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Why do they twist the subject by calling illegals "undocumented"???

I was an immigrant myself before becoming a citizen. While being a Resident Alien, if I had lost my Green Card I would be "an undocumented immigrant" but I would still be a legal one. Why isn't everybody loudly protesting against this (deliberate, I suspect) twisting of a subject by the so-called "immigrants' rights advocates"???


    




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"UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT: An "undocumented immigrant" is the same as an "illegal alien", and is a criminal under applicable U.S. laws."






http://www.adversity.net/Terms_Definitions/TERMS/Illegal-Undocumented.htm


James
It's just another example of political correctness. It sounds stupid when the pro-illegal crowd calls illegal immigrants undocumented migrants. It's the same thing as calling black people African-Americans.


Ahcho A
Undocumented is the PC version, (Pure Chit) version that is. It's what the illegals want to be called.


B.Kevorkian
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It's just spin, trying to paint your position in a positive life. It's like the way the abortion battle is between the 'pro life' and 'pro choice' camps, rather than the 'pro-death' and 'anti-choice' camps.


Ms.L.A.
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I guess they think it sounds nicer instead of the travesty it is. Legal immigrants are Americans, illegals are not!


DAR
They did studies and found that if you say 'immigrants' it is a more pro-illegal immigrant outcome (ignoring that most people don't think of ILLEGAL immigrants when someone says 'immigrants'.) They think 'undocumented' would be similarly neutral, but it is ridiculous.

Undocument is what a citizen born abroad is, if they don't file. They have the RIGHT to be here, just not the paperwork. Illegal immigrants have no right to be here, period.


slew
They are just reminding us we need to fix all the illegal immigrants situation of not having a document. My suggestion is to have a warrant made against all of them. Warrants are documents.


Gretl
Deflection. Trying to make the issue more palatable. PC. Like used cars are now pre-owned cars. Makes the cars sound better.


Daniel F
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The correct usage is undocumented, plain and simple!


KRIS
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it makes them sound more presentable and acceptable.


GoYankees&Giants!
If the pro-illegals use the term "illegal", they no longer have an argument, therefore, they use the softer, more PC term to defend their case.

The illegals are illegal no matter what they want to call them: undocumented, migrant workers, etc.


Sexy Mama
Main Entry: un·doc·u·ment·ed
Pronunciation: ən-ˈdä-kyə-ˌmen-təd
Function: adjective
Date: 1867
: not documented: as a: not supported by documentary evidence <undocumented expenditures> b: lacking documents required for legal immigration or residence <undocumented workers>


errrrgh!
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You can thank the politically correct movement of the 1990's. That's about the time they stopped calling them illegal aliens.


Sweetharttt
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It is just a nicer and smoother way to refer to the Criminal Illegal Aliens that are invading our country.


peanuthead
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It just "sounds" so much nicer than the truth. You don't have to scream in the streets to make your views known. I mean all they're doing is talking to themselves because no-one knows what the heck they're saying except being called "racist" and LaRaza. They have lost more supporters than gained them. There are those of us who are fighting for the rights of legal immigrants because that's the place reform is needed......not a blanket amnesty for people who have no respect for our laws.


The Red Angel
because "undocumented" is a more precise word......human actions are illegal human beings are not

seriously Ive said it before and ill say it again don't antis own English dictionaries???

2ND most misused word,,,,racist

racist = only those Antis that hate based on RACE!!!


antis will try to hide and say we call ALL antis racist!! not so
some are not racist just wrong on the issue....hahaha j/k j/k

steedy voter.. OK, i understand how you feel about the law being broken, but the use of "illegal" is viewed by some as an issue unto itself not because of immigration but because it dehumanizes the person ...it is an attempt to make people's minds easier to shift since its not a person but an "illegal" its manipulation!!!........and that's why (ask any English or Philosophy or Logic professor, even those on your side, Ive had one that was) and they ll admit for Logic and correct reasoning's sake it is necessary to use the MOST PRECISE words.......so then, being that illegal is referent to a laws (concept) being broken, the action ITSELF is illegal, not the person...

it could be said ...that person CAME illegally....but NOT that person IS illegal


steddy voter
Nice to hear the opinions of someone who has legally immigrated and naturalized. Thank you.

Anyhow, I don't care what they call it, the ones who have not followed our immigration laws need to return to their home country. All the pc names don't change the decisions they've made, or the laws they've disregarded.

Edit: To Red Angel - I understand your point, however I personally do not see it as a dehuminization. The word illegal is used to modify the word alien, not the person. Illegal, as defined in the Merriam-webster dictionary, is "not according to or authorized by law". So, I think it is an accurate term, defining their alien status - as not authorized by law. It is not meant as a derrogatory thing. While you may feel that the term undocumented is more correct, that does not mean that using illegal to modify alien is incorrect.

And, when a person uses "illegals" by itself, its just a shortened term, no different that when people use the term "anti's". A better word choice for "anti's", to be as close to pure definition as possible, would be "pro-law citizens".

Sorry - love a good debate... I had to bite. Its all good.


LeighAnn D
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Who's twisting the subject? They are the same thing, so nobody is twisting anything.


Amanda h
I use it because I work for a very PC social service organization, and, truthfully, it is an accurate word.

un·doc·u·ment·ed /ʌnˈdɒkyəˌmɛntɪd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uhn-dok-yuh-men-tid] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1.lacking documentation or authentication.
2.lacking proper immigration or working papers.
[Origin: 1880–85; un-1 + documented]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/undocumented

m·mi·grant /ˈɪmɪgrənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-i-gruhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
2.an organism found in a new habitat.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immigrant

The words are correct. You may not want people to see them as humans, so, you advocate for usage of illegal aliens.

But, truthfully, you say potato I say potato. The words used aren't really the issue. If you focus on something as small as this, you can lose sight of the greater picture.

MSLA- I see you changed from fed up to Fuwi---- hmmm- fed up with Illegals? It made me laugh. Sounds like you are spitting out some food. Fuwi!


Yoda
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Red Angel

Looks like you need a dictionary as well. An illegal alien is NOT a race.
If you think it is, either you don't know the definition or you are apparently attempting to redefine the word so you can use the "racist" term where it doesn't apply.


leeyo32
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We must be PC.... illegals is offensive... HAHAHAHAHA





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