders. so both political parties are responsible for this mess then and now. the bottom line is cheap labor benefits rich people and our government is loaded with rich people

charlie the 2na

The problem of illegal immigration rests on the politicians of Mexico. Watch TV from Mexico...does any actor look Hispanic? The Mexican "elite" WANT to get rid of the Mayans and Aztecs, so send them to the US. The Mexican government only wants those of Northern European decent. They're racists, so they figure, let us deal with THEIR problem.

alejandro l

The law is clear and very specific in its provision. If those who are mandated to implement the law will apply it according to the letter, no matter who gets hurt, illegal immigrants will not keep on doing what is illegal. Run after illegal recruiters and those government officials who are making a mockery of the law. Yes if only man will abide by the rule of law, his own conscience and above all, that of his Creator, then this world would still be a paradise for everyone.

schwiggity

illegal employers... definitely. you can't blame foreigners for wanting to come to our country (particularly Mexicans) because this is the land of opportunity. They want nothing more than to make a decent living and eventually move back home and share their wealth with their family. Unfortunately, many of them don't realize what it takes to become a Unites States citizen. It's hard work, I'm sure. Employers are to blame, because they're greedy and they just want cheap labor. Well guess what they're doing! They're making the American dream harder to achieve for ACTUAL AMERICANS! If employers weren't looking for such cheap labor, none of them would ever come over! The illegal immigrant problem would end. It's so simple, yet so distant...

Eric, RI

In the short term illegal immigrants pay into the Social Security system which is almost bankrupt.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050410/news_mz1e10ruben.html

They also provide recruits for the military.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3271/illegal_immigrants_uncle_sam_wants_you/
The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, is part of the stalled package of proposals that many in Congress are seeking to resurrect. The proposal, applicable to an estimated 750,000 undocumented residents of military age, stipulates that those who arrived in the United States before age 16, graduated from high school, and meet other qualifications could immediately enter the path to citizenship in exchange for at least two years' service in the armed forces.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/06/16/immigration_bill_offers_a_military_path_to_us_dream/

But not all of them pay taxes.
http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/Library/Archives/SaveSS.htm

In the long term Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1490.cfm

Illegal Immigration negatively affects American Workers, the Unemployed, and Unions.
It also hurts the Environment by increasing Urban Sprawl.
http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/tuition.html

Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Hunter have the most conservative voting records on immigration.
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop2.html
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop1.html

Of these three, Ron Paul has the best chance of winning the Primary election.
Paul's campaign has almost 5 times as much money to spend as Tancredo.
http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+P80000748
http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+P80003429

Ron Paul has stated that he wants very strong borders and he was appalled that our government had taken border guards off of our borders to send them to Iraq.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/haman3.html

This is his six point plan:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. Thatâ€™s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
http://ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/

The NAFTA Superhighway might be another significant threat to American borders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmFrYWPoG8
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.html

Juan mym

hey i don't know who is the problem but right here in cali what is happening is that we employ illegal workers to do jobs that are worth 30 dollars an hour when we pay them 100 bucks per day and they are happy i am an immigrant too but thats how these works in the construction field

simasu01

neither its the american fault for being against immigration. most immigrants cant get into good jobs because they dont have the papers to do so. americans shouldnt be complaining because they take $7-$15 per hour jobs.

practical thinking

The problem is the myopic view of many amerikans. Let me ask you, when your "forefathers" cam to this land, did they have papers from the native people granting them permission to take all their land? Did they have papers granting permission the utilize resources? Did they have permission to engage in a campaign of prolonged genocide? In case you don't know history, the answer is NO. Those fault Mexico's government for giving out fliers on how to cross into America are also missing historical facts. The governments of your "forefathers" encouraged and funded people to come to this land. Read up on your history.

The Ultimate Radical

The government but an amnesty will have to be introduced.

MEXICANA AND PROUD

NOBODY IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VIVA MEXICO Y LA RAZA MEXICANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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