Why do people assume I'm a liberal because I don't hate immigrants regardless of their status?

Lanani

How bizarre! I know what you mean...

I'm socially conservative on most issues, but I just cannot understand why more people don't get that being understanding and respectful to the poor and the suffering that flock to our country is NOT antithetical to the principles of conservatism....

We all were immigrants at some point. We all suffered. We all fled bad situations to seek better lives. How heartbreaking that some of us seem to think we've risen to a level above the struggling immigrants that flock to work in this great country. We were lucky enough to have been born here, and we never had to make the regrettable choice that many illegal immigrants have to make (cross the border illegally to work and feed your family or stay where you are and live in subhuman conditions). How arrogant that no one considers this choice. They rest on the moral superiority of never having had to break this law because the need never arose.

You're not the only one, some of us remember the Biblical admonitions to be kind to foreigners and loving to those who are immigrants... and some of us know how little choice some people have.

Edits:

To whoever said this: "Consider also, that more US citizens are KILLED daily in the USA by illegal immigrants than are killed in the war in Iraq. What could this mean to the families of those who lost their loved ones? How would you feel."

Email me your source for this incredibly ridiculous figure. I'm a journalist, and I've NEVER heard this.

And to whoever said this: "Your quotes are all correct, but one of them, it escapes my mind, says that you MUST OBEY THE LAW OF THE LAND!"

The Biblical admonition to love God yet honor the government ("Give to God what is God's, and to Caesar what is Caesar's") refers to the institution of government, not one specific government. Mere legality or illegality does not imply moral correctness.

Or would you have used this verse to imply that citizens in Nazi Germany should blindly follow Hitler? After all, the Nazis WERE the government...

No, I didn't think so.

RUSH MADE OBAMA CRY !!!

Most people are talking about illegal immigrants. The very first thing these people did when entering this Country was break the law and they should be dealt with.

grdnoviz

People don't seem to want to deal with the distinction between what they did and how you should treat them. It is the same if you saw someone stealing food and you knew they were starving. Yes it is wrong to steal, but would you call the police? A good thing for Christians to ask themselves is "what would Jesus do?", not what the other did wrong and how they should be punished. That is for judges to decide.

Bite Me!

You are a good person.

kerfitz

I don't hate any immigrants...I want those that are here illegally to go back to their country of origin and do the necessary work to come here legally. I want those that are here legally to enjoy everything this great nation has to offer, and to make the most of the oportunities that are there for them. If you believe that the illegals should be given some preferential treatment or be given citizen status simply because they have made it into this country..then you are a liberal (in regards to this issue)....even the Bible points out that the laws of the land must be followed.

JessicaRabbit

Typically the leftist liberals are the ones that support the illegal alien criminals.

Sorry if you don't like my term but if someone is breaking our immigration laws, they are a criminal and should face the consequences of their ILLEGAL actions (e.g., jail, deportation).

Sure "all men are created equal," but that doesn't give illegals the right to break the law. When Christ found the money changers in the Temple, he kicked them out. They were being disrespectful to the Temple. Illegal aliens are disrespectful to our laws and should be kicked out!

EDIT: BTW, this is not a racist issue. It is totally a LEGAL issue. Stop the "bleeding heart" cries. They are breaking the law.

TweetyBird

I'm a liberal and I want our borders closed permanently! I don't want anybody to be mistreated. I just want them deported. All men (and women) may be created equally....just let them be created in their own countries!

Folks are mistaken. Hating or not hating immigrants doesn't make you liberal.

iwannarevolt

I like how you think in regards to this issue, because mainly you're a TRUE christian and we need more of them. Those people who assume that you're a bleeding heart liberal because of your stance on the issue are normally part of the ressurected know-nothing movement. I don't hate immigrants because of their status because they're still human beings and NO ONE can tell who's a legal immigrant or not just by looking at them or their skin color. I wouldn't call you a bleeding heart liberal anyhow. I would just say that it's refreshing to see someone here actually able to think for themselves and not let the mainstream media or the Fox Noise Channel do it for them.

shoshone

You need to understand that illegal aliens are NOT "immigrants".
Immigrants are foreign nationals who apply to "immigrate" to the USA throught the proper proceedure, before they enter the USA to live and work.

Foreign nationals who cross the border illegally, or overstay a visa are NOT "immigrants", they are criminals who are in violation of US law, and subject to arrest and deportation at any time.

Nobody hates "immigrants", and most Americans just want illegal aliens deported back to their own nations because, having come here illegally, they have proven that they are dishonest liars and thieves and unworthy of becoming a US citizen.

As a US native American indian, it is offensive to me when people like you make comments about non-hispanics all coming to the USA from europe.
Let me remind you, HISPANICS CAME HERE FROM EUROPE TOO, and mexicanos are NOT indigenous to the land of the USA, they are indingenous to the land which is SOUTH of the current border, not north of it.

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because there are some xenophobic individuals that have nothing better to do than to hate others.... it's their way of living and for twisted reason they are happy!!!

cool.panamania

Because they are unaware that liberals don't all share the same beliefs about everything.

JuanCarlosNoMore

Since you quote the Bible, have you read the part in the bible about directing all men to obey the laws of Man?
That means coming into our USA within legal immigration standards. Not illegally.

It's generally a good thing to be compassionate to others ...within reason. If your compassion leads to the death of your country or of your fellow citizens or the defeat of many social institutions that have always prevailed within the "laws of Man" I don't believe the Bible is suggesting that approach.

Ask yourself the question: When would I as a Christian be willing to stop the flow of illegal people into my land. Would it be when they for one reason or another kill your family, through drugs, crime or drunk driving? What if you or a friend of your's were severly injured by a drunk illegal immigrant. Couldn't walk or work or be a parent etc?

Seriously, we can't let everyone who needs something into our country unababted. We need to control who we let in and what they do when they get here at least for a while.

Your arguement is a compassionate one, but it lacks an understanding of reality. In all due respect you foster your focus on Christ. Look what happened to him.
It's maybe not right but it did happen and frankly, I don't want your compassion or even my own, leading me to my death.

Consider also, that more US citizens are KILLED daily in the USA by illegal immigrants than are killed in the war in Iraq. What could this mean to the families of those who lost their loved ones? How would you feel.

Answer these questions for yourself and see if you can see the appropriate measures are to limit and qualify those who we let into our land. To help as many as we can. But not to let so many invade that they stamp the life our of the rest of us ...and this include you and your family too.

Jan

As Christians,we are also not supposed to condone those who are breaking our laws. The Bible has many verses that speak of this also.
As an example,Leviticus 24:22 states.."You are to have the same law for the alien and the native born". The verses that come before this are the ones about an eye for an eye,a life for a life,etc.
Another is in Numbers 15:16..."The same laws and regulations will apply both to you and to the alien living among you".Does this not mean they are supposed to follow the laws of the land as are the citizens,no special exceptions are to be given?
On a different note,since we are quoting scripture, Leviticus 25:45 states.."You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you, and members of their clan born in your country,and they will become your property". Should we follow this one also? We don't,because it is against the laws of our government to own a slave.
I am also a Christian,my Dad was a Mennonite minister when I was growing up. I was taught that either you follow the entire Bible,or none of it.You can't just pick and chose the parts of the Bible that you agree with.
We have laws of God,but we also have laws of government. The laws of government aren't being followed when it comes to illegal immigration.

MOJADA

Because You are truely a Christian and you have the Love of Jesus in your heart. You are a very good person. Keep it up.

â™¥ Gloriaâ™¥

Because they don't know better. They are ignorant.

ansem7

Your quotes are all correct, but one of them, it escapes my mind, says that you MUST OBEY THE LAW OF THE LAND!

I respect your views, but you have to think of the consequences of illegal aliens using an economic relief system NOT INTENDED for THEM. They complain they don't get the same rights, but they are NOT CITIZENS.

And we are not all immigrants. I did NOT come here from another country. That right there is liberal stupidity. My parents didn't come from another country either. That is idiocy. That's like saying Native Americans are immigrants because they crossed a land bridge from asia. Think woman, think!

Now go drink a glass of shush.

Lakota

I don't care what political group you belong to. Does anyone? This must be a question to present your religious beliefs. If you apply religious beliefs to politics, that explains why your questions and answers are filled with logical fallacies.

Joy

you said no matter what their status that means there hear illegally so start hiding them and be a bleading heart, thats a LIBERAL

Lewis C

Who says you have to "HATE" immigrants or illegal immigrants in order to be pro Borders, Language, Culture, the fact you have a bleeding heart makes you a bleeding heart Liberal, for this type of social aptitude there can be no other explanation.
Illegals have committed felonies entering our country, they deserve nothing more than the rightful application of our sovereign laws.

Part of the problem is that they are being allowed (by the government and advocacy groups) to harvest first and keep the best, not the gleanings. They are given preferential treatment by law enforcement, because they are afraid of being sued or imprisoned for violating their 'rights'. How does this make us equal? The citizens are being treated like aliens and the aliens are being treated like (or better than) citizens. But there is a reason for that. May God help us all.

Don't get the way of cons and their hatred. You might lose a finger.

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