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government ACCOUNTABLE,for all the tax dollars that have been WASTED over the years, that SHOULD HAVE been used to secure our borders???? We should have had a border fence YEARS ago!!! Back in 1986 when Reagan granted amnesty to the 1-3 million illegals,we were ALSO told that our borders would be secured!!! That's been TWENTY years ago!!! WHY has NOTHING been done,and NOW we have 11-30 MILLION to deal with??!!
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nv girl you MISSED part of my point!!! I said that if REAGAN had done his JOB,we would not have so MANY illegals here today!!!!!


    




whitefeather
We need to get on with the fence and keep our Border Patrol on that line. We need our Minutemen and the National Guard and MORE. It might not STOP the flow of illegal immigration, but it'll sure slow it to a small tickle.


We COULD deport illegal immigrants. Dwight D. Eisehower did it and BUSH could do it the same way. Saying they can't is not true. We could do it by thousands a month until they were all sent back.


Caesar
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It comes down to simple math. The rich need cheep labor here to increase their bottom line. Bush is rich and it's pay back time for the wealthy who financed his campaign. Remember Bush called the American volunteers patrolling our borders "vigilantes"?


KG
You're right. How dare people try to make a better life for themselves, especially in the land of opportunity where nearly every single person was at one point an immigrant?


PANCHA
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sqwirlsgirl nailed it.she rules!
^notice how I only used one exclamation point.
saves time,you should try it.
Thanks for the points.


magz
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Um sweetie... let me inform you that the illegals are illegal because they are undocumented. Well in answer to your question I don't think so and here is some advice little girl try whining to your parents or maybe writing to "your" government and telling them what has to be done because "you" said so. xoxoxo;)


robin from sherwood
right you are. let's kill all the immigrants who are rising usa economy, working in fields "true" americans never gonna work. let's leave only Americans, fat, lazy, ignorant in most cases, concerning only about their own needs. sure, americans are only to navigate their fat asses from their house to office, making small stops for dunkin donuts, supermarkets, malls etc. and after a hard week they usually are eligible for couple bottles of budweiser, or go to cinema,eat some popcorn, drink soda, get fatter,uglier. that's the american dream,right?


EDNA
Wouldn't it be more advantageous to fix today and prepare the future. You are presenting an impossible dream here. Even if you could, how would you do it? This absolutely no sense.


princess_29_71
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I agree with you.


Ann E
I agree-let us write it on our tax bills when we sent them in.


Zoe
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We need to do something and do it fast. Illegal aliens don't care who or what they harm or have destroyed they are only interested in their own self's. Every illegal here should be made pull a tour of duty over in Iraq or else be deported or in prisoned. Mexico is all grown up America bails them out over and over still the country cannot advance. It's time to crack down and show some serious intent and let Mexico fix it's own problems we got enough of our own.Wonder how many will sign up for the draft cause it looks like America in Iraq for the long haul.


kobacker59
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I believe that we should welcome the tremendous brain power that immigration of all types brings to this great nation. I believe that our tax money would be better spent on things other than bricks & mortar to put up a ridiculous fence that will accomplish not much more than providing a monument to ignorance & "small thinking".


sqwirlsgirl
If this has been SUCH an issue for you.....why haven't you VOTED correctly.....for the last 20.....or rallied the troops for a secure border.

Instead of pissing and moaning NOW.......you should have been a valiant force against the evil and destruction YOU are currently facing.

*by the way.....this is my pet peeve.....this has been going on for years and YOU ALL ignored it. NOW you want to shoot them all and blame them for everything from chicken pox to Aids, welfare, every hospital closing, children not learning their ABC's, OH and lest we forget...dirty frontyards and loud music......that is ridiculous and farfetched.*

If this is a problem NOW.......and you JUST admitted that it has been going on and YOU WERE AWARE it was.........why in the hell didn't you vote, march, secure, create a group.......UNTIL NOW. JESUS


Yo!
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Of course we need to. Those of us who have been doing so need to keep doing it and not give up and at the same time try to help open the eyes of those who are going blindly about their business assuming everything is fine.


Sashie
Indeed they should! And I also think that since it seems perfectly OK for our administration that some of our laws are openly broken, we could ask them why we can't break the tax laws? What's so special about having one set of laws broken, but not another? Personally I would love to have a say in what my taxes are spent on ...and until I get a sensible answer ... withhold them ... anyone think I'd get away with that one??


yars232c
Enlightenment: I have never seen a better case for censorship in my life, I really tip my hat off to you, I didn't think it could be done!!!

America is a soveriegn nation, and as such illegal immigration is not a human rights issue - the only human rights laws are in Europe! When King George IV convinces us to give up our soveriegnty, the contract of the constitution between our government and the people is null and void, and how long do you think we'll all behave ourselves - oh that's right, the government has the guns, military and law enforcement - if that's what's going to hold people together - WELCOME TO WITNESSING TYRANNY IN THE MODERN WORLD IN YOUR OWN LIFETIME!!!


enlightenment
Undocumented immigrants are forced to come to the U.S. by poverty, and taller fences and more border guards won’t stop them.

The bipartisan push--both during the years of Bill Clinton’s presidency, and today under George Bush--for more “border control” has only victimized undocumented immigrants by forcing them to seek increasingly remote and dangerous points to cross the border.

Under the Clinton administration’s “Operation Gatekeeper,” the Immigration and Naturalization Service (today called Immigration and Customs Enforcement) and the Border Patrol began a new strategy of border enforcement called “prevention through deterrence.”

In the past, the Border Patrol had concentrated on catching undocumented immigrants when they crossed the border. The idea now became to frighten them into not attempting to cross at all--by implementing a series of military-like “improvements” to border control, including increased numbers of guards, underground sensors, infrared night scopes and large sections of fortress-like walls with flood lighting.

But while “prevention through deterrence” succeeded in slowing border crossings in highly populated urban areas, it forced more and more migrants into taking larger risks in remote terrain.

According to a report in the Houston Chronicle, while the desert around Tucson, Ariz., is today crawling with 2,400 U.S. Border Patrol agents and an unknown number of rifle-bearing “Minutemen” vigilantes, rather than stopping the flow of undocumented immigrants, this has simply forced people to cross further out into the desert.

That includes places like Yuma, Ariz., where daytime temperatures routinely reach 120 degrees--and where migrants can walk as far as 50 miles before reaching an interstate, or sometimes find themselves trapped on the Barry M. Goldwater Bombing Range for the U.S. Air Force. Migrant deaths for the Yuma sector hit a record 51 in 2005, up from 36 in 2004 and 15 in 2003.

Since 1994, according to experts, Operation Gatekeeper has caused the deaths of approximately 4,000 people along the border. And the numbers are going up. For the last fiscal year, the Border Patrol reported 473 migrant deaths along the entire U.S.-Mexico border.


DAR
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I think we should hold them accountable, particularly when they start coming up with bills like the Senate Bill, which are downright dishonest.


NVgirl
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The borders should be monitored closely. But I hardly believe that will stop the flow of illegal immigrants. They will just get smarter and find other alternatives. And you can't get rid of homegrown terrorists that easily cause they already live in the U.S.
So should money really be wasted on fences? Will you be able to fence off the oceans? What good will it do to build fences when it would cost even millions more to monitor them 24/7 with a live person?
Or should all willing world governments start working on this immigration problem together? Should the world amalgamate to make living standards more even around the world to discourage their citizens from running over the border? In the end immigrants are good people and just like average Americans, or in my case, Canadians, there are and will always be some bad seeds among us. And we can't even control the criminals that already reside in our neighbourhoods. In other words, most serial killers are home-grown and fences can't do a thing to stop them.


gokart121
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I think the Reagan amnesty was the first step on the road to hell that we're on now, with all of this...the only way to nail down the problem is to nail the border SHUT. It's a big job, but it can be done.


kubrickian
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i think that PEOPLE WHO START TYPING IN ALL CAPS FOR NO REASON are f'in annoying.


also, one punctuation mark will suffice, you nutcase!!!!!!


NONAME
not me...take more of my money and waste it!!
Have a freakin' party!!


Nosy Parker
I hope you're talking about the tax dollars wasted on bigger refunds to richer fat cats, or wasted on "Star Wars", or wasted on unnecessary wars where we don't belong. I, for one, would like to see them held accountable for all that.

As far as spending money on a wall/fence between us and Mexico, that money might be used to get their government to make Mexico a better place to live, so that they'll stay home in the first place.





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