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nena_en_austin
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I guess because of ignorance.... |
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Sherilynne B
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lol is everybody who answered a newbie here? Illegals and their supporters make that claim daily. "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us!", "We were here first and only taking back what is ours!"
They do it to rationalize their criminal status and not being very bright they all buy into it. |
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MH/Citizens Protecting Rights!
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Go to LaRaza, MeCHA, Aztlan Websites. Review their doctrines and their information. You will get lots of answers to your questions and you will also note that they have already claimed Califaztlan, Texaztlan and several other states. The government has done next to nothing to stop this nonsense and has actually given tax dollars to these groups to help them support their cause. |
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Drako
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Mexican people dont insist the U.S. belongs to them. They're just looking for a place to live.
they dont want the U.S. back, those are just things that some americans believe are happening. |
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grandmaluvalot
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I personally have never heard one of them say that. To me if you're illegal, you're illegal. Get legal or get out. |
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Shaz
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who cares?
Zap> ok good point but then I guess you are saying there is not one country that has a valid claim on their land. wars rearranged map borders all the time and the Aztecs and other tribes fought and conquered land..Hispanics came and conquered them just as people have done since dawn of time. Also one additional fact..violence is the ultimate form of authority..if you fight and take something and no one can take it back from you then yes it belongs to you..when someone can take it away from you then it no longer belongs to you.
Namaste> You want equality? Then how about we treat the illegals as MEXICO does? THAT is equality. I think you would be quite shocked if we did that and pray for the days of "discrimination". I don't hate Mexicans any more than they hate me but that doesn't mean they can break my laws and call it discrimination when they get caught for it |
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cool.panamania
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The last time I checked,we were in the USA.I 've never heard any illegal Mexican say the USA belongs to them either. |
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zipps86
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Mexicans don't really have the desire to become American, the only reason they want to become citizens of this country, is because they won't be deported and will not be harrassed by INS. Who really wants to be an American? I'm an American, and I'm not even proud of being one. Ok, bye! |
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shkauclkl
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Quote real facts lady......... real facts please |
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It's Me Yal !
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because it did !
Politics were involved and the people would have never gaven up their land !
It's obvious that America had the power ! Bullies ! |
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JessicaRabbit
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They are ignorant and have been told by Mexican activists that we stole the land from them. However that is a total LIE. |
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bolt1
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The pro-illegals are silly. Let them keep making silly claims as we send them back to Mexico en mass. |
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Cat
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Your dumb...no one wins a war.
People just get killed
plus when did you ever hear a Mexican claim that?
never have i heard that |
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victor s
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why don't we invade Canada now lets steal more land , shiut we did it with native Americans , and Mexico I don't see why not . then lets blame the Mexicans . for everything what do you say. |
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Kimberly
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Rightfully?Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna in that time was the president of Mexico, the history said he was forced to sign the treaty Guadalupe- Hidalgo otherwise he was going to be killed. To not make it look bad, Mexico received a few amount of money for that land, and lost about half of its territory.
The United States was interested in this land for two reasons, if I am not wrong I remember that they heard news that "gold" was found over there, plus, population in the North of Mexico was very little since Mexico was centralist.
When Mexicans found out about the mines, they went to Mexico City but it was already too late.
Let me clear something in this forum, not all Mexicans are illegals, there are also immigrants that are legally here, like my parents.
Also, Why do you insist that the illegals are all Mexicans? They are from everywhere, mostly from South America. |
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Pa0
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Well have you asked every undocumented Mexican about that and have heard each and every one of them claim that? If not, then you cannot generalize everybody to think that. Second, many people have many different opinions on that. 'Rightfully' would not be an accurate form of describing the U.S. 'winning' the war. I personally don't believe the U.S. 'rightfully' won anything. It was scammed and 'won' dirty. It's like if I point a gun at somebody and tell them to sell me something or else Ill shoot. Hey I at least am 'buying' it.(sarcasm) Well it's bull. And no I'm not saying the U.S. (it wouldn't be all of the United States, maybe 2/3s) belongs to Mexico but it is bull that the real stories aren't taught. Go ahead, the U.S. should keep it, they're using the land for good but history shouldn't be forgotten. I am saying this PERSONALLY and from what I have read here and in Mexico and what I have researched and what my parents have taught me. Don't think that just because I think something, millions of other people that are the same race as me will think the same because you have a problem with putting people in a box.
As for the undocumented, they are just looking for better opportunities and have not come here to attack Americans for their land so chill out on that. Find the true situations they have to go through that have pushed them into coming to such a great country as the U.S. where they can at least find a job and feed their families. |
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diva
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huh?.. ask the Native Americans that same question |
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Namaste
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We don't claim that this our Country, all we want is to be treated equally...I disagree with them entering illegally, Why do American believe you are superior than Mexican, you visit our lands enjoy our food and our culture..."Why can we do the same?" we clean you houses, pick your fields, make your food. we work hard for this country to...."Illegal entering is wrong" but so is discrimination. |
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Zap
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Mexco has NEVER insisted that the US belongs to them; although, the states of California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Texas were, at one time, part of Mexico and the US, in its era of expansionism, did forcebly take these lands from Mexico (as well as the Native Indians living there). So, basically what you're saying is that if I came into your home and killed you for it, it belongs to me, then? Right? |
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JoyJoy
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I personally have never heard that. However I am not saying it would not happen. I know they feel they have a right to be here and in our area many of them are only here temporary and most want to return to Mexico one day. Temporary may seem like a short time but for them that may mean years. The problem is they don't always make it back unless they are deported. I believe they do have a right to be here as our Country is founded on immigrants. However it would be in the best intrest of America, if they did so legally. I suppose the "winning" it could be debated. As it originally belonged to Native American's and the practice they used to "win" it is highly unethical in my opinion. I can't go back and undo history. however I can live by the laws we have now. Move on and embrace American Culture as it changes. |
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Kailyn
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weirdo mexicans |
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Mrs. Hadaway
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when did God grant you permission to judge. America is supose to be the land of the free and a change at a better life... |
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Di Di
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There is no border........ |
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pingla
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What kind of illegal Mexicans have you been hanging out with? I have never heard such thing!
They might say that Texas, California, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah all belonged to Mexico at one time, and use it as a dumb excuse to cross de border illegally but nooooooo, I just cannot believe you actually heard something like that. |
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loretta
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not only did we win the war. we payed 15 million for Texas alone. we even payed debts off for Mexico. Calif, New Mexico, Nevada,Colorado, Utah, Texas and Oklahoma was bought by the united states of America. and we're still paying them leaches. |
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Antis Suck
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Just because you start a war and then kill everybody and take their land, doesn't mean the land belongs to you. It just means you are a bully who takes things by force. |
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Janelli
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sounds to me like you didn't pay attention when you attended American History in college or did you not make it that far?
I could explain it to you, but I'll leave it to you to research as homework. |
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Steve E
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One word...Ignorance. |
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kenny ken
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shut the fuck up about la raza and all that bullshit if u got so much pride take that shit and rebulid mexico bitch cuz if yall put half of the efort yall wetbacks put in to cross the boder and hide and smuggle dope yall could have fixed mexicos problems u goddam wetback go back to mexico
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AlinaD
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Actually, My College Professor for a Chicano class says that America Belongs to the mexicans and that Illegals have the right to come and be here. |
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