Why do people assume that Muslims are guests in the UK?
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Why do people assume that Muslims are guests in the UK?
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and not British citizens with the same right to live their life style (how they want as long as it harms no one.) as every other person in the UK.
Most British Muslims were born in the UK . Their life style has just as much rights as going to the pubs , and fish chips.. It is all part of British culture now.
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AG
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i got one word for you .... RACISM
They say Muslims are racists? Well, they should look around and see the truth... |
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Andy C
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Good point well made but not all Muslims like to class themselves as British and as such they don't identify themselves as being British. This causes friction in the towns as you in essence have 2 communities living alongside each other and there in lies the problem. |
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Danger Mouse
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I have to remove my motorcycle helmet to go into a shop or pay for petrol. Muslim women defend their right to wear a veil at all times and get away with it. Why do shop owners believe I am more likely to rob them than a Muslim woman is?
One rule for all.
That's all i will say. |
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Jonathan
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If I went around everywhere in a black balaclava and refused to take it off because it was my lifestyle choice, I'd soon be ostracised and probably arrested too. It's pretty selfish of these people who insist on wearing full face coverage when it clearly goes against all common sense (as in the case of the teaching assistant), it's clearly not necessary for their religion because so many in the same faith do not wear it.
Any ladies fancy going over to Iran and wearing hot pants and a bikini top in the street? You'd be stoned to death!
My point is that they do not make an effort to fit in, they act like guests themselves, so people think of them as such. You don't see most people complaining about people who perhaps have an Indian accent but do not wear the full face gear, because they've accepted this country and it's traditions as their home and made an effort to fit in. |
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claire
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It's not the fact that Muslims are here, it's the fact that a lot of them want to change the British way of life. We are told so many things are offensive to Muslims and we must stop doing them but why should we? The UK was not a Muslim country and it is understandable that a lot of people don't want it turned into one. We don't want our sky lines to be filled with Mosques. Muslims have their own councils, why not just try to integrate instead of demanding special rights like this? It's not the fact that we assume Muslims are guests, it's the fact that they segregate themselves. If a school has the same uniform rules for everyone, then 'everyone' should include Muslims. They should wear the same things as all the other children. Just very recently a Muslim school teacher has been suspended for wearing the veil whilst teaching in class and anyone with any sense can see that this will make it harder for the children to hear and see the teacher's facial expressions. If Muslims tried to fit in a bit more then they probably wouldn't be regarded as guests so much. Although a lot were born in the UK, there are still a lot who don't even speak English and make no effort to learn the language. If I went to a Muslim country, I wouldn't expect things to be changed for me and I would expect to have to learn the language. I certainly wouldn't demand translators and want English schools funded by the government (yes there are Muslim only, government funded schools in the UK). This hopefully give some answers to your question. |
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rucirius
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how sad for the British |
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Muhommed Dumbmuslim
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The Islamo-Facists in the UK (or Muslims, as you refer to them) are only guests as they bring hate, intolerance, and death to the UK same as they do to other countries. Look at Thailand, Dufar, Sudan, US, France, Spain, etc. Wake up and see what is happening. These 'muslims' are invading the free world to attempt to change it to their freedom stricken lands which they enjoy. They are guests as the smart brits will hopefully send them back to Iran soon. |
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archaeologia
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why don't u just get on with your life and stop bleating all the time,the thing is most of the people who are born here just get on with,all your lot seem to do is complain how you are always being put down,plenty of room in the middle east if you wish to return |
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Jon C
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Because relatively speaking their families have not invested as much into what made this country Great as some of the fine old British families who have built this country for generations. |
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origamimark
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I disagree.
The lifestyle that Muslims follow is definitely not the British way. If you want to be accepted, you must conform. If I went to a Muslim country, I would be expected to fit in. If I didn't, I could expect to be arrested. At least here you can express yourself freely, as you say, and have freedom of speech, etc, but you must always bear in mind that these are privileges, and not rights. If yoiu abuse them, they will be taken away one way or another. |
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FLOYD
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Guests, there immigrants and there not welcome |
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taxed till i die,
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If they are guests,i certainly did not invite them,so they must be gatecrashers |
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Karen
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Act like a guest,get treated like a guest!! I am British,and do not consider Islam/Muslims part of MY culture! In fact, I would rather it was not here at all!! You people assume/demand far too much. Perhaps thats the problem! |
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Simon D
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They are until they or their kids speak with a British accent, and support the national team even over their originating country(don't care which sport).
They must also be willing to fight in a war for Britain, or at the very least fight for no-one else. But lets leave that till the time comes.
It's not values, culture or lifestyle that Britain's fear losing. It's Britain itself. And we may need reassuring.
Staying in one community, not socialising enough to take on our accent, and supporting the Pakistani Cricket team when they play England doesn't reassure us.
For most it is not about Islam, race or values, it's about not participating.
The Muslim friends that I have socialise with me. |
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nikki
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yes your right most are born here, but there parents or there parents parents, had to arrive her as "guests" and some point! |
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Queenie-P
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The thing that irritates me with other cultures is ......
When they come to the UK and speak in their own language amoungst themselves. I honestly believe that if your coming from another country to live in UK you should at least have the curtosey to learn the language. My partner works in a place where he deals with a lot of various cultures - and 9 times out of 10 they have to put their children on the phone to translate the call as they cant be bothered to at least attempt to learn the language
I am not saying all muslims etc do this - so dont think I am putting everyone into a bracket. But - thats the one thing that grates me. As I think it does quite a few people |
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Clean heart
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good point Islam has no nationality Muslims are part of British society whether we like it or not what about the white man who converted to Islam where we want him to go. |
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EMA
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Muslims are the most contrdictory people I know!!!!
You want your own churches, dress sense, special rules when it suits yourselves and then to top it all say 'Oh we want to buy fish n chips' and anyway how would you get ye fish n chipy through the eye holes in ye veil!!!! |
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in reply to abu's comment. im sick of people playing the race card. if i said hitler was a w@@@@er would i be put down for being anti germanic? if i said oi baldy to a bald man would that be slapheadist? and as far as muslims are concerned, i dontr care if there white, brown or pink, human or alien, its the MINDSET of these 'people' that upsets me and others , there attitude, so now call ME racist!! |
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Ellie29uk
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I don't assume anything.... so don't make assumptions about that's how we all feel, or you are no better than the people that you are condemning.
My motto is live and let live, whatever creed or colour you are..... I love the ethnic diversity of this country and I hope it continues.
But I do think the Muslim community need to integrate like they did when I was growing up in South west london... these days it seems that they have shrunk back into their own communities, and I suspect its because they have been chased there by the media in this bloody country. |
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icarus62
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I think it's nice to have aspects of different cultures in the UK, as long as they don't expect the rest of the UK to adopt *their* culture. |
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a friend
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I dont think they are guests, I think they are vermin, they live like animals and are below rats in the food chain.
Enoch Powell. |
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john boy -1
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tut tut tut thought muslims could not drink beer |
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colin m
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if they didnt get the free health care that they abuse most of them wouldnt be born here they hate everything britain stands for i know that because they keep telling me .blowing up tubes is illegal going to the pub and eating fish and chipsis not |
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John T
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You are not guests. The word guest implies that you are welcome and you are most certainly not. If you were interested in being welcomed to the UK you would try to integrate but you dont. As soon as England has its first Nationalist government you will see how welcome as guests you are. |
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kbw
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Muslims are not just guests in this country.....they are Unwanted guests in this country!! It will remain that way until they try to integrate into our society and stop trying to force their way onto US! If we moved to a Muslim country we would be required to integrate and follow Your customs.............So Why Won't You Do That Here!!!!!! |
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Steve J H
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Maybe you have answered your own question - "Why do people assume that Muslims are guests in the UK? and not British citizens with the same right to live their life style (how they want as long as it harms no one.) as every other person in the UK."
As long as it harms no one? Well sadly it has and 7/7 is proof of that.
Muslims seem to want a complete change in the British way of life, a change to their islamic way. This is becoming apparrent in todays climate of troubles caused by these terrorists who are more than proud to claim the Muslim way.
I am still amazed about the Muslim protest in London earlier this year, about the Danish cartoons, where Muslims held banners claiming clearly that more terror was coming to Europe! And you want me to allow you to change Britian to an Islamic state???
Is it any wonder we have reservations about peaceful intentions and form an opinion that Muslims are dangerous?
I only react to what is actually happening in our society. It's one thing to debate the ethics and philosiphy of intergration and whats best for us all, than have people who actually create terror AND murder innocent members of the publics, people of all faiths for that matter! |
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AAP
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Not to me it isn't |
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skylolo
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a lot of muslims who lived in India actualy supported Pakistan during the war(Indo-Pak )and to make matters worse the bloody yanks gave them (pakis) fighter aircraft. |
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